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maybe you would like to explain and demonstrate what should of happened to the plane and towers? it seems nobody else is willing to back up why they think im wrong. yes the part of the crash where t ...

I´m not aware of anything shot from inside the building. Are you aware of anything that shows or reports a crash as we know it, with pieces of the plane breaking off and falling down the outside of t ...

OK in return for my humouring you (on another thread) about how you don't know what a plane crash is and don't know how to use Google, please can you humour me a bit. I arrived too late on the scene ...

Now on to your next claim that it "entered intact" - where exactly is the evidence that this happened at all?

Obviously there is no evidence that the plane entered WTC2 intact, since the ...

Madge, Don’t you remember the NYC small plane crash? That entered the building: Maybe that building didn’t have a steel frame? I don’t know. But we DO that this one did – The Empire States Building:
...

very few people in the hologram etc camp????

ok maybe your right ive not heard much from there is recent months,
however when there was numerous people in that camp they all swore blind they wer ...

OK, let’s pretend (just for a moment) that marky 54 doesn’t know what happens in plane crashes, assumed planes were indestructible, has never thought about this before, has never looked at the interne ...

However correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Dr Woods is claiming that she can prove exactly what happened either. As I understand it she is challenging the relevent authorities to explain awa ...

I think 'crash' focuses on the moving object doing the crashing, and 'impact' on the thing hit. We usually refer to plane crashes, probably implying the commonly-held knowledge that a plane generally ...

Let's take the molecular dissociating soil damping for just one instance.

In my town (Anytown, County Down) paving stones and concrete roads are always getting cracked by heavy traffic. The skin of ...

You say NPT wouldn't be a problem if people within the movement didn't "unneccesarily" refute it. Well this movement is just a cross section of society, it is refuted because it is not belie ...

We're not just talking about how the media has and will continue to use the NPT against the Truth Campaign, we need to think how it impacts on the general public…. We should ….. focus most of our ener ...

Why do you consider it to be so "wacky" that the most common cause of building's complete destruction, pre-9/11, should be put on the table as a theory for the reason the buildings collapsed ...

Madge deflected the questions by trying to bring the conversation into whether or not steel beams were sliced.

Cheeky! It was you Stefan who first introduced the 'slicing' question as a dig at NPT ...

Ian, I appreciate the line that you tread, but I honestly cannot see how you believe No Planes Theory to be so much more out-there than Controlled-Demolition Theory that it’s in a different league for ...

Madge,

1. That's a drawing, not a photo.

2. You aren't answering my question.

I want you to explain to me how a bomb caused this damage.

1. That's a diagram that supposedly shows the damag ...

Nice example - a rare instance of 'no planes' getting on air, and the TV interviewer took it all in his stride. To him it was no nuttier than any other aspect of the nutty conspiracy story (and he w ...

Yup, it's thermite, thermite, thermite all the way for me. See those big clouds? Thermite. That dirt in the firetruck? Thermite. Well either that or it's thermate. One or the other. Now don't be ...

Regarding the last point, have any physicists or engineers produced any papers proving that it's impossible for the plane/planes to have crashed into the building/buildings as it/they appeared to?...I ...

So that's it, is it? The New Statesman? And did the article kind of say, "Well we thought he had a point about elements in US deliberately blowing up the towers and killing 3,000 of their own cit ...

As to the plane slicing through steel - what would you call the diagonal cuts in the steel columns which make up the wingtip shape?

Those aren't steel- that's aluminium cladding, there to make the ...

Regards my question about what is Steve Jones’ line on crash physics - I can’t imagine a scientist would argue that a plane would be shredded if it was standing upright and one of the twin towers was ...

This is the lie that Holmgren accuses Wood of: “Morgan Reynolds and Judy Wood self righteously attack the dishonest fraudulent science of Steven Jones, and of NIST, at the same time as telling us that ...

I can't be arsed to look for the footage right now, but in the clips I've seen I'm sure Bush says he was waiting to go into the classroom, and the TV was obviously on, and he saw the plane hit the tow ...

So we can watch TV footage of the destruction of the towers and extrapolate from that and somehow still arrive at certainty, yet we can't watch TV footage of the alleged 'plane crash' and extrapolate ...

he's saying to the public "hey I saw the same footage as you and i thought it was an accident like you did".

The problem is, Bush couldn't have seen the same footage as everyone else, as ...

Oh dear, Craig W - I know how disappointing and baffling it is when your question doesn’t seem to be addressed straight away or perhaps even noticed. I’ve asked many times for just a single example o ...

If you're interested in the issues rather than personal attacks, you can now also listen to Peggy Carter talking about TV fakery on Fetzer's programme.

Am just downloading it myself, hope it works ...

Would this be a fair and simple statement of position on the 9/11 videographic bone of contention ?

The large Boeing Camp could now be correctly termed TV Huggers ?

Comments please.

A late co ...

