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Bushwacker
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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:06 am Post subject: Conspiracy Analyst gets it right |
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| conspiracy analyst wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | | conspiracy analyst wrote: |
AL Jazeera is owned by the Emir of Qatar.
It has a direct link to all the Bin Laden videos.
By a strange coincidence the headquarters of the US Middle Eastern operations are also based there. |
Yes, of course, Al Jazeera is completely under the control of the US because it shows bin Laden videos, and accepts their authenticity, and also an authentic independent Arab voice which the US wants to crush when its Kabul office is bombed, a missile strikes its Baghdad office during the Iraq war, killing a journalist, and Bush wants to bomb its Doha HQ. No problem for truthers in believing both things simultaneously. |
We can obviously believe in childrens stories that Bin Laden whilst working for the CIA turned on his paymasters and has been in charge of the worlds most sophisticated terror machine operating out of a cave and that the Emir of Qatar is in reality a follower of Bin Laden so he created Al Jazeera recruiting half of the BBC...
Harry Potter stories are for little kids. So is your 'analysis'... |
Yes, you are quite right to ridicule these ideas, bin Laden with his hatred of the US never worked for the CIA, and it is very doubtful if any of the American money that went to the Afghan resistance through the ISI went to the Arab volunteers, bin Laden's groups, which were funded through Arab sources. The American money went to the Afghan mujahideen groups.
You are also right that bin Laden did not operate out of a cave, at any rate until after the invasion of Afghanistan, he operated out of the extensive and heavily defended Tarnak Farm complex. The idea of him operating out of a cave seems to completely obsess troofers, for some strange reason, as though it were impossible to plan terrorist operations from a cave. However, since he had Tarnak Farm, he never had to.
Do you really think some people regard the Emir of Qatar as an OBL follower? I have never heard that before! |
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| Quote: | | The idea of him operating out of a cave seems to completely obsess troofers, for some strange reason, as though it were impossible to plan terrorist operations from a cave. |
Troofers actually ridicule the notion of Bin Laden in cave as it was the US Government who actually suggested it showing elaborate graphics indicating air conditioned caves. This turned out to be a load of baloney when they actually found the caves which only contained small quantities of munitions. Hence troofers ridicule.
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Bushwacker
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| fish5133 wrote: | | Quote: | | The idea of him operating out of a cave seems to completely obsess troofers, for some strange reason, as though it were impossible to plan terrorist operations from a cave. |
Troofers actually ridicule the notion of Bin Laden in cave as it was the US Government who actually suggested it showing elaborate graphics indicating air conditioned caves. This turned out to be a load of baloney when they actually found the caves which only contained small quantities of munitions. Hence troofers ridicule. |
Yes, the Tora Bora caves turned out to be much less elaborate than had been said, but did the US government ever say OBL planned 9/11 there? I do think so, they said he had retreated there after their invasion. Troofers tend to ridicule the idea of "a man in a cave planning an attack on the mighty USA" which is a bit of a straw man argument. |
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The 'man in a cave' line is often tied to the racist argument that a "few Arabs" could not humble the greatest military power on earth. (Jim Fetzer is a great example of this)
The British based journalist Abdel Bari Atwan met Bin Laden at his complex in Afghanistan in 1996, and found he had pretty much all mod cons. |
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Don't forget "boxcutters! Ha ha ha ha ha ha", another classic troofer sneer.
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| PaulStott wrote: | The 'man in a cave' line is often tied to the racist argument that a "few Arabs" could not humble the greatest military power on earth. (Jim Fetzer is a great example of this)
The British based journalist Abdel Bari Atwan met Bin Laden at his complex in Afghanistan in 1996, and found he had pretty much all mod cons. |
Although the directly racist line as evidenced by almost all Hollywood movies is that Arabs with turbans shouting Allah Akbhar go round blowing themselves up.
The myth of Al Quaeda is such that it magically appears where US forces are eg. Iraq.
The ever changing pictures of Bin Laden, his nose, his face in all the ridiculously produced videos make him a star candidate on Nip Tuck.
Having replaced politics with fairy tales pro-Americans want us to return to some infantil age where stories of magic, ghouls and ghosts enchanted us. The problem with that approach was we left Primary school a long time... One would expect the same for yourself but I wouldn't bet it will happen any time soon. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: Re: Conspiracy Analyst gets it right |
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| Bushwacker wrote: |
You are also right that bin Laden did not operate out of a cave, at any rate until after the invasion of Afghanistan, he operated out of the extensive and heavily defended Tarnak Farm complex. The idea of him operating out of a cave seems to completely obsess troofers, for some strange reason, as though it were impossible to plan terrorist operations from a cave. However, since he had Tarnak Farm, he never had to.
