Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: Scottish Politics and 911, War on Terror, etc
Please post your thoughts on this stuff here. _________________ For the defence of our one worldwide civilian Motherland, against whatever ruling or informal fraternities.
Message from Fight Racism! Fight Imperialism!/Revolutionary Communist Group.
"We are circulating this email round all the socialist, solidarity, campaigning and progressive organisations.
On Tuesday evening in Dundee, 27 November, the police arrested a comrade from Fight Racism! Fight Imperialism!/Revolutionary Communist Group. Michael was distributing his organisation's newspaper and handing out leaflets about the forthcoming Speaking Tour of Cuban comrades. The police arrived at the instigation of the janitors at the new Heathfield Building in Dundee's Hawkhill. Michael was there because this building was the venue for that evening's "Allah Made Me Funny" show.
He was receiving a friendly response from the overwhelmingly Muslim crowds and no complaints were made. The police aggressively demanded that he move on and arrested Michael very violently when he asked what the legal basis for that request was. He was charged at by the female officer, turned round and held by the arms by both officers. It was demanded by the officers that he lie face down on the concrete and present his arms behind him for cuffing. Michael verbally protested at this treatment and shouted to the crowd that he was not resisting arrest or being violent. He was cuffed very painfully and charged at the local police station with disorderly conduct, namely "lashing out with arms and legs". He was released just before midnight. Michael is very confident that CCTV and the videoing of the arrest by people will back this account and clear him completely.
Michael's defence campaign is being formed to challenge the arrest and charge and to vigorously and publicly demand that the officers themselves be charged. This is a vital moment for all campaigners and political activists as the Labour government plans to bring in even more repressive legislation and the targeting of communities such as the Muslim community is stepped up.
Defence of our rights to protest, to free speech, to distribute and associate is under attack.
All these rights are guaranteed in law but they must be asserted and defended to be meaningful. It cannot be the case that a crime can be made of making socialist and anti-racist material publicly available and that police officers can behave in this arbitrary and dangerous way.
Please support the campaign. Contact the campaign (see below) to add your organisations or individual name to the Statement of Protest. Leave contact details and consider a donation to help fund the costs of campaigning. The campaign can be contacted on 07904057790 and at frfiscotland@yahoo.co.uk
Since the highly dubious circumstances surrounding the Glasgow Airport incident some months ago, the jailing for eight years of Mohammed Siddique for nothing more than a thought-crime, the persecution of his lawyer, Aamer Anwar, by a politically-biased judge, Colin Sutherland, and the threatening tones being made by the Scots Police of the danger of a dirty-bomb attack it seems that the Brown junta (c'mon, it's not a government, it's a four-man junta) has given special instructions to the Scots Plods to come down heavy on Muslims and pro-Muslims alike.
Why else would a perfectly innocent campaigner against Islamophobia be treated so aggressively for doing nothing more than leafleting in a lobby? Michael in Dundee (see Press Release below) was not only violently assaulted by the Police, he was thrown to the ground and cuffed painfully before being banged-up in a filthy cell before being charged. The only thing they didn't do was to taser him! That's coming, no doubt.
It seems that the Scottish Police, having nothing better to do than persecute innocent citizens, have been watching too many videos of police violence in the US such as the one below. Besides which, it is highly likely that these new tactics of violent arrest for nothing more than leafleting are being deliberately used by the Police in order to test the legal waters to see if the Scottish judiciary is still brave enough (after the Anwar incident) to defend the civil rights of our people.
Are these plods sniffing confiscated coke which is making them so violent? Or are they natural-born, authoritarian bullies? Or both?
Whatever the case, the Police in both Scotland and south of the Border are now becoming too big for their size-ten boots. It is high time that they should be knocked down to size for it is their job to protect the citizenry, not to attack them.
Ever since 911, this blogger has been warning his readers that the fake 'War on Terror' was merely a justification for taking away whatever freedoms we had and to turn our countries into police states. And that the Muslims were, like the Jews in Nazi Germany, the canary-in-the-cage. First it would be the Muslims, then it would be all dissenters.
That time has come.
