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IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB. Disagreements on some of the minor details about how it was carried out are beside the point.Minor details, like to total lack of any coherent theory for what happened on 9/11? S ...

Who cares, this forum and the whole 911 truth movement has fizzled into nothing anyway.

Let them have their squibs and chemtrails and goblins or whatever the hell else they believe in.

So...who to believe? An ATC with 11 years on the job experience and a commendation received for actually handling a hijacking, or some anonymous evidence free chancer on t'internet calling himself 'Wi ...

I thought I'd got used to the inadequacy of your comprehension skills, but you continue to surprise pepik. And the wiki is like, the cliff notes version.Right, so this is the usual preface where you p ...

So Chek I guess it ends here then? You have no interest in Mathias Rust landing a plane in Red Square because you know it won't support your conspiracy theories. You make up some bs and when tha ...

He is saying Pearl Harbour was LIHOP right?

No pepik, I understand the young pilot used a light aircraft with a negligible radar return flown at tree top height under the coverage of the radar system. Hmmm... any chance you just made that up on ...

Chek, do you think they used thermite to land the plane in Red Square? Cui bono! Although i've never actually seen video of the plane landing...

Can someone please estimate what the odds are of some loon [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust/]landing a Cessna in Red Square in the middle of the Cold War?

That's pretty lame even by your low standards - here's some advice, buy it, read it and then come back here and tell us what you know.I don't think so KP. Remember, you're supposed to be pretending th ...

My point is not that Rumsfeld's comments don't support 911 conspiracy theories, it is that they contradict them. They would have to be fake comments for the conspiracy theories to be true. So I don't ...

Have any 9/11 truthers read the book or followed the press surrounding the new release on the 'Firefight' book about the Pentagon aftermath?

I don't know why the book has been so fully ignored by t ...

Very true.

Both cases could almost be called "attempted deception" of the public on the part of the government, don't you agree? Conspiracy, even.

What do you think the consequences we ...

What in tarnation are you talking about pepik?
They didn't 'forget' anything - they lied and fabricated 'evidence' to implicate Iraq and the long planned invasion went ahead.Were you institutionalise ...

Come now pepik - you're surely not so dim as to think that everybody here has forgotten such recent history already.
Of course the link was a fraud, but that wasn't clearly established until 2004 - a ...

To anyone who supports the official narrative of events I'd simply point out that the US Defence Secretary on the afternoon of 9/11 was, without a shred of evidence, seeking to invent a conspiracy the ...

Repeating myself again, Pepik cannot or will not think for himself - please don't ask him to do so.The fact that I don't take Willie Nelson's opinion on civil engineering means I can't think for mysel ...

What am I to make of singer Willie Nelson saying this:

What am I to make of what actor Martin Sheen has said?What am I to make of someone that goes to Willie Nelson and Martin Sheen to solve engine ...

The fact that someone who has been in the troof movement three years could paste such utter trash is quite surprising. Its the sort of thing someone who's been into troof for two weeks would fall for.

On the contrary pepik - that's how you maintain your view there's nothing untoward. By ignoring the fact that even so the building fell through itself in the almost freefall time of 6.5 seconds with n ...

Not at all. If you read - and more importantly comprehend Gordon Ross' work - it becomes clear that the trick to destroying the Towers was to dissociate the inner core from the outer shell. Just as th ...

If the official story WAS false I still think it is a waste of time pursuing it at this stage, because the movement has been unable to prove it to a sufficient degree to persuage the mainstream. Now t ...

Ah pepik, is there no end to your rapier-like intellect?
I of course meant near freefall (5.98 seconds) against the observed fall time 6.5 seconds. But fair play, you got me that time. Enjoy!Right, i ...

a freefall speed (+/- 0.5 seconds) symmetric collapseAsk the truther to provide the best of the best... and hilarity ensues. Its a canard fest! Plus or minus 0.5 seconds? So apparently faster than fr ...

Oh i'm just asking questions.

The only way the crime would be alleged is if there was any doubt the war happened - is that your claim? Are you an Iraq War TV Fakery proponent? Do you believe “Shock and Awe” was computer genera ...

Sorry i was distracted by the "blonde dames drinken" video.

