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astro3 Suspended
Joined: 28 Jul 2005 Posts: 274 Location: North West London
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: Terrorism in Europe hardly exists |
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Here is Elias Davidsson's evaluation of deaths due to 'terrorism' in Europe in this century. http://juscogens.org/english/index.php. He told me that he obtained his stats from from http://www.tkb.org (Click on the right column on Incident Reports by Region, then select the appropriate time frame and the region (Western Europe) in the dialogue boxes).
Terrorism fatalities in Western European countries 2001-2006
Country 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006
Austria 0 0 0 0 0 0
Belgium 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cyprus 0 0 0 0 0
Denmark 0 0 0 0 0 0
Finland 0 0 0 0 0 0
France 2 6 2 1 0 0
Germany 0 0 0 0 0 0
Greece 0 0 1 0 0 0
Iceland 0 0 0 0 0 0
Ireland 0 0 0 0 0 0
Italy 0 1 0 2 0 0
Luxembourg 0 0 0 0 0 0
Netherlands 0 1** 0 1** 0 0
Northern Ireland 9 4 1 0 0 0
Norway 0 0 0 0 0 0
Portugal 0 0 0 0 0 0
Spain 16 7 4 191* 0 0
Sweden 0 0 0 0 0 0
Switzerland 0 0 0 0 0 0
United Kingdom 0 0 0 0 56* 0
* Unsolved crimes. Unclaimed crimes. Anomalies in the public account. No public inquiry allowed. Suspicion of police/intelligence involvement in the crime. See specific websites dedicated to these crimes.
** Wrongly classified as terrorism. These were plain acts of murder in which the murderer intended to kill his selected victim.
Analysis: Quote: | Apart from the two unsolved "terrorist" crimes mentioned above, which are suspected to have been "false-flag" operations masterminded by Western intelligence agencies (like the events of 9/11), most terrorism fatalities between 2001 and 2006 in Western Europe occured in Spain (as a result of reported Basque terror attacks) and in Northern Ireland (apparently by IRA and Unionists). Both of these cases represent local political conflicts.... To state that terrorism constitutes a "significant threat to the security of Europe" is a monumental and most probably wilful misrepresentation by the European Council. |
So, excluding the false-flag terror events he found about three deaths per nation due to 'terror' in this century. That's enormously less than eg death by snake bites.
He concluded: Quote: | International terrorism is contrived threat, a monumental deception carried out by governments and facilitated by mass media to justify aggression, occupation, intervention and the curtailment of human rights. This deception must be exposed as an attack by colluding governments on democracy and human rights. By permitting states to engage in gross human rights violations and aggression, the contrived threat of international terrorism may itself be considered as threat to international peace and security. |
For a different and more orthodox view one could go to the Europol site www.europol.europa.eu/publications/ Quote: | Altogether 498 [terror] attacks were carried out in the EU in 2006.The vast majority of them resulted in limited material damage and were not intended to kill. However, the failed attack in Germany and the foiled London plot demonstrate that Islamist terrorists also aim at mass casualties. A total of 706 individuals suspected of terrorism offences were arrested in 15 Member States in 2006. Investigations into Islamist terrorism are clearly a priority for Member States' law enforcement as demonstrated by the number of arrested suspects reported by Member States. |
The huge majority of arrests of British Muslims on 'terrorism' charges do not result in any prosection so maybe the above figure of arrests does not mean very much. |
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Nick Cooper Suspended
Joined: 04 Sep 2007 Posts: 329
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Terrorism in Europe hardly exists |
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astro3 wrote: | Here is Elias Davidsson's evaluation of deaths due to 'terrorism' in Europe in this century. http://juscogens.org/english/index.php. He told me that he obtained his stats from from http://www.tkb.org (Click on the right column on Incident Reports by Region, then select the appropriate time frame and the region (Western Europe) in the dialogue boxes). |
While not disagreeing with the general premise (i.e. threat of "genuine" terrorism is vastly overstated), I would question the reliability of the data source used. According to the latest Home Office statistical bulletin on homicide, the only fatalities in England & Wales attributed to terrorism between 1995 and 2004/05 were 2 in 1996 (calendar year) and 3 in 1999/2000 (financial year). Setting the TKB database for these show no fatalities in the UK in either time period at all. |
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emett New Poster
Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: Question of definition |
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There may of course be differences between data bases on terrorism based on their own definitions of terrorism. Whether the figure is 3 or 0 per year does not matter in terms of the overall policy. For all purposes the "war on terror" is a fraud imposed on the whole world by the political community. There is no known political party in Europe that I know of, that has exposed this fraud. They all have acquiesced to this lie, perhaps in the fear of appearing too complacent in the case a terrorist attack would occur.
I suggest a three-prong approach to this issue:
(a) Expose the bogus claim that terrorism is a threat to "national security" or to "society" or to "international peace". Genuine terrorism is certainly a threat to the direct victims, which are not numerous. It has never and nowhere been a threat to any nation, let alone to the international order. Terrorism would be invisible to 99.99% of society unless media would emphasize it. It is the media which essentially makes terrorism a real scare, not the acts themselves.
(b) Expose the refusal of governments and media to publicize statistics on terror mortality as a means to bamboozle the public and maintain the myth of the terrorist threat.
(c) Expose the participation of police and intelligence agencies in fomenting, financing and sometimes executing terrorist acts, which are then attributed to Muslims. There are numerous such examples in the public domain, even if we forget 9/11 and 7/7. |
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