The reputation of the Police is now at an all-time low. Far from trusting them to tell you the time or to help old ladies across the road, the Police are now feared by the average citizen. A fear that is deliberately promoted by a Police force whose supposedly blue uniforms get darker as their peaks become more reminiscent of the Gestapo.
Britain is now very close to being a Police State. It is already very late in the day to stop what seems like a horrific inevitability. But of course, it's never too late, for even Police States cannot last forever. However, if they are not prevented, contained and reversed by the few powers that the people still have then it will no longer be possible to change things through the electoral process.
And when the electoral process can no longer provide a means for change only one other means remains available. And that is Revolution. I put it to my readers, which option do you prefer? Ignoring both, by the way, is no option at all.
For as long as human beings, not cyborgs, walk the face of this Earth they will treasure their freedoms which, when taken away from them, they will fight to retrieve in one form or another. Where political reform does not come only revolution will. Our politicians know that only too well. And yet they cynically refuse us political reform and bully us into accepting a rapidly-deteriorating status quo, hoping perhaps that it's a problem they can simply ignore and leave for another day, another government.
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1107 Location: Free Scotland!
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:06 am Post subject:
HEATHFIELD ARREST DEFENCE CAMPAIGN
BULLETIN 1.MONDAY 3 DECEMBER
Comrades and Friends, thank you for all the solidarity, support and assistance you have given. Much more of this and much more organisation is necessary in order to send out a clear message that attacks on democratic rights will be fought and resisted by all! PUBLICISE AND JOIN THE CAMPAIGN. CIRCULATE THIS CALL! SEND MESSAGES OF SUPPORT! PROTEST! DEFEND FREE SPEECH!
SATURDAY 8 DECEMBER 1.00PM
CENTRAL MURRAYGATE, DUNDEE
Campaign News:
Legal Aid not available to defend Michael on the grounds of his salary of £21,000. How does anyone defend themselves from criminal charges if Legal Aid is not available? Equal before the eyes of the law? We don't think so!...Craig Murray, Rector of Dundee University has contacted the campaign to express his concern...has been asked to contact the University to see if CCTV tapes are secured. We wouldn't want them to go missing, get lost or taped over eh! See you all Saturday!
On Tuesday evening in Dundee, 27 November the police arrested a comrade from Fight Racism! Fight Imperialism!/ Revolutionary Communist Group. Michael was distributing his organisations newspaper and handing out leaflets about the forthcoming Speaking Tour of Cuban comrades. The police arrived at the instigation of the janitors at the new Heathfield Building in Dundee's Hawkhill. Michael was there because this building was the venue for that evening's "Allah Made Me Funny" show. He was receiving a friendly response from the overwhelmingly Muslim crowds and no complaints were made. The police aggressively demanded that he move on and arrested Michael very violently when he asked what the legal basis for that request was. He was charged at by the female officer, turned round and held by the arms by both officers. It was demanded by the officers that he lie face down on the concrete and present his arms behind him for cuffing. Michael verbally protested at this treatment and shouted to the crowd that he was not resisting arrest or being violent. He was cuffed very painfully and charged at the local police station with Disorderly Conduct, namely "lashing out with arms and legs". He was released just before midnight. Michael is very confident that CCTV and the videoing of the arrest by people will back this account and clear him completely.
Michael's Defence Campaign is being formed to challenge the arrest and charge and to vigorously and publicly demand that the officers themselves be charged. This is a vital moment for all campaigners and political activists as the Labour government plans to bring in even more repressive legislation and the targetting of communities such as the Muslim community is stepped up. Defence of our rights to protest, to free speech, to distribute and associate is under attack. All these rights are guaranteed in law but they must be asserted and defended to be meaningful. It cannot be the case that a crime can be made of making socialist and anti-racist material publicly available and that police officers can behave in this arbitrary and dangerous way.
Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 1107 Location: Free Scotland!