Do you really think some people regard the Emir of Qatar as an OBL follower? I have never heard that before! |
The Emir of Qatar must be an OBL follower as he has a direct supply of US made Bin Laden videos 
I'm not obsessed by a bearded figure whom they allege is an Arab.
I'm more concerned about men in suits operating out of airconditioned offices launching missiles which kill citizens in foreign countries or brainwash people in their own countries.
As such you require the Bin Laden myth to sustain the lie of the 'war on terror' which is nothing more than a terror war by Texan oil gangsters. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| conspiracy analyst wrote: | The ever changing pictures of Bin Laden, his nose, his face in all the ridiculously produced videos make him a star candidate on Nip Tuck.
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Ah yes, I always enjoy that piece of troofer lore, bin Laden is a CIA asset, but when they fake videos of him they have to use other people who look nothing like him. Wonderful! |
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | conspiracy analyst wrote: | The ever changing pictures of Bin Laden, his nose, his face in all the ridiculously produced videos make him a star candidate on Nip Tuck.
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Ah yes, I always enjoy that piece of troofer lore, bin Laden is a CIA asset, but when they fake videos of him they have to use other people who look nothing like him. Wonderful! |
If they have Bush apologists like yourself why bother even using photoshop.
Any old clown will do. |
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Thats true Bushwhacker, but is it any dumber than a war for oil where we forget to steal the oil?
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Bushwacker
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| Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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| conspiracy analyst wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | | conspiracy analyst wrote: | The ever changing pictures of Bin Laden, his nose, his face in all the ridiculously produced videos make him a star candidate on Nip Tuck.
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Ah yes, I always enjoy that piece of troofer lore, bin Laden is a CIA asset, but when they fake videos of him they have to use other people who look nothing like him. Wonderful! |
If they have Bush apologists like yourself why bother even using photoshop.
Any old clown will do. |
More clear thinking and deep analysis, straight from the playground, "If you don't think Bush was behind 9/11, you must be on his side!" |
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Bushwacker
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| pepik wrote: | | Thats true Bushwhacker, but is it any dumber than a war for oil where we forget to steal the oil? |
True, and the invasion of Afghanistan to build a cancelled pipeline! |
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THAT OBL "911? Idunnit" home video he carelessly left out for his former CIA non colleagues was the clincher for me  Could there ever have been a more convincing case for never ending war than that tape?
(Afghan VHS format played on US machines made him look 40lb heavier and afro carribean) |
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If they have Bush apologists like yourself why bother even using photoshop.
Any old clown will do. |
More clear thinking and deep analysis, straight from the playground, "If you don't think Bush was behind 9/11, you must be on his side!"[/quote]
Its the street that makes history not the media or your fairy tales.
Aquainting your brain with the pavement may knock some sense into you but I doubt it. Apologising for Texan oil gangsters numbs the brain cells. |
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Bushwacker
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| conspiracy analyst wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: |
If they have Bush apologists like yourself why bother even using photoshop.
Any old clown will do. |
More clear thinking and deep analysis, straight from the playground, "If you don't think Bush was behind 9/11, you must be on his side!" |
Its the street that makes history not the media or your fairy tales.
Aquainting your brain with the pavement may knock some sense into you but I doubt it. Apologising for Texan oil gangsters numbs the brain cells.[/quote]
Oh dear, as if real life was not difficult enough for "conspiracy analyst" now he has got confused by the board software! I don't really know or care what that waffle about streets and pavements was meant to mean, but I suppose this is a useful warning to us all not to post when you come back from the pub! |
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Oh dear, as if real life was not difficult enough for "conspiracy analyst" now he has got confused by the board software! I don't really know or care what that waffle about streets and pavements was meant to mean, but I suppose this is a useful warning to us all not to post when you come back from the pub! |
Bushlicker,
Life is difficult for Bush apologists like yourself. Try not to hide behind your masters skirt.
You post garbage alleging Bin Laden exists as you saw him on a video which is no different from saying that you read about him and you expect all and sundry to swallow this garbage. You then use the word troofers trying to make fun of people exposing US provocations. |
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An interesting allegation that Bush wears a skirt, is that another "US provocation" perhaps?
Poor old "conspiracy analyst" is going to be embarassed as well as hung over in the morning, I fear! |
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| Bushwacker wrote: | An interesting allegation that Bush wears a skirt, is that another "US provocation" perhaps?
Poor old "conspiracy analyst" is going to be embarassed as well as hung over in the morning, I fear! |
A characteristic of neo-con apologists is to assert anyone that criticises them is crazy or an alcoholic.
