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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 11:17 am Post subject:
No its not
Same illusionary tricks as last time and no more real, though it shows that those who havnt got their head round it last time have a chance to have another go: maybe this time you'll break through Stephen?
Still at least it shows that "september clues" is a broken tool now, so lets roll out the whole pantomine again....
I'm quite certain that characters like Killtown (who is he anyway? Just a name on the net: does anyone know who he actually is? Do you stephen? Whats his background? Where did he grow up? Whats his age? Why did he get into 9/11 research? etc) will still be putting out the same old stuff in five or even ten years time. After all, why not when he can hide behind anonymity and not face consequences?
Nice little career for him
He better hope, of course, that 9/11 Truth doesnt succeed
'Cos if it does: hes in a lot of trouble. Knowingly spreading deceptions to obfuscate the course of justice has gotta be worth a good ten stretch at least
Obviously, not you stephen, your just a stooge for him, not really your fault mate, can't punish the victims of fraud, can we? _________________ Free your Self and Free the World
The evening news shot is also on the NBC morning news. The camera appears to be mounted some way in front of the Empire State Building as in the initial shot the ESB can be seen quite massively in the foreground. Later it is zoomed in to show the twin towers. This is from about an hour later. You'd have thought someone would have got up there and straightened it up! Wherever "there" is.
Later on in the clip from the morning the chopper 4 shot can be seen zoomed out and it's from miles away. The Webfairy footage that the South Tower Anomalies III video uses is absolutely appalling as can be seen when you watch the NBC footage from the link at 911hoax.net _________________ Govern : To control
They use the Gyrocam system on some of their choppers here is the questioned i asked :
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am writing to ask if you could help me out with a piece of research. I am trying to find out if it is possible to get a perfectly steady shot at a building lets say, while the helicopter is hovering using the Gyrocam system.
Yes but that clearly is a stationary camera Mr Bridger as it's still in exactly the same position an hour later see above! _________________ Govern : To control
It is curious how these two shots match up so well. Especially as how the chopper4 shot was so high up and the stationary camera seems to be from considerably lower down.
I definitely think there is something to hide in the videos. Why else is the Naudet footage edited?
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject:
catfish wrote:
It is curious how these two shots match up so well. Especially as how the chopper4 shot was so high up and the stationary camera seems to be from considerably lower down.
David
Except they don't when looked at beyond Youtube definition.
and all the particular piece of trash under discussion adds is a quick zoom in and frame addition to the smoke rolling over the roof to imply it's from a higher altitude than it actually is.
Nice to see almost 7000 views on that original article btw.
My interest is in what Stephen and his fellow believers think of being misled, yet again. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 3889 Location: North Down, N. Ireland
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject:
catfish wrote:
I definitely think there is something to hide in the videos. Why else is the Naudet footage edited?
Peace
David
The only evidence of an 'edit' relevant to the plane impact that I can see is when the cameraman apparently ducks and runs when he realises there's a building exploding above his head.
Which I really don't find at all suspicious.
If there's something else please be more specific. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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It's not that I say this is evidence of no-planes/missiles whatever you like just that it is curious.
Chek, you yourself say there was evidence of synchronised explosions in the north tower. Perhaps they are hiding something there.
Notice I say perhaps.
I don't find it so hard to believe that the media was manipulated when it was only through the media seeing this event that it could have been seered into all of our minds as it was.
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 6:37 pm Post subject:
Well its like this Stephen:
My credibility is stretched trying to believe that Killtown isn't knowingly spreading deceptions: hes been caught out too many times: like the bird impact tail fin fiasco. The only other option is to believe he has some kind of significant personality issues (paranoia/hysteria) or is simply stupid: which clearly he is not
You, on the other hand, I think simply havnt realised how you've been suckered, becuase you currently lack the nessacary skill set to understand the significance of the evidence against NPT
I try and be polite and considerate about these things, but what with you being a pain in the arse smearing me as an "Agent" these last few days, your credit is low
So pardon me for losing my patience with you
As I say:
It's really not your fault:
But it is your responsibility to do something about it
The evening news shot is also on the NBC morning news. The camera appears to be mounted some way in front of the Empire State Building as in the initial shot the ESB can be seen quite massively in the foreground. Later it is zoomed in to show the twin towers. This is from about an hour later. You'd have thought someone would have got up there and straightened it up! Wherever "there" is.
Later on in the clip from the morning the chopper 4 shot can be seen zoomed out and it's from miles away. The Webfairy footage that the South Tower Anomalies III video uses is absolutely appalling as can be seen when you watch the NBC footage from the link at 911hoax.net
*sigh* As though NPT hasn't been invalidated enough already.
Pause the OP video at 4:07. There are obvious discrepancies in the positions /shape of the smoke around the tower spire in his two supposed same-time comparison shots, which puts the lie to his whole presentation. It doesn't matter how much the perspectives match when A) he's not showing videos that occur at the same time, and B) one of the videos is obviously of a much crappier quality. _________________ "What about a dance club that only let in deaf people? It would really only need flashing lights, so they'd save a lot of money on music." - Dresden Codak
The evening news shot is also on the NBC morning news. The camera appears to be mounted some way in front of the Empire State Building as in the initial shot the ESB can be seen quite massively in the foreground. Later it is zoomed in to show the twin towers. This is from about an hour later. You'd have thought someone would have got up there and straightened it up! Wherever "there" is.
Later on in the clip from the morning the chopper 4 shot can be seen zoomed out and it's from miles away. The Webfairy footage that the South Tower Anomalies III video uses is absolutely appalling as can be seen when you watch the NBC footage from the link at 911hoax.net
I like the way the camrea zooms away from the towers at the point of the second impact, maybe theres something to hide?
*sigh* As though NPT hasn't been invalidated enough already.
Pause the OP video at 4:07. There are obvious discrepancies in the positions /shape of the smoke around the tower spire in his two supposed same-time comparison shots, which puts the lie to his whole presentation. It doesn't matter how much the perspectives match when A) he's not showing videos that occur at the same time, and B) one of the videos is obviously of a much crappier quality.
these videos just get sillier and sillier don't they?
it's funny how this guy seems to be completely unaware of the existence of the "slow motion action replay". I mean the fact that a tv company slowed down a clip of the plane approaching the tower must prove that there were no planes - right?
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 3889 Location: North Down, N. Ireland
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 10:45 am Post subject:
gruts wrote:
these videos just get sillier and sillier don't they?
If you thinks things are silly now, wait till you see Simon 'the fraud' Shack's attempt to understand on-the-fly network and local TV program feed switching on the morning of 911, in this thread.
Why he thinks we should be the least bit interested in him cataloguing his own ignorance still escapes me.
Maybe it's an attempt to build up a 'great body of evidence'.
Ok so it's all shoite, but there's a lot of it. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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I'll reserve judgement until I've seen it, but as we've already proved beyond doubt that shack is a liar and a fraud who is deliberately trying to deceive people, I'm afraid I've got plenty of more important things to do right now....
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