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:46 am Post subject:
HEATHFIELD ARREST DEFENCE CAMPAIGN
BULLETIN 3 TUESDAY 11 DECEMBER
COMRADES AND FRIENDS,
My organisation- Fight Racism! Fight Imperialism!/ Revolutionary Communist Group- will be putting out a statement condemning recent police harassment in Scotland. Police, plainclothes and uniformed, turned up at our public meeting in Glasgow last Thursday and asked to be kept informed about future meetings and where our newspaper was available. In Dundee the cops turned up at Michael's door on Thursday and Friday evening to let him know about the conditions and penalties arising under the Public Order Act for organising a protest as well as quoting the Civic Government Act (Scotland) 1982 regarding organisation of a "procession". These are purely intimidatory "visits" and will not succeed in undermining this campaign and all the other campaigns which are emerging to defend democratic rights.
Thanks to all those who turned out for the Free Speech Protest in Dundee on Saturday. Comrades and friends from the local Scottish Socialist Party, Solidarity, Socialist Workers Party, Scotland Against Criminalising Communities, Fight Racism! Fight Imperialism!/ Revolutionary Communist Group and other individuals stood together to denounce the recent arrest and the attacks taking place on all of our rights. To the interest of local citizens we used the street protest to condemn the charges and the love- in between the local reactionary DC. Thomsons press and the Tayside constabulary which has meant that the campaign has not been covered.
Making a noise, protesting, campaigning, leafleting, putting news out on the web does work! The police who had threatened they would turn up on Saturday did not and we were able to make the protest unhindered. We were able to fight for our rights by fighting for our rights and organising together. This simple lesson has to be learned over and over. You get the rights you are prepared to fight for!
whee travel advice, etc is given. _________________ For the defence of our one worldwide civilian Motherland, against whatever ruling or informal fraternities.
In 2006, 50 per cent of people said that Scotland would begin to lose its identity if more Muslims came to live here compared to 38 per cent in 2003. Over the same period there was a four-point increase in the proportion who say they would be unhappy about a relative forming a relationship with a Muslim.
ANALYSIS: PREJUDICE AGAINST FAITH NOT COLOUR
THE revealing statistic in yesterday's government report into discrimination is that while 4 per cent of people would object to an Asian teacher, 21 per cent would do so if it was a Muslim teacher writes Osama Saeed.
Fake report by Tory-linked 'think-tank'http://z13.invisionfree.com/julyseventh/index.php?showtopi c=2443
:
Edinburgh mosque was one of the mosques allegedly surveyed. A stash of leaflets calling for the killing of apostates was said to have been found on its premises. The story topped the BBC's news bulletins across the UK. A few days later the mosque was vandalised. However, an investigation by the mosque authorities revealed that the material in question appears to have been dropped inside the doorway to the mosque a week after the report's publication http://www.osamasaeed.org/osama/2007/12/newsnight-rips.html. _________________ For the defence of our one worldwide civilian Motherland, against whatever ruling or informal fraternities.
I think you may all be missing the point some what.
I fully believe that the Glasgow airport attack was genuine. You can argue whether they were brainwashed into doing it or not, however, this misses the point that it was a totally incompetent event... I mean for christ sake, it was Monty pythons' 'Suicide squad'.
To be honest, the best advert for 9/11 being an inside job was the Glasgow airport event.... 9/11 was professional (full stop!), Glasgow Airport was how it would have ended up if done by real terrorists.
Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: Incompetence by spook design?
Hi Brian,
Suppose that
a) they know how to hypnotise people [Port Arthur massacre?, Lennon assassin?]- which victim perps/patsies may be drawn from a pool of people dabbling in som eor other strand of Islamic radicalism, which circle of people may not or probably may well be monitored and even egged on, instigated by spook assets ....
B 'They' do know how to make cars swerve and crash suddenly (South African BOSS technology adapted by MI5 for planned assassination of Milosevic and actual assassination of Diana?)
c) I question your argument from perceived incompetence. Suppose 'They' did achieve very professionally the degree of Iconic damage and public scare they were after, Brown-era MI5 being ?? more 'humane' than Blair/MET/MI6/CIA/Mossad lot who did J7 (or most/much of J7). ["OK. I'll agree we need a FFT incident to bind the Scots into UK and put Salmond in his place, but there'll be trouble if there are [white] casualties ...." ??]
d) Weren't there c***-ups in execution of 9/11?
e.g. complete lack of preparation of (phoney) CCTV at airports;
lack of phoney passenger lists with Arab names on;
quality control of the mobile phones story;
plus the whole bloody thing looks like an enormous own goal now that we have a better sense of the physics - the Twin towers are iconic for us now - [which is why they went off iconic images for Madrid, then decided they needed at least one of the explosions to be above ground for J7 at Tavistock Sq with the top of the bus coming off so neatly] .
