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As of so far, nobody is able to point and say - here's how it was done, in such a way as to satisfy all the information."

Apart from severe damage and intense fire followed by natural collaps ...

Especially when the energy sink for "pulverization" isn't actually going to 60 microns, or costs 1.5 kWh/t.

For instance, the 1.5 kWh number quoted in that paper is quoting the power de ...

Well, 850 billion verseus 400 billion is only a factor of 2. I divded by 100 in my calculation, so it doesn't really change much. That "error" is well within the noise. Even if I propagate ...

Where in those links does it explain the "well understood process" of the falling friction of buildings collapsing CD style resulting in basements swimming with molten steel 8 weeks post ...

Not at all. The reasoning surely is 'this event in it's initial stages has many characteristics of a pyroclastic flow. What could cause that'?'

It seems that you're construction seeks to work ...

I know this is getting repetetive, but as far as I am aware, nobody has claimed that every single scrap of concrete was powderised.

Howvever I think I'm fairly safe in asserting that nowhere that a ...

I know this is getting repetetive, but as far as I am aware, nobody has claimed that every single scrap of concrete was powderised.

Howvever I think I'm fairly safe in asserting that nowhere that a ...

Hoffman's paper has several serious flaws:

Part I of my analysis
all of the concrete was pulverized to 60 microns. On Hoffman's reference Russell states
The energy required to crush rock is rou ...

Utter debunking of KT's photo analysis found here: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=61633&highlight=killtown

Yes, exaggerate the points we make to the point of ridiculousness. I hate having to get into pedantic treatises on minute nuances of meaning, but it may be the only way to bull through these black-n-w ...

"FDNY fire fighters remain under a gag order (Rodriguezvs-1.Bush.pdf, p. 10) to not discuss the explosions they heard, felt and saw. FAA personnel are also under a 9/11 gag order.
Even the 9/ ...

...
However, demonstrating the strong evidence of an official cover up and the urgent need for impartial re-investigation becomes more likely as the political climate shifts.
(50% believe the 911 i ...

Whew, good thing the majority of it was > 60 microns in size.

Settling this debate is pretty simple. go and read the testimony of the firefighters who were there for hours, saw the fires and gaping hole in #7, and fully expected it it to come down.

This is an ...

This paper http://www.jnani.org/mrking/writings/911/king911.htm addresses Jones' claims of nano-thermite.

Let me see if I understand where you are coming from, and please, correct me if I am mistaken; I don't want to inadvertantly start setting up a strawman argument.

You are grounding your arguments/c ...

Let me see if I understand where you are coming from, and please, correct me if I am mistaken; I don't want to inadvertantly start setting up a strawman argument.

You are grounding your arguments/c ...

http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

Very interesting that a high ranking FBI official would make the statement that they have no evidence c ...

Seriously? Surely they can come up with better than that!
If it really was a 'pressure wave' then wouldn't it have occured throughout the floor and not in one concentrated place?

It would seem th ...

The first thing investigators do is look for the PEOPLE with the motive. Then they compare these people against the initial evidence and come up with a suspect list.

If there's no corroborating ...

Seriously? Surely they can come up with better than that!
If it really was a 'pressure wave' then wouldn't it have occured throughout the floor and not in one concentrated place?

It would seem th ...

Read my post in the PNAC topic.

I'm through listening to your apologist bulls**t.

And yet we're perfectly willing to discuss your Islamic terrorist apologist BS... go figure.

See, if you actu ...

Read my post in the PNAC topic.

I'm through listening to your apologist bulls**t.

And yet we're perfectly willing to discuss your Islamic terrorist apologist BS... go figure.

If you'd like a hack job explanation then try this;

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html

Its pathetic i know, but hey, we're in critics corner!

Perhaps you could provide somethi ...

Oh the Al Qaeda shills bit:

Is that how rational skeptics respond to percieved irrational comments? by making their own irrational comments?

I care about truth: its essential for justice: and wi ...

Dissenting voices is not the problem: after all SoG and CTS started threads, had debate, and it didnt disrupt the forum

the issue seems to me to be blatent thread hijacking with no regard to the su ...

Since it seems clear that rather than have an evidence based discussion you would rather limit/silence dissent I'll leave you to your little Osama apologist/9-11 denier forum. If, however, you want t ...

I would disagree with that assessment. Consider the following:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53102
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=57424
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php? ...