Anyway, whatever this video shows, does it prove that the cab wasn't hit by a light pole? Because otherwise we have ABSOLUTE PR ...

Pepik - you're a funny guy.Thanks, I try.
I don't think Mr Pilger is into "hatred" of the USA and Israel as opposed to the policies implemented by their governments.I can tell the differenc ...

It would be nice if someone could answer the actual question at the start of the thread.

I'd be interested to know if any of you guys have any particular feelings about a point where you could poss ...

John Pilger is barely evolved communist propaganda merchant who makes a living spreading hatred of the USA and Israel, and the west and capitalism in general. He makes Chomsky look honest and objectiv ...

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Topic: Truthers' Trouble with Evidence
pepik Replies: 39 Views: 87439	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 9:36 am Subject: Truthers' Trouble with Evidence
pepik Replies: 39 Views: 87439	IT WAS AN INSIDE JOB. Disagreements on some of the minor details about how it was carried out are beside the point.Minor details, like to total lack of any coherent theory for what happened on 9/11? S ...
Topic: wtc7 report?
pepik Replies: 50 Views: 165161	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:43 am Subject: wtc7 report?
pepik Replies: 50 Views: 165161	Who cares, this forum and the whole 911 truth movement has fizzled into nothing anyway. Let them have their squibs and chemtrails and goblins or whatever the hell else they believe in.
Topic: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:23 am Subject: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	So...who to believe? An ATC with 11 years on the job experience and a commendation received for actually handling a hijacking, or some anonymous evidence free chancer on t'internet calling himself 'Wi ...
Topic: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:17 am Subject: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	I thought I'd got used to the inadequacy of your comprehension skills, but you continue to surprise pepik. And the wiki is like, the cliff notes version.Right, so this is the usual preface where you p ...
Topic: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:37 pm Subject: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	So Chek I guess it ends here then? You have no interest in Mathias Rust landing a plane in Red Square because you know it won't support your conspiracy theories. You make up some bs and when tha ...
Topic: Another Celeb Truther Loses the Plot
pepik Replies: 25 Views: 36945	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:47 pm Subject: Another Celeb Truther Loses the Plot
pepik Replies: 25 Views: 36945	He is saying Pearl Harbour was LIHOP right?
Topic: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 1:04 pm Subject: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	No pepik, I understand the young pilot used a light aircraft with a negligible radar return flown at tree top height under the coverage of the radar system. Hmmm... any chance you just made that up on ...
Topic: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:09 am Subject: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	Chek, do you think they used thermite to land the plane in Red Square? Cui bono! Although i've never actually seen video of the plane landing...
Topic: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:12 pm Subject: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	Can someone please estimate what the odds are of some loon [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust/]landing a Cessna in Red Square in the middle of the Cold War?
Topic: Book on fires at the Pentagon...
pepik Replies: 31 Views: 24055	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:29 pm Subject: Book on fires at the Pentagon...
pepik Replies: 31 Views: 24055	That's pretty lame even by your low standards - here's some advice, buy it, read it and then come back here and tell us what you know.I don't think so KP. Remember, you're supposed to be pretending th ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:57 am Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	My point is not that Rumsfeld's comments don't support 911 conspiracy theories, it is that they contradict them. They would have to be fake comments for the conspiracy theories to be true. So I don't ...
Topic: Book on fires at the Pentagon...
pepik Replies: 31 Views: 24055	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:25 am Subject: Book on fires at the Pentagon...
pepik Replies: 31 Views: 24055	Have any 9/11 truthers read the book or followed the press surrounding the new release on the 'Firefight' book about the Pentagon aftermath? I don't know why the book has been so fully ignored by t ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:06 am Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Very true. Both cases could almost be called "attempted deception" of the public on the part of the government, don't you agree? Conspiracy, even. What do you think the consequences we ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 10:02 am Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	What in tarnation are you talking about pepik? They didn't 'forget' anything - they lied and fabricated 'evidence' to implicate Iraq and the long planned invasion went ahead.Were you