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Well, no, far from open and shut, as these events are always contrived to be.
Very interesting retrieved information here with the redolence of an underground cell and so on, and of course Maddy utterly fits the bill for sacrificial paedo ritual rape and murder victim so beloved by the European elite and Royal types
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But surely they already searched his house and saw the cellar, it was hardly a secret. Sounds like the media keeping the pot simmering by dripfeeding us titbits.
I do not think Murat the next door neighbour would do this. It makes no sense for people to nonsense on their own doorstep. I still dont buy the parents story, after all we know now that the father is not the biological father and many aspects of the parents story do not seem to make sense.
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| Quote: | | It makes no sense for people to nonsense on their own doorstep. I still dont buy the parents story, after all we know now that the father is not the biological father and many aspects of the parents story do not seem to make sense. |
Have not been following the story that intently so where did the info about Mr Mcann not being the biological father come from?
As regards defecating on ones doorstep if youve got a go youve got a go whats more important is not being seen and the quicker the better. murats place that close would reduce time to be seen with the child.
Pauls comments about child sacrifice are horribly true. Doreen Irvine's book From Witchcraft To Christ gives indication of this. Lets hope.
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http://www.newsdeskspecial.co.uk/2007/10/gerry-mccann-is.html
Gerry McCann ‘is not Maddie’s biological father’
The issue about ritual sacrifice and/or paedophilia is probably at the centre of this case. But i still feel that Murat is the victim of a smear campaign. The Portugese police seem very certain the McCann's have lied.
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Apart from the fact that she was blond and under the age of eight, I'd find interesting her pupil running into iris abnormality.
At precisely the point iridologists pinpoint upper lung function
This would suggest suffocation via fellatio as a reason why she was chosen
Sorry if that's a sick thought, but these people chose their victims for an energetic reason
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Medical Practices Subcommittee
Chairman: Professor A Elliott
Mr L Gabriel
Dr C J Gibson
Dr F Gleeson
Ms Julie Lockhart
Dr G P McCann
Dr C Gillian Markham
Professor M D Mason
Professor Louise Parker
Ok so it looks like the McCanns are both Labour and Gerry is a government employee involved in radiation issues
http://www.comare.org.uk/comare_work.htm
http://stephiblog.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/the-mccanns-guilty-as-hell/
I find stefi's blog a worthwhile read sometimes here is what she says about the McCanns
| Quote: | Somethings beggar belief: like the claim that Maddie McCann was kidnapped on the 3 May 2007 in Praia da Luz, Portugal - she wasn’t! - there isn’t one iota of evidence that supports that theory.
But there is plenty of forensic and circumstantial evidence to support the police theory that Maddie was killed in the McCanns apartment, and that her little body was hidden, then later moved in the Renault Scenic that Gerry McCann hired 25 days after her death. Whether or not that forensic evidence is conclusive, the circumstantial evidence alone would be enough to secure a conviction in most countries. The McCann version of events just isn’t credible - it is downright irrational to believe Maddie was kidnapped when there is no evidence to support that story.
The McCanns claim that they went on holiday to Portugal, left their three little children unattended in an unlocked apartment to go to the pub with friends and when they came back their daughter was missing. That would be believable if she wondered off and was found dead nearby. But the McCann never entertained the idea that she wondered off, they always said she was kidnapped.
Even though they have no evidence - and none has turned up since - they maintain that some phantom crept into their apartment, took their daughter without being seen or heard, and then left without leaving a single trace of evidence.
Yes officer, she was there in her bed when we went out but when we came back out of our skulls, she was gone. She must have been kidnapped by Moroccan paedophiles.
How long do you think before they would have been arrested in the UK on suspicion of murder?
The only person who claims to have seen anything remotely suspicious is Jane Tanner, one of the Tapas nine, who says she saw a man (who she can’t identify) carrying a girl in pyjamas on the path away from the apartment - the police can prove that she didn’t. They have two witness statements one from Jeremy Wilkins, who it was talking to Gerry McCann, and another from an unnamed Irish teenage girl; both say that neither Tanner or the phantom were on the path when she claims. That would be enough to charge Tanner with peverting the course of justice in the UK.
In normal circumstances, the McCanns would have been charged with their daughter’s killing and remanded in custody awaiting trial, but this hasn’t been a normal case - the McCanns were allowed to flee (and yes they did flee) Portugal to avoid charge. The Portuguese prosecutor has admitted that his decision to let them leave the country was taken to avoid a diplomatic incident with the British government. The British Foreign Secretary David Miliband, visited Portugal the day before. The Portuguese police were understandable furious since this was clearly a political decision and they intended to charge Kate McCann.
