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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:20 am    Post subject: 10 Years Jail For Creation/Intelligent Design Speaker Reply with quote

See what you make of this guy. I wonder if the IRS would have come after him with their net if he'd been hawking the Theory of Evolution???


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Kent Hovind — Dr. Dino — sentenced to 10 years in prison
Pensacola News Journal, USA
Jan. 19, 2007
Michael Stewart

Pensacola evangelist Kent Hovind was sentenced Friday afternoon to 10 years in prison on charges of tax fraud.

After a lengthy sentencing hearing that last 5 1/2 hours, U.S. District Judge Casey Rodgers ordered Hovind also:
– Pay $640,000 in restitution to the Internal Revenue Service.
– Pay the prosecution’s court costs of $7,078.
– Serve three years parole once he is released from prison.

Hovind’s wife, Jo Hovind, also was scheduled to be sentenced. Rodgers postponed her sentencing until March 1 to allow her defense attorney an opportunity to argue possible discrepancies in sentencing guidelines.

The Hovind case, at a glance
The Hovinds were charged with a total of 58 counts of tax evasion.
Counts one through 12 include Kent Hovind’s alleged failure to collect nearly $470,000 in employee taxes.
Counts 13 through 57 include both Kent and Jo Hovind. They are charged with structuring cash transactions of $430,500 to avoid reporting requirements.
Count 58 includes the following charges against Kent Hovind:
Filing a frivolous lawsuit against the IRS, demanding damages for criminal trespass.
Filing an injunction against an IRS agent.
Making threats against investigators and those cooperating with the investigation.
Filing false complaints against the IRS for false arrest, excessive use of force and theft.

Prior to his sentencing, a tearful Kent Hovind, also known as “Dr. Dino” asked for the court’s leniency.
“If it’s just money the IRS wants, there are thousands of people out there who will help pay the money they want so I can go back out there and preach,” Hovind said.
Hovind, founder of Creation Science Evangelism and Dinosaur Adventure Land in Pensacola, was found guilty in November of 58 federal counts, including failure to pay $845,000 in employee-related taxes. He faced a maximum of 288 years in prison.
Jo Hovind was charged and convicted in 44 of the counts involving evading bank-reporting requirements and faces a maximum of 225 years in prison.
Kent Hovind, who is incarcerated in the Escambia County Jail, will be assigned to a prison by the Bureau of Prisons. Rodgers recommended Kent Hovind be sent to the prison at Saufley Field in Pensacola so he will be close to his family.
It will be up to the Bureau of Prisons, however, to make that determination.
In November, a jury found Creation Science Evangelism founder Kent Hovind guilty on 58 federal counts, including failing to pay $845,00 in employee-related taxes.
Hovind’s wife, Jo Hovind, also was convicted in 44 of the counts involving bank-reporting requirements.
A federal clerk said Thursday U.S. District Judge Casey Rodgers will sentence the Hovinds at 9 a.m. today.
Kent Hovind, who has remained in custody at an undisclosed location since his conviction, faces a maximum of 288 years in prison. Jo Hovind could be sentenced to up to 225 years in prison. She has remained free pending sentencing.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He gave in the video the Websters definition of stupid and that his mom always taught him not to call people stupid.

Well kent have no problem with creation but your definitely stupid about your financial affairs

Quite apt when he shows the 10 commandments that "Thou shall not bear false witness (lie) " was highlighted

Interesting bit towards the end (1 hr 15mins) about the Evolutionists who taught that Negros, aborigines and Indians were lesser evolved i.e. not homo sapiens so it was ok to kill them Ruling elite still practice this??

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pensacola evangelist Kent Hovind was sentenced Friday afternoon to 10 years in prison on charges of tax fraud.

You made a "mistake" in the title of this thread Tony. It should read "Ten years jail for Tax evader and Fraudster". Obviously an innocent error that anyone could make!- - no attempt to mislead!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Pensacola evangelist Kent Hovind was sentenced Friday afternoon to 10 years in prison on charges of tax fraud.

You made a "mistake" in the title of this thread Tony. It should read "Ten years jail for Tax evader and Fraudster". Obviously an innocent error that anyone could make!- - no attempt to mislead!


Get over

10 years in the slammer for failing to collect employees taxes= fraud for a tax that isnt even legal?

No, Hovinds been stiched up a kipper

Hes a funny man: certainly not right about everything: but he was debating the arse off college proffesors and some of his blows against the credibility of evolution dogma certainly do hit home: which is why hes so hated in some circles, obviously

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He may have been stitched up but he wasn't stitched up for being a believer in "Intelligent Design"!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He may have been stitched up but he wasn't stitched up for being a believer in "Intelligent Design"!!!