And personally, although I do think there are serious questions to be asked about the Sept Clues stuff, I am persuaded by both the Directed Energy angle of Judy Woods and the Morgan Reynolds line about the logical impossibility and lack-of-debris-improbability of there having been any Boeings on Sept 11th , so I think it quite possible that the Sept Clues bit about Fox News bungling their shot of the video faked plane hitting the South Tower is correct, even if the video series is wrong, mistaken, planted disinfo, etc on other points. _________________ For the defence of our one worldwide civilian Motherland, against whatever ruling or informal fraternities.
In answer to your response, I have not seen any satisfactory evidence for the Glasgow event to enable me to jump on the FF bandwagon. This is in stark contrast with 9/11 and 7/7 where the evidence is everywhere. Hence...
a) Purely conjecture.
b) Same as a)
c) If you want to question my 'incompetence argument, don't 'suppose'. Just show me the evidence that Glasgow was a FFTE. I believe the onus lies with you to provide 'factual' evidence (not supposition) that it was, rather than for me to provide proof that it was not.
Quote:
eg. I tell you I saw an Alien... Which is your response,
1. "Did you take a photograph then?"
2. "wow... what did it look like?"
d) Again 9/11 has the evidence... Glasgow does not!
Finally, you cannot be serious regarding Judy Wood. As a professional engineer (not that I need to be to see through that childs fantasy's) I can honestly say that she is a disgrace to science and to whoever she purchased her alledged qualifications from.
I expected more Keith
It is NOT the goal of this movement to adopt 'crazy conspiracy theories'. There is a "conroversy's" section on this site for a reason. (namely as a dumping ground for all the flaff!) What we are trying to achieve here is truth... NOT 'made up' stuff!
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: Steady on please Brian
Dear Brian,
I have never claimed to have smoking guns for the Glasgow airport 'bomb' attack (with no bombs - which is why I call it a fire crash) being an inside job or partly manipulated event. But backbear is not the only person to think that I did allign a bunch of question-marks, which together to my mind suggest it might well be.
I can respect your guess/hunch/opinion that the Glasgow airport event is veridical. Just because it is the received media wisdom doesn't prove it is wrong!!
What I do question is whether we can know for certain its level of competence unless we know for certain what the perps were trying to achieve and who they were. Your argument is circular (the deed was done by bona fide Asian terrorist fanatics to cause max damage to peopole and property in the UK, and because it only created a spectacular fire for the news cameras, it was incredibly incompetent).
My alternative hypothesis of full or partial FFT means that, assuming its truth for the moment (bear with me, Brian), I am saying its not certain that the planners wanted to create more than an iconic scarey event at a politically useful juncture vis a vis Scottish politics. I do accept that my 'effectiveness reasoning' is circular along with my hypothesis as to the perps/purpose.
But I just wanted you to be less certain about your take on things, and not seek to bolster your 'take' with a seemingly independent observation, when in fact you also have a circularity underlying your incompetence position/assumption.
I see no reason why we can't agree to differ about this. Likewise about the degree of c***-ups not professional competence involved in 9/11.
However I am distressed by the vitriol with which you diss Judy Woods. This being Scotland we can make our own rules (you, Barbara and Rory) concerning whether you instantly consign all Directed Energy stuff to the UK-level sinbin of 'controversial theories' , but if you do then I would appeal.
a) the fact that people get angry about having their taken for granted perceptions questioned shouldn't mean that something is damned as 'controversial' or flakey - else our whole truth movement is illegitimate. I find more and more of us are unconsciously dishing out to others the very same oppressive abuse with which we have been hurt and marginalised and scorned.
b) Woods says that before we can work out why 9/11 happened we need to know who did it and before that we need to know how it happened, and before that we need to humbly examine and check the physical facts (e.g. what evidence is there - and from whom - for molten metal hotspots at the bottom of the twin towers, or for the steel being shipped away to China). In this context she has been accumulating a lot of what happened facts - foremost among which is the tremendous lack of rubble/debris at the foot of the Twin towers (unlike WTC7, which had a big pile).