institutionalise ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:05 pm Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Come now pepik - you're surely not so dim as to think that everybody here has forgotten such recent history already. Of course the link was a fraud, but that wasn't clearly established until 2004 - a ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:34 pm Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	To anyone who supports the official narrative of events I'd simply point out that the US Defence Secretary on the afternoon of 9/11 was, without a shred of evidence, seeking to invent a conspiracy the ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:14 pm Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Repeating myself again, Pepik cannot or will not think for himself - please don't ask him to do so.The fact that I don't take Willie Nelson's opinion on civil engineering means I can't think for mysel ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:41 pm Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	What am I to make of singer Willie Nelson saying this: What am I to make of what actor Martin Sheen has said?What am I to make of someone that goes to Willie Nelson and Martin Sheen to solve engine ...
Topic: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 4:34 pm Subject: The dangerous cult of 911 truth
pepik Replies: 49 Views: 33976	The fact that someone who has been in the troof movement three years could paste such utter trash is quite surprising. Its the sort of thing someone who's been into troof for two weeks would fall for.
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:12 am Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	On the contrary pepik - that's how you maintain your view there's nothing untoward. By ignoring the fact that even so the building fell through itself in the almost freefall time of 6.5 seconds with n ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:21 am Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Not at all. If you read - and more importantly comprehend Gordon Ross' work - it becomes clear that the trick to destroying the Towers was to dissociate the inner core from the outer shell. Just as th ...
Topic: We Are Change - Tough Guys, Brainy Guys
pepik Replies: 12 Views: 9397	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 9:04 am Subject: We Are Change - Tough Guys, Brainy Guys
pepik Replies: 12 Views: 9397	If the official story WAS false I still think it is a waste of time pursuing it at this stage, because the movement has been unable to prove it to a sufficient degree to persuage the mainstream. Now t ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:36 pm Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Ah pepik, is there no end to your rapier-like intellect? I of course meant near freefall (5.98 seconds) against the observed fall time 6.5 seconds. But fair play, you got me that time. Enjoy!Right, i ...
Topic: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:33 pm Subject: Convert me!
pepik Replies: 131 Views: 87179	a freefall speed (+/- 0.5 seconds) symmetric collapseAsk the truther to provide the best of the best... and hilarity ensues. Its a canard fest! Plus or minus 0.5 seconds? So apparently faster than fr ...
Topic: Truthers; the Real Sheeple.
pepik Replies: 17 Views: 12370	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:05 pm Subject: Truthers; the Real Sheeple.
pepik Replies: 17 Views: 12370	Oh i'm just asking questions.
Topic: Truthers; the Real Sheeple.
pepik Replies: 17 Views: 12370	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 4:08 pm Subject: Truthers; the Real Sheeple.
pepik Replies: 17 Views: 12370	The only way the crime would be alleged is if there was any doubt the war happened - is that your claim? Are you an Iraq War TV Fakery proponent? Do you believe “Shock and Awe” was computer genera ...
Topic: Building collapse in Delft, Holland
pepik Replies: 51 Views: 99105	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:31 pm Subject: Building collapse in Delft, Holland
pepik Replies: 51 Views: 99105	Sorry i was distracted by the "blonde dames drinken" video. Anyway, whatever this video shows, does it prove that the cab wasn't hit by a light pole? Because otherwise we have ABSOLUTE PR ...
Topic: Dear critics
pepik Replies: 33 Views: 23775	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:49 pm Subject: Dear critics
pepik Replies: 33 Views: 23775	Pepik - you're a funny guy.Thanks, I try. I don't think Mr Pilger is into "hatred" of the USA and Israel as opposed to the policies implemented by their governments.I can tell the differenc ...
Topic: Dear critics
pepik Replies: 33 Views: 23775	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 1:43 pm Subject: Dear critics
pepik Replies: 33 Views: 23775	It would be nice if someone could answer the actual question at the start of the thread. I'd be interested to know if any of you guys have any particular feelings about a point where you could poss ...
Topic: Dear critics
pepik Replies: 33 Views: 23775	Forum: Critics' Corner Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 12:47 pm Subject: Dear critics
pepik Replies: 33 Views: 23775	John Pilger is barely evolved communist propaganda merchant who makes a living spreading hatred of the USA and Israel, and the west and capitalism in general. He makes Chomsky look honest and objectiv ...