That still leaves us with the multiple versions of Bin Laden in the images presented by the mass media of disinformation. Getting personal leads nowhere as I can allege you are on drugs round the clock as only on drugs could someone realistically be a Bushlicker... |
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I hope you will take this constructively: you are a bit incoherent.
The changing Bin Laden story is laughably weak, that's why its never more than a sneer thrown out at random, try to get someone to explain exactly how it makes sense and they slither away or change the subject.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:38 am Post subject: |
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| conspiracy analyst wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | An interesting allegation that Bush wears a skirt, is that another "US provocation" perhaps?
Poor old "conspiracy analyst" is going to be embarassed as well as hung over in the morning, I fear! |
A characteristic of neo-con apologists is to assert anyone that criticises them is crazy or an alcoholic.
That still leaves us with the multiple versions of Bin Laden in the images presented by the mass media of disinformation. Getting personal leads nowhere as I can allege you are on drugs round the clock as only on drugs could someone realistically be a Bushlicker... |
I do not suggest you are either crazy or an alcoholic, but if you post confused messages late at night and get muddled with the board software, it must lead to the suspicion that your mental acuity has been compromised by taking too much of something or other. If however you say that you were stone cold sober and that was your best effort, then so be it.
Now let me explain something, I believe Bush to have been the worst US President in history, who took his country into an illegal war, squandering lives and making his country and the world less safe, but I do not think he was responsible for 9/11. Is that really your definition of a Bush apologist? |
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | conspiracy analyst wrote: | | Bushwacker wrote: | An interesting allegation that Bush wears a skirt, is that another "US provocation" perhaps?
Poor old "conspiracy analyst" is going to be embarassed as well as hung over in the morning, I fear! |
A characteristic of neo-con apologists is to assert anyone that criticises them is crazy or an alcoholic.
That still leaves us with the multiple versions of Bin Laden in the images presented by the mass media of disinformation. Getting personal leads nowhere as I can allege you are on drugs round the clock as only on drugs could someone realistically be a Bushlicker... |
I do not suggest you are either crazy or an alcoholic, but if you post confused messages late at night and get muddled with the board software, it must lead to the suspicion that your mental acuity has been compromised by taking too much of something or other. If however you say that you were stone cold sober and that was your best effort, then so be it.
Now let me explain something, I believe Bush to have been the worst US President in history, who took his country into an illegal war, squandering lives and making his country and the world less safe, but I do not think he was responsible for 9/11. Is that really your definition of a Bush apologist? |
Bush personally couldn't organise a party in pub. Hed be too pissed before it started. The issue is that his regime did it.
Anyone who states the opposite is a Bush apologist. You are one of them. |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes, I thought it might be too difficult a concept for you. |
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | Yes, I thought it might be too difficult a concept for you. |
First you tried hes pissed.
Then the old one about drugs.
Then you moved on about madness.
Now you have arrived at stupidity.
Give it a rest Bushlicker. You only reveal your true self the more you engage and you come out worse off. |
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| I thought there might be some other excuse, but you if you say not, then stupidity is the only explanation left for you. But if it makes you happy to believe, according to whichever theory you are promoting at the time, both that al Jazeera is an American tool and an independent Arab voice that America physically attacks, then go ahead. Just don't expect to convince too many people. |
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| Bushwacker wrote: | | I thought there might be some other excuse, but you if you say not, then stupidity is the only explanation left for you. But if it makes you happy to believe, according to whichever theory you are promoting at the time, both that al Jazeera is an American tool and an independent Arab voice that America physically attacks, then go ahead. Just don't expect to convince too many people. |
During the march to Baghdad with a couple of tanks (pre-arranged military agreement with Saddam) the USA bombed the Bagdad hotel where most of the foreign press corps were. They even killed a journalist.
What did that mean? The shot at their own embedded press? So? It ain't the first time or the last.
But prey do explain to us all how Al Jazeera has half of the ex-BBC journalists working for it even Dimblebore?
Its widely known as the CNN of the Arab world. |
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Half? Can you show me your calculations?
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During the march to Baghdad with a couple of tanks (pre-arranged military agreement with Saddam).......... |
Really? No danger of any evidence for that, I suppose? |
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I see the 'megaphone' crew out in force here. LOL
The Al Jazzeera operation must be denied at al costs this week. Got a false flag coming up very soon?Are we going to glass these upstart Iranians LOL Ahmindejad is one of yours too.
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| rodin wrote: | I see the 'megaphone' crew out in force here. LOL
The Al Jazzeera operation must be denied at al costs this week. Got a false flag coming up very soon?Are we going to glass these upstart Iranians LOL Ahmindejad is one of yours too. |
Anyone got any idea what this is meant to mean? |
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:14 am Post subject: |
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The fact that people disagree with a conspiracy proves that the conspiracy must be true, apparently.
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