Indeed not. Hovind is clearly a creationist

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is claiming that he's running a religious ministry which he certainly appears to be.

As I understand it the court said he was just an ordinary business man.

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He gave in the video the Websters definition of stupid and that his mom always taught him not to call people stupid.

Well kent have no problem with creation but your definitely stupid about your financial affairs

Quite apt when he shows the 10 commandments that "Thou shall not bear false witness (lie) " was highlighted

Interesting bit towards the end (1 hr 15mins) about the Evolutionists who taught that Negros, aborigines and Indians were lesser evolved i.e. not homo sapiens so it was ok to kill them Ruling elite still practice this??

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A very interesting video that does raise some questions on the evolution theory,if you can get past the first few "that's stupid" minutes that is!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I'm sure that if you can get through all the stupid bits of creationist theory then it will contain some interesting points but unfortunately that's very hard to do whilst maintaining a straight face and one's sanity.

He should have paid his taxes like everyone else.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And I'm sure that if you can get through all the stupid bits of creationist theory then it will contain some interesting points but unfortunately that's very hard to do whilst maintaining a straight face and one's sanity.


Sure with you on some of it like:

The bible is scientifically accurate, and creation was 6000 years ago with
a cold earth Shocked

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He should have paid his taxes like everyone else.


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10 years in the slammer for failing to collect employees taxes= fraud for a tax that isnt even legal?


Quite a long time in the slammer, quite an example he's been made of eh!

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And I'm sure that if you can get through all the stupid bits of creationist theory then it will contain some interesting points but unfortunately that's very hard to do whilst maintaining a straight face and one's sanity.

He should have paid his taxes like everyone else.


Which in itself is indicative of the grip evolutionists have on the dabte when a fringe speaker like Hovind has been such a prominent thorn in their side, and that one has to wade throw the literalist mud to get at the diamonds within from Hovinds work

mind you the dawkinists are getting in a tizzy about this new film by this Ben Stein guy:


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Interestingly, the evolutionists dont directly deny the frauds that Hovind exposes.... they just say "Yes but the science has moved on since then...."

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's also the counter argument to consider:


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bll Reilly let's it flow a bit:

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Consideing how BR is hated for obvious reasons,this begs a big question
why he's being nice to this guy!

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I fixed the vids Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:47 pm    Post subject: Dinosaurs still around? Reply with quote

Surely Creationists are a subset of 'intelligent design' adherants? He's in the Intelligent Design camp alright which is the fundamenal division with evolutionists.

No wonder this bloke's been locked up in jail! He's dead against denominations such as the Church of England and for open minded enquiry and discerning truth for yourself.

His ideas are at the core of so much stuff - and whilst I have serious questions myself about these theories, I love the way it challenges so many of our basic assumptions.

We have been taught to believe that it is irrational to question evolution and that anyone who even takes it seriously enough to raise questions is a wingnut.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Dinosaurs still around? Reply with quote

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We have been taught to believe that it is irrational to question evolution and that anyone who even takes it seriously enough to raise questions is a wingnut.


What exact school did you go to? Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Dinosaurs still around? Reply with quote

Saint Mary on the Mountain grammar school in Saffron Walden, why?


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We have been taught to believe that it is irrational to question evolution and that anyone who even takes it seriously enough to raise questions is a wingnut.


What exact school did you go to? Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The "We have been taught that it's irrational to question evolution" line got to me. I'm kind of curious where you got the impression that anyone who questions it is considered a "wingnut"... and, at any rate, I have precious little sympathy for adherents to a belief that is still very much in the majority.

You may have been 'taught' as such (and I doubt that), but that doesn't mean you have to believe it by default. As, obviously, you do not. I, for one, have never gotten the impression that I was taught anything of the sort. I was taught science, and physics, and all these things that are decidedly not invisible sky-daddies, but rarely have I gotten the impression, other than from violently secular intellectuals, that people who believe in such are irrational. Wrong, maybe, but not much worse.

As a side note, I have a spirituality all my own. But I'll be damned if I ever believe it belongs anywhere besides a theology or philosophy course. Not in the science classroom, and not in the public square.

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PostPosted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You may have been 'taught' as such (and I doubt that)


The science curriculum in our school was entirely evolutionary based. Presenting Darwin's Theory of Evolution as fact.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Da Ali G Show does science. Ali G (Sasha Baron-Cohen) invited (now federal inmate and tax cheat) creationist Kent Hovind to discuss evolution.

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Kent Hovind, BOP Register number 06452-017, is scheduled for release from prison on August 11, 2015
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Kent Hovind explains the NWO
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