I can see some sense in the Meyssan/Tarpley theory you cite. But the idea that Bush lied about the first hit twice on camera simply to support the planes theory doesn't make any sense.

He and his ...

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Topic: Why hasn't the media used NPT to discredit us?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:35 pm Subject: Fruit-looping
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	maybe you would like to explain and demonstrate what should of happened to the plane and towers? it seems nobody else is willing to back up why they think im wrong. yes the part of the crash where t ...
Topic: Second hit footage showing no plane
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:44 pm Subject: In or out?
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	I´m not aware of anything shot from inside the building. Are you aware of anything that shows or reports a crash as we know it, with pieces of the plane breaking off and falling down the outside of t ...
Topic: Why hasn't the media used NPT to discredit us?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:30 pm Subject: Re: Equally whacky
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	OK in return for my humouring you (on another thread) about how you don't know what a plane crash is and don't know how to use Google, please can you humour me a bit. I arrived too late on the scene ...
Topic: Second hit footage showing no plane
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 6:21 pm Subject: No evidence for plane
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Now on to your next claim that it "entered intact" - where exactly is the evidence that this happened at all? Obviously there is no evidence that the plane entered WTC2 intact, since the ...
Topic: Second hit footage showing no plane
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:17 pm Subject: Planes can damage buildings
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Madge, Don’t you remember the NYC small plane crash? That entered the building: Maybe that building didn’t have a steel frame? I don’t know. But we DO that this one did – The Empire States Building: ...
Topic: Why hasn't the media used NPT to discredit us?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:22 pm Subject: Re: Equally whacky
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	very few people in the hologram etc camp???? ok maybe your right ive not heard much from there is recent months, however when there was numerous people in that camp they all swore blind they wer ...
Topic: Second hit footage showing no plane
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:15 pm Subject: What's a plane crash?
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	OK, let’s pretend (just for a moment) that marky 54 doesn’t know what happens in plane crashes, assumed planes were indestructible, has never thought about this before, has never looked at the interne ...
Topic: Prof Wood discusses evidence of Molecular Dissociation @ WTC
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 8442	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:38 pm Subject: Links
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 8442	However correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe Dr Woods is claiming that she can prove exactly what happened either. As I understand it she is challenging the relevent authorities to explain awa ...
Topic: Second hit footage showing no plane
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:07 pm Subject: Crash vs impact
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	I think 'crash' focuses on the moving object doing the crashing, and 'impact' on the thing hit. We usually refer to plane crashes, probably implying the commonly-held knowledge that a plane generally ...
Topic: Prof Wood discusses evidence of Molecular Dissociation @ WTC
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 8442	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:11 am Subject: Dumpers did it
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 8442	Let's take the molecular dissociating soil damping for just one instance. In my town (Anytown, County Down) paving stones and concrete roads are always getting cracked by heavy traffic. The skin of ...
Topic: Second hit footage showing no plane
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:57 am Subject: Re: Slicing again
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	You say NPT wouldn't be a problem if people within the movement didn't "unneccesarily" refute it. Well this movement is just a cross section of society, it is refuted because it is not belie ...
Topic: Why hasn't the media used NPT to discredit us?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:31 am Subject: Don't mention the planes
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	We're not just talking about how the media has and will continue to use the NPT against the Truth Campaign, we need to think how it impacts on the general public…. We should ….. focus most of our ener ...
Topic: Why hasn't the media used NPT to discredit us?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 6:21 am Subject: Truth or avoidance?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Why do you consider it to be so "wacky" that the most common cause of building's complete destruction, pre-9/11, should be put on the table as a theory for the reason the buildings collapsed ...
Topic: Second hit footage showing no plane
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 4:22 pm Subject: Slicing again
MadgeB Replies: 139 Views: 36864	Madge deflected the questions by trying to bring the conversation into whether or not steel beams were sliced. Cheeky! It was you Stefan who first introduced the 'slicing' question as a dig at NPT ...
Topic: Why hasn't the media used NPT to discredit us?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 3:42 pm Subject: Equally whacky
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Ian, I appreciate the line that you tread, but I honestly cannot see how you believe No Planes Theory to be so much more out-there than Controlled-Demolition Theory that it’s in a different league for ...
Topic: The 9/11 Liars Club
MadgeB Replies: 32 Views: 13347	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:21 pm Subject: Bombs, missiles, or?