Since the Foreign Office managed to Shanghai the McCanns from Portugal, the Portuguese police have been impotent. They have no automatic powers to re-interview the McCanns or their friends, Dr Russel O’Brien, Jane Tanner, Matthew Oldfield and Dr David Payne (who are expected to be named as arguidos), and so far the British police (who do have the power) have refused to do so. The Portuguese police have been forced to wait on further forensic results from the Forensic Science Service laboratory in Birmingham, those results have been inexplicably delayed.
The British Government intervention is extraordinary, not only did the current Prime Minister and Foreign Secretary put pressure on the Portuguese government, the Foreign Office also lent the McCanns the despicable Clarence Mitchell, a top government spin doctor, and the McCanns have been able to hire the Government’s favoured mercenaries, ICG. Not something they would do for every Labour Party activist, but then Gerry McCann isn’t every Labour Party activist, he is a very well connected and eminent cardiologist, who happens to sit on the medical ethics panel of COMARE.
If the McCanns never face trial in Portugal, it won’t be because they’re innocent, because on the evidence in the public domain, they’re as guilty as hell! That’s why they fled Portugal.
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I think people pushing grand theories about the Madeleine case should think back to some of the theories that briefly ran around the time of the Soham case.
Some posters on the Urban75 website were joined by the anti-semitic crackpot who does Revelation Tapes, Dave Starbuck, in pushing all sorts of theories, mostly blaming US servicemen based in east Anglia. Huntley was innocent, was being fitted up to protect the image of the US Air Force in Britain etc etc
Come the trial, Huntley's defence was virtually non-existent, the prosecution presented a strong case, and Huntley was quickly found guilty.
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Some posters on the Urban75 website were joined by the anti-semitic crackpot who does Revelation Tapes, Dave Starbuck, in pushing all sorts of theories, mostly blaming US servicemen based in east Anglia. Huntley was innocent, was being fitted up to protect the image of the US Air Force in Britain etc etc
Come the trial, Huntley's defence was virtually non-existent, the prosecution presented a strong case, and Huntley was quickly found guilty.
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That is absolute nonsense, Paul. I was flying high on Urban75 at that time , as dh2u, whilst all the while being chased around by the editor's little fanatical horde. One of my main threads was about the Soham murders, there was another at the time. Dr Jazzz who is one of us, I believe,-I was pushing Huntley's innocence and mind-controlled response, and would still. I never fully held to Vialls' American serviceman's guilt, the whole set up being an iteration of the Maddy thing
Dave Starbuck was NEVER there in this argument (and he is in no way "antisemitic")
Huntley's defence was ludicrous as everyone in the world realised except Huntley himself who accepted his Rampton programming. The defence team would not have allowed it if they were really there to defend him.
Of course I wouldn't expect you to get this. But don't distort the things happening around that time. I was there and know you're talking balderdash
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Dave Starbuck was NEVER there in this argument (and he is in no way "antisemitic")
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At least you didn't disagree with me on Dave Starbuck being a crackpot!
As evidence of his anti-semitism I posit the prominence given to his work in the International Third Position magazine "FInal Conflict" (an NF splinter, the ITP are virulently anti-semitic) plus his ludicrous comments about the 7/7 bus bombing and the Balfour declaration.
That David Shayler joined in with such rubbish indicated the anti-semitic direction Shayler was moving in at the time, something which ultimately was to cause much embarrassment for the 9/11 movement. Still, it was your call.
Oh, and if Starbuck wants to avoid being called anti-semitic, selling a CD "More Bombshells for All - A Study in Treason" with holocaust denier David Irving on it, is probably not a smart move.
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| PaulStott wrote: | I think people pushing grand theories about the Madeleine case should think back to some of the theories that briefly ran around the time of the Soham case.
Some posters on the Urban75 website were joined by the anti-semitic crackpot who does Revelation Tapes, Dave Starbuck, in pushing all sorts of theories, mostly blaming US servicemen based in east Anglia. Huntley was innocent, was being fitted up to protect the image of the US Air Force in Britain etc etc
Come the trial, Huntley's defence was virtually non-existent, the prosecution presented a strong case, and Huntley was quickly found guilty.
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I think the Maddy case has more to do with the Lawrence murder of the early 1990's.