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/NIST/NIST_RFC.html
If you think her photographic evidence from 9/11 and 9/12 is wrong, then please provide the evidence, don't abuse her. It has an intimidating effect on people who might be thinking of checking the evidence with an open mind, or venturing their view on a public forum. I do support your aim of encouraging a free flow of conversation, but please can we do this with mutual respect and provision of evidence and reason calmly.
c) I find it particularly distressing to see Woods being character-assassinated when I would say it is 90 plus percent likely that the PTB in the US are intimidating her with actual assassinations of her student/co-researcher (in a mysterious phoney mugging) and her instructors/friends in the Virginia State Tech shooting spree which rampaged through the dormitory block which Judy is often in occuring exactly one month after she lodged her devastating lawsuit against NIST. There are two other mystery murders in this or related sagas (cold fusion/Steven Jones and the helicopter pilot of Chopper 7 on 9/11)
See the EVIDENCE for this on the 9/11 Directed Energy Weapon / TV-Fakery Suppression Timeline
http://www.checktheevidence.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&tas k=view&id=151&Itemid=60 (which is mostly excellent though very disturbing, but much too paranoid in just one or two places, IMO, at any rate about Griffin and Falk).
Yours for evidence and reason,
all the best, Brian,
Keith _________________ For the defence of our one worldwide civilian Motherland, against whatever ruling or informal fraternities.
The Glasgow airport attack and the previous London gas cannister attack are the most puny and phony "terrorist" attacks of them all. Doctors left registered mobile phones in cars, and set themselves alight, better prepared to throw punches at cops? Not real. Absolutely not
Sorry for this south of the border interruption, but these attacks were completely staged _________________ http://www.exopolitics-leeds.co.uk/introduction
Paul, no need to appologise, we welcome all comments here.
However, all I ask is that you show me the proof that these were not events carried out by 'Disgruntled' people because of the wars etc.
If you can do that then OK... however if you cannot, then you are in no position to jump to conclusions. That goes for you too Keith.
Again... Show me the evidence or stay schtum. That way we do not get dragged into semantics.
regards,
Ps. Keith, with all due respect, you are talking to a professional engineer here http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=999589. All I can say is if you are a Judy Wood advocate then it just shows your laymanship with regards to physics. This woman is a nutjob (pure and simple) so I wish you would stop giving her the respect she does not deserve.
How about watching this... It is very simple my freind, NOT COMPLICATED!.... Simple
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 326 Location: All Power To The People, No More Power To The Pigs
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:53 pm Post subject:
paul wright wrote:
The Glasgow airport attack and the previous London gas cannister attack are the most puny and phony "terrorist" attacks of them all. Doctors left registered mobile phones in cars, and set themselves alight, better prepared to throw punches at cops? Not real. Absolutely not
Sorry for this south of the border interruption, but these attacks were completely staged
For the attacks to be 'staged' is rather dependent on finding someone willing to drive a car into an airport and run round shouting Allah Akhbar whilst setting themselves on fire, for no gain to themselves.
Even the people on this forum should be able to recognise that it is far more likely this was actually a terrorist attack.
Or is every single Islamist attack, everywhere in the world always the work of the US/Israel?
If your post is genuine, you, like many others, are in danger of a troubling Tsunami sweeping mankind.
That being, a belief of everything me and my media mates throw at you.
If me and my media mates, tell you that a big fat man actually dropped presents down your chimney, early one frosty morning in December, would you then spend your precious time sharing that news?
If me and my media mates filmed said philanthropist and broadcast that film into your uncritical mind, would you then spend your precious time telling your mates that you had seen it?
If me and my media mates then went on to tell you that the big friendly giant was in fact you, would you then spend your precious time telling us that it was, in fact, you?
If me and my media mates then told you that this information was parapolitical and would cost you about £3.50, would you buy it? _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan.
Who knows? It certainly isn't the work of "Islamisists" whatever they are, and there's more compelling evidence that 9/11 and 7/7 was the work of Israel than it was anything to do with "Islamasists".
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