The official conspiracy theory cannot be sustained through discussion of the facts.

I would disagree with that assessment. Consider the following:
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53102 ...

Ally,

Your time is never wasted. It just saves the rest of us the bother.

I agree with you that with most of these people it is not a matter of honest disagreement. They are rotten people ...

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Topic: Improbable Collapse
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 746 Views: 196089	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:35 pm Subject: Improbable Collapse
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 746 Views: 196089	As of so far, nobody is able to point and say - here's how it was done, in such a way as to satisfy all the information." Apart from severe damage and intense fire followed by natural collaps ...
Topic: Improbable Collapse
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 746 Views: 196089	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:38 pm Subject: Improbable Collapse
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 746 Views: 196089	Especially when the energy sink for "pulverization" isn't actually going to 60 microns, or costs 1.5 kWh/t. For instance, the 1.5 kWh number quoted in that paper is quoting the power de ...
Topic: Improbable Collapse
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 746 Views: 196089	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:31 pm Subject: Improbable Collapse
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 746 Views: 196089	Well, 850 billion verseus 400 billion is only a factor of 2. I divded by 100 in my calculation, so it doesn't really change much. That "error" is well within the noise. Even if I propagate ...
Topic: Improbable Collapse
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 746 Views: 196089	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:24 pm Subject: Improbable Collapse
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 746 Views: 196089	Where in those links does it explain the "well understood process" of the falling friction of buildings collapsing CD style resulting in basements swimming with molten steel 8 weeks post ...
Topic: The S Tower's amazing pyroclastic flow ...
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 49 Views: 13028	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:49 pm Subject: The S Tower's amazing pyroclastic flow ...
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 49 Views: 13028	Not at all. The reasoning surely is 'this event in it's initial stages has many characteristics of a pyroclastic flow. What could cause that'?' It seems that you're construction seeks to work ...
Topic: The question for chek
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 61 Views: 14769	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:12 pm Subject: The question for chek
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 61 Views: 14769	I know this is getting repetetive, but as far as I am aware, nobody has claimed that every single scrap of concrete was powderised. Howvever I think I'm fairly safe in asserting that nowhere that a ...
Topic: The question for chek
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 61 Views: 14769	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 7:09 pm Subject: The question for chek
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 61 Views: 14769	I know this is getting repetetive, but as far as I am aware, nobody has claimed that every single scrap of concrete was powderised. Howvever I think I'm fairly safe in asserting that nowhere that a ...
Topic: The question for chek
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 61 Views: 14769	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 5:13 pm Subject: Hoffman's paper has several serious flaws
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 61 Views: 14769	Hoffman's paper has several serious flaws: Part I of my analysis all of the concrete was pulverized to 60 microns. On Hoffman's reference Russell states The energy required to crush rock is rou ...
Topic: Is Lisa Jefferson lying?
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 46 Views: 12163	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:30 pm Subject: Is Lisa Jefferson lying?
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 46 Views: 12163	Utter debunking of KT's photo analysis found here: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=61633&highlight=killtown
Topic: More freefall, with added concrete and drywall dust
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 40 Views: 11249	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:33 pm Subject: More freefall, with added concrete and drywall dust
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 40 Views: 11249	Yes, exaggerate the points we make to the point of ridiculousness. I hate having to get into pedantic treatises on minute nuances of meaning, but it may be the only way to bull through these black-n-w ...
Topic: Wiring WTC7 for demolition
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 55 Views: 17580	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:43 pm Subject: Wiring WTC7 for demolition
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 55 Views: 17580	"FDNY fire fighters remain under a gag order (Rodriguezvs-1.Bush.pdf, p. 10) to not discuss the explosions they heard, felt and saw. FAA personnel are also under a 9/11 gag order. Even the 9/ ...
Topic: Thermite
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 157 Views: 58723	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:06 pm Subject: Thermite
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 157 Views: 58723	... However, demonstrating the strong evidence of an official cover up and the urgent need for impartial re-investigation becomes more likely as the political climate shifts. (50% believe the 911 i ...
Topic: More freefall, with added concrete and drywall dust
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 40 Views: 11249	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:01 pm Subject: More freefall, with added concrete and drywall dust
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 40 Views: 11249	Whew, good thing the majority of it was > 60 microns in size.
Topic: Wiring WTC7 for demolition
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 55 Views: 17580	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:02 pm Subject: Wiring WTC7 for demolition
