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US U-turn on last weeks Hormuz naval incident

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:56 pm    Post subject: US U-turn on last weeks Hormuz naval incident Reply with quote

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=38370&sectionid=351020101

Had a quick scout through the big news sites and this hasn't appeared yet!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just off to work, but it would be a good idea if posters email this article to as many newspapers as possible, nationals and locals, with brief info about the 'Gulf of Tonkin Incident' used by LBJ to massively escalate the Vietnam war, which has been shown by declassified documents to have not occurred.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strait Facts

by Daniel M. Pourkesali, CASMII, 11 January 2008


Iran's release of the video taken on the morning of Sunday January 6th
in the Strait of Hormuz, clearly debunks Pentagon's hype of depicting
a routine patrolling operation by the Iranian Navy as an act of
unfathomable aggression against the United States.

Timing of this so called 'provocation' incident in the Persian Gulf
just before Mr. Bush's trip to the region was also very convenient as
he went on reminding the world and all the client Arab states in the
region during a press conference in Israel yesterday that they must
fear this menacing "threat to the world peace" and prepare for a joint
U.S./Israeli action to deal with Iran.

Some have rightfully compared it with another eerily similar
'incident' in the Gulf of Tonkin on August 2, 1964 when another
government lie started a war leading to over 50,000 American deaths
and millions of Vietnamese casualties.

But several gigantic errors and miscalculations severely undercut this
latest concoction. First, this is not 1964 and thanks to internet
people no longer have to rely on radio, television, and newspapers
version of the events which often report such official claims as
absolute truths.

Second, Iranians unlike their American counterparts do remember and
have learned quiet a bit from their history with the United States
especially in the aftermath of the 1953 CIA coup which put an end to
their budding democratic government.

The amateurish video audio hodgepodge released by DoD to bolster U.S.
claims has instead raised more questions and exposed the U.S.'s
hostile intent rather than portraying it as victim of the Iranian
mischief. According to a report published in the New York Times,
unnamed Pentagon officials are saying that the threatening voice heard
in the audio clip which was recorded separately from the video images
and merged together later by the Navy, "is not traceable to the
Iranian military".

That voice spoken in an unfamiliar accent was the dead giveaway for
many Iranians including this writer that the video was a hoax. To the
contrary, the Iranian version appears realistic with audio and video
perfectly synchronized in what appears to have been shot with an
ordinary camcorder most of us are familiar with. The Navy men speak in
a very familiar accent while going about their business of patrolling
and identifying ships sailing in or near Iranian territorial waters.

Here is the text of the conversation that took place between the two
patrolmen on the Iranian Navy speed boat as translated from Persian:



0:07 #1: "Announce its position"

0:30 (Patrolman #2 calls the other by name with a reference to need
for safety procedures)

0:45 #1: "Slowly get a little closer… can't make out the ship number"

0:50 #2: "Did you get it?"

0:51 #1: "Yeah, it is not clear"

0:56 #1: "Wait just a moment"

0:57 #2: "It is better now"

1:16 #1: "Is it 73?" (Boat proceeds to pull a little closer)

1:32 #1: "I hear something being announced from its loudspeakers, what
is it saying?"

1:50 #1: "I think they're talking to us"

2:35 #2: "Channel?" (Getting ready to establish radio communication)

2:36 #1: "16"

2:37 #2: "What was the ship number?"

2:38 #1: "73"

2:40 (Then patrolman #2 starts the radio communication in English)



Wouldn't the U.S. Coast Guard be doing exactly the same if a Russian
or Chinese war ship sailed into the Gulf of Mexico just off the
Florida coastline?

At the very end of this 5 minute video one of the Iranian patrolmen is
heard reciting the ship's position: "26 and 30 minutes north and 0 and
56 minutes east" and the American ships are shown sailing away west
without incident.

Welcome to the Persian Gulf.


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Links:

[1] http://www.politube.org/show/341

[2] http://www.politube.org/show/340

[3] http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB132/

[4] http://www.politube.org/show/339

[5] http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/degrees-of-confidence-on-u s-iran-naval-incident/?hp

[6] http://www.politube.org/show/341
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: US withdraws Iran provocation accusation - Press TV Reply with quote

And in the m.o. of fascist news editors it may never appear.

WyldeChylde wrote:

Had a quick scout through the big news sites and this hasn't appeared yet!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly is Press TV? The Iranian BBC?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What exactly is Press TV? The Iranian BBC?


Hardly. Unlike the BBC, PressTV seems to stick to the facts in its reportage. The English version of this site started up last year as a 'Pentagon nonsense' busting operation.

http://www.presstv.com/

It's rather 'stiff' but I haven't caught any blatant propaganda as yet.

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Press TV takes revolutionary steps as the first Iranian international news network, broadcasting in English on a round-the-clock basis.

Our global Tehran-based headquarters is staffed with outstanding Iranian and foreign media professionals.

Press TV is extensively networked with bureaus located in the world's most strategic cities.

Aims

Press TV aims to offer expansive news coverage, specifically delving into Middle Eastern current affairs.

Press TV delivers unbiased reporting of controversial global news, as well as broadcasting cutting-edge documentaries and programs of political, social, and economic importance.

Press TV aims to adduce in-depth and complete analyses of current affairs, portraying viewpoints, which are often ignored by current mainstream media outlets.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last weeks major 'war provocation' is proved a hoax so the caught-lying news editors have suddenly lost interest in the story!?!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, considerin the furore that was made about it, it has disappeared from the front pages of big news stations - fox, cnn, bbc, sky in the space of a few days.
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