Cases are chosen on their inconclusivity so they can run and run ad nauseum. By running journalists are given free rein to ram through propaganda endlessly. People are divided over an event which we still do not know what actually happened and are forced to take sides.
The 'great and the good' MP's, celebrities, entrepeneurs are seen to take sides. In other words the sewer becomes legitimised as being concerned with some other issue other than the the pursuit of profit, war and death.
To what end its still too early to tell.
A similar story of a missing immigrant child rang for a full 18 months in Greece called Alex. At one point other children were to be detained and charged with his death when no body was even found. This was a clear cut case of trying to suspend normal judicial procedures.
http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2007/05/madeleine_and_alex.php
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I think the Maddy case has more to do with the Lawrence murder of the early 1990's.
Cases are chosen on their inconclusivity so they can run and run ad nauseum. By running journalists are given free rein to ram through propaganda endlessly. People are divided over an event which we still do not know what actually happened and are forced to take sides.
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A reasonable point.
The Lawrence inquiry also gave the state the opportunity to use a highly emotive case to undermine the long established legal concept of double jeopardy.
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| PaulStott wrote: | | conspiracy analyst wrote: |
I think the Maddy case has more to do with the Lawrence murder of the early 1990's.
Cases are chosen on their inconclusivity so they can run and run ad nauseum. By running journalists are given free rein to ram through propaganda endlessly. People are divided over an event which we still do not know what actually happened and are forced to take sides.
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A reasonable point.
The Lawrence inquiry also gave the state the opportunity to use a highly emotive case to undermine the long established legal concept of double jeopardy. |
No doubt about that. There are multiple issues being promoted.
Although my take on the Lawrence inquiry was to create the idea of 'institututional racism' a stick with which to beat every area of the UK into the globalist melting pot which led to severe riots up North...
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| PaulStott wrote: | | paul wright wrote: |
Dave Starbuck was NEVER there in this argument (and he is in no way "antisemitic")
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At least you didn't disagree with me on Dave Starbuck being a crackpot!
As evidence of his anti-semitism I posit the prominence given to his work in the International Third Position magazine "FInal Conflict" (an NF splinter, the ITP are virulently anti-semitic) plus his ludicrous comments about the 7/7 bus bombing and the Balfour declaration.
That David Shayler joined in with such rubbish indicated the anti-semitic direction Shayler was moving in at the time, something which ultimately was to cause much embarrassment for the 9/11 movement. Still, it was your call.
Oh, and if Starbuck wants to avoid being called anti-semitic, selling a CD "More Bombshells for All - A Study in Treason" with holocaust denier David Irving on it, is probably not a smart move. |
I'm personally not into holocaust denial, but I would suggest, Paul Stott, that you don't even know who the semites are or were, and know nothing of Jewish history. I would suggest that you just see Jews as racial Jews and those historically requiring the chosen race return to their homeland as is the given story. I would suggest you are wrong and need to look a bit further if you want to define what is antisemitic. Antisemitism is a whole mixture of racism and fascism and you need to see who's in the game and who is in control. It's certainly not Semites in control, though certainly many might call themselves Jews. Get a grip on the situation, without resorting to the likes of Irving.
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| paul wright wrote: | | Get a grip on the situation, without resorting to the likes of Irving. |
I am not resorting to "the likes of Irving".
The anti-semitic crackpot Dave Starbuck is.
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PaulStott, it never ceases to amaze me how much pleasure you seem to take from the de-railing of threads.
Yelling 'Anti-Semite' is such a useful tool, isn't it? Such a cowardly one too. Puts you squarely in the 'shoot the messenger and bury the message' camp... every time.
As for poor Mandy, not only 'disappeared' but a political football, too? Such is the present state of human compassion, it would seem; at a very low ebb amongst those embroiled in the failing system.
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| Thermate911 wrote: | PaulStott, it never ceases to amaze me how much pleasure you seem to take from the de-railing of threads.
Yelling 'Anti-Semite' is such a useful tool, isn't it? Such a cowardly one too. |
That's his (self-appointed) task isn't it.
I regard Stott as a rather sincere contributor from the Skeptic's Operant Conditioning Unit, unlike his rather more pernicious handler, Larry
That's why I think he's lasted thus far.
He operates the Chatham House rule of purveying the agenda without revealing the source
He is in a sense a victim, albeit with a fair degree of intelligence and insight.
I think he might unravel soon.
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