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 55 Views: 17580	Settling this debate is pretty simple. go and read the testimony of the firefighters who were there for hours, saw the fires and gaping hole in #7, and fully expected it it to come down. This is an ...
Topic: Freefall?
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 253 Views: 75219	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 3:55 pm Subject: Freefall?
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 253 Views: 75219	This paper http://www.jnani.org/mrking/writings/911/king911.htm addresses Jones' claims of nano-thermite.
Topic: The PNAC Document
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 53 Views: 31227	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:24 pm Subject: The PNAC Document
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 53 Views: 31227	Let me see if I understand where you are coming from, and please, correct me if I am mistaken; I don't want to inadvertantly start setting up a strawman argument. You are grounding your arguments/c ...
Topic: The PNAC Document
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 53 Views: 31227	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:00 pm Subject: The PNAC Document
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 53 Views: 31227	Let me see if I understand where you are coming from, and please, correct me if I am mistaken; I don't want to inadvertantly start setting up a strawman argument. You are grounding your arguments/c ...
Topic: FBI: No evidence linking Osama Bin Laden to 9/11 (!)
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 40 Views: 137238	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:56 pm Subject: Re: FBI - "No evidence linking BL to 911"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 40 Views: 137238	http://www.teamliberty.net/id267.html http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm Very interesting that a high ranking FBI official would make the statement that they have no evidence c ...
Topic: Video Clips
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 31 Views: 22760	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:42 pm Subject: Video Clips
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 31 Views: 22760	Seriously? Surely they can come up with better than that! If it really was a 'pressure wave' then wouldn't it have occured throughout the floor and not in one concentrated place? It would seem th ...
Topic: The PNAC Document
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 53 Views: 31227	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:40 pm Subject: The PNAC Document
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 53 Views: 31227	The first thing investigators do is look for the PEOPLE with the motive. Then they compare these people against the initial evidence and come up with a suspect list. If there's no corroborating ...
Topic: Video Clips
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 31 Views: 22760	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:18 pm Subject: Video Clips
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 31 Views: 22760	Seriously? Surely they can come up with better than that! If it really was a 'pressure wave' then wouldn't it have occured throughout the floor and not in one concentrated place? It would seem th ...
Topic: Video Clips
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 31 Views: 22760	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:10 pm Subject: Video Clips
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 31 Views: 22760	Read my post in the PNAC topic. I'm through listening to your apologist bulls**t. And yet we're perfectly willing to discuss your Islamic terrorist apologist BS... go figure. See, if you actu ...
Topic: Video Clips
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 31 Views: 22760	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:27 pm Subject: Video Clips
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 31 Views: 22760	Read my post in the PNAC topic. I'm through listening to your apologist bulls**t. And yet we're perfectly willing to discuss your Islamic terrorist apologist BS... go figure.
Topic: In search of an explanation of molten metal in the rubble
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 12 Views: 42640	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:38 pm Subject: In search of an explanation of molten metal in the rubble
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 12 Views: 42640	If you'd like a hack job explanation then try this; http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_molten_steel.html Its pathetic i know, but hey, we're in critics corner! Perhaps you could provide somethi ...
Topic: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:45 pm Subject: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Oh the Al Qaeda shills bit: Is that how rational skeptics respond to percieved irrational comments? by making their own irrational comments? I care about truth: its essential for justice: and wi ...
Topic: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:23 pm Subject: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Dissenting voices is not the problem: after all SoG and CTS started threads, had debate, and it didnt disrupt the forum the issue seems to me to be blatent thread hijacking with no regard to the su ...
Topic: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:43 pm Subject: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Since it seems clear that rather than have an evidence based discussion you would rather limit/silence dissent I'll leave you to your little Osama apologist/9-11 denier forum. If, however, you want t ...
Topic: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 10:20 am Subject: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	I would disagree with that assessment. Consider the following: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53102 http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=57424 http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php? ...
Topic: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:09 am Subject: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	The official conspiracy theory cannot be sustained through discussion of the facts. I would disagree with that assessment. Consider the following: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=53102 ...
Topic: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:03 pm Subject: Split from "Jon Ronson on CNN"
Arkan_Wolfshade Replies: 168 Views: 104245	Ally, Your time is never wasted. It just saves the rest of us the bother. I agree with you that with most of these people it is not a matter of honest disagreement. They are rotten people ...