MadgeB Replies: 32 Views: 13347	Madge, 1. That's a drawing, not a photo. 2. You aren't answering my question. I want you to explain to me how a bomb caused this damage. 1. That's a diagram that supposedly shows the damag ...
Topic: Why hasn't the media used NPT to discredit us?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 9:05 pm Subject: Morgan Reynolds clip
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Nice example - a rare instance of 'no planes' getting on air, and the TV interviewer took it all in his stride. To him it was no nuttier than any other aspect of the nutty conspiracy story (and he w ...
Topic: Prof Wood discusses evidence of Molecular Dissociation @ WTC
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 8442	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 8:42 pm Subject: Nothing to see here (as usual)
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 8442	Yup, it's thermite, thermite, thermite all the way for me. See those big clouds? Thermite. That dirt in the firetruck? Thermite. Well either that or it's thermate. One or the other. Now don't be ...
Topic: An over-view of NPT and TV Fakery
MadgeB Replies: 31 Views: 12915	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:59 pm Subject: An over-view of NPT and TV Fakery
MadgeB Replies: 31 Views: 12915	Regarding the last point, have any physicists or engineers produced any papers proving that it's impossible for the plane/planes to have crashed into the building/buildings as it/they appeared to?...I ...
Topic: Why hasn't the media used NPT to discredit us?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 9:27 pm Subject: Why hasn't the media used NPT to discredit us?
MadgeB Replies: 75 Views: 26308	So that's it, is it? The New Statesman? And did the article kind of say, "Well we thought he had a point about elements in US deliberately blowing up the towers and killing 3,000 of their own cit ...
Topic: The 9/11 Liars Club
MadgeB Replies: 32 Views: 13347	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 6:40 pm Subject: Re: Crash physics
MadgeB Replies: 32 Views: 13347	As to the plane slicing through steel - what would you call the diagonal cuts in the steel columns which make up the wingtip shape? Those aren't steel- that's aluminium cladding, there to make the ...
Topic: The 9/11 Liars Club
MadgeB Replies: 32 Views: 13347	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 10:17 am Subject: Crash physics
MadgeB Replies: 32 Views: 13347	Regards my question about what is Steve Jones’ line on crash physics - I can’t imagine a scientist would argue that a plane would be shredded if it was standing upright and one of the twin towers was ...
Topic: The 9/11 Liars Club
MadgeB Replies: 32 Views: 13347	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 12:35 pm Subject: Fraudulent science
MadgeB Replies: 32 Views: 13347	This is the lie that Holmgren accuses Wood of: “Morgan Reynolds and Judy Wood self righteously attack the dishonest fraudulent science of Steven Jones, and of NIST, at the same time as telling us that ...
Topic: This is excellent - a film for advanced students of 911
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 10921	Forum: Covid Plandemic, 9/11 & 7/7 Truth News Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:50 am Subject: This is excellent - a film for advanced students of 911
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 10921	I can't be arsed to look for the footage right now, but in the clips I've seen I'm sure Bush says he was waiting to go into the classroom, and the TV was obviously on, and he saw the plane hit the tow ...
Topic: Will those who believe in Hi-jackers please say why?
MadgeB Replies: 25 Views: 13326	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sun May 20, 2007 11:39 am Subject: No hijackers, no planes
MadgeB Replies: 25 Views: 13326	So we can watch TV footage of the destruction of the towers and extrapolate from that and somehow still arrive at certainty, yet we can't watch TV footage of the alleged 'plane crash' and extrapolate ...
Topic: This is excellent - a film for advanced students of 911
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 10921	Forum: Covid Plandemic, 9/11 & 7/7 Truth News Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:36 am Subject: This is excellent - a film for advanced students of 911
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 10921	he's saying to the public "hey I saw the same footage as you and i thought it was an accident like you did". The problem is, Bush couldn't have seen the same footage as everyone else, as ...
Topic: An over-view of NPT and TV Fakery
MadgeB Replies: 31 Views: 12915	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:03 am Subject: An over-view of NPT and TV Fakery
MadgeB Replies: 31 Views: 12915	Oh dear, Craig W - I know how disappointing and baffling it is when your question doesn’t seem to be addressed straight away or perhaps even noticed. I’ve asked many times for just a single example o ...
Topic: Rosalee Grable discusses WTC impacts with Jim Fetzer
MadgeB Replies: 5 Views: 1664	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:06 pm Subject: Peggy Carter on Fetzer show
MadgeB Replies: 5 Views: 1664	If you're interested in the issues rather than personal attacks, you can now also listen to Peggy Carter talking about TV fakery on Fetzer's programme. Am just downloading it myself, hope it works ...
Topic: MoD White Paper on Manipulating the Media
MadgeB Replies: 22 Views: 5792	Forum: 9/11 & 7/7 Truth Controversies Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:48 pm Subject: Teletubbies
MadgeB Replies: 22 Views: 5792	Would this be a fair and simple statement of position on the 9/11 videographic bone of contention ? The large Boeing Camp could now be correctly termed TV Huggers ? Comments please. A late co ...
Topic: This is excellent - a film for advanced students of 911
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 10921	Forum: Covid Plandemic, 9/11 & 7/7 Truth News Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:27 pm Subject: Re: Deliberate self-incrimination
MadgeB Replies: 29 Views: 10921	I can see some sense in the Meyssan/Tarpley theory you cite. But the idea that Bush lied about the first hit twice on camera simply to support the planes theory doesn't make any sense. He and his ...