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jfk Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Were there homing devices, for example, in these rooms that guided the planes to their targets? |
sounds a bit far fetched, easier to not use planes. |
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Jack Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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no...it was probably easier to use remote controlled planes and homing devices.
still, great comic timing, jfk. |
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jfk Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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easier to use a guided missile, then add in planes on the video.
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rodin Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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jfk wrote: | easier to use a guided missile, then add in planes on the video.
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I think your arguments about no planes @ WTC are silly
I think your tone of posting is disruptive and dogmatic. 'This is so - I am right - you are stupid for thinking anything else'
Truth does not need such belief bullying.
Let's see - do you think 911 was done by Israelis and Neocons? Or who? _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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Jack Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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jfk wrote: | easier to use a guided missile, then add in planes on the video.
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even if it would have been easier (which it wouldn't have been), there's no evidence of that being the case. |
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zennon Moderate Poster
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Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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"Anonymous", sounds like disinfo, and evidently it's working... |
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jfk Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | I think your arguments about no planes @ WTC are silly |
i think remote control planes, homing devices and such theories are silly |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:56 am Post subject: |
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jfk wrote: | Quote: | I think your arguments about no planes @ WTC are silly |
i think remote control planes, homing devices and such theories are silly |
Well frankly, given your sole purpose is as an NPT repeater and multiple spammer of Shack's nonsense, your evidence-free opinions formed mainly from ignorance don't really carry any weight. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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jfk Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:57 am Post subject: |
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where is the evidence for homing devices on 911?! |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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jfk wrote: | where is the evidence for homing devices on 911?! |
There is no direct evidence for them being used on 911.
However your objection is based on the 'theory being silly', when such related targeting systems direct nearly every precision guided munition in use today. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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jfk Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | such related targeting systems direct nearly every precision guided munition in use today |
including jumbo jets? |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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jfk wrote: | Quote: | such related targeting systems direct nearly every precision guided munition in use today |
including jumbo jets? |
Including anything using computerised flying controls (or 'fly by wire' systems which the 767 and 757 families employ) _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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jfk Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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chek, if planes with homing devices hit the towers, how do you think the pilots of these planes were overcome. |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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jfk wrote: | chek, if planes with homing devices hit the towers, how do you think the pilots of these planes were overcome. |
What is the actual point of such speculation? _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Taking the hypothetical situation that RC was employed - why would the pilots need to be "overcome"? If you can fly a plane by remote control (which you can - the control is so precises that you can even land planes on runways and take them off by RC) it shouldn't be rocket science to disable the onboard controls.
The Fakerysmith tactic of trying to build a case for anything but NPT being unbelievable is as much of a joke as their attempts to build a case for their own theories.
"I find the idea of RC unbelievable"
Why?
"It's far fetched"
Why?
"I don't think they could do it"
Why?
"It would certainly be difficult"
STOP SPAMMING AND MAKE A COHERENT ARGUMENT OR JUST SHUT THE F*CK UP WOULD YOU?
We KNOW it is perfectly possible to control planes by RC - it has been for decades. WHY exactly is it unbeivable? _________________
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Why risk real planes? what if one plane missed a tower then that would really put the PTB in the * after the bomb went off. |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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Stephen wrote: | Why risk real planes? what if one plane missed a tower then that would really put the PTB in the * after the bomb went off. |
What 'risk'?
Why would they miss?
And how do we know there weren't a dozen more planes in a holding pattern somewhere to make sure? _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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chek wrote: | Stephen wrote: | Why risk real planes? what if one plane missed a tower then that would really put the PTB in the * after the bomb went off. |
What 'risk'?
Why would they miss?
And how do we know there weren't a dozen more planes in a holding pattern somewhere to make sure? |
Things can go wrong. what about if the planes hit a different part of the biulding then the area planed? So you might have an Big Boeing hiting one side and a explosion on the other side wouldnt that look strange?
The point is that if the homing device failed or what ever could of been used then that would leave the PTB in the Sh*te! Much esyer to insert a fake plane into the TV screen and let the Media spin the tail, and then get Bush and co repet the words Planes hitting WTC so it sinksdeep within our concisness so people belivie the lie. |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Stephen wrote: | chek wrote: | Stephen wrote: | Why risk real planes? what if one plane missed a tower then that would really put the PTB in the * after the bomb went off. |
What 'risk'?
Why would they miss?
And how do we know there weren't a dozen more planes in a holding pattern somewhere to make sure? |
Things can go wrong. what about if the planes hit a different part of the biulding then the area planed? So you might have an Big Boeing hiting one side and a explosion on the other side wouldnt that look strange?
The point is that if the homing device failed or what ever could of been used then that would leave the PTB in the Sh*te! Much esyer to insert a fake plane into the TV screen and let the Media spin the tail, and then get Bush and co repet the words Planes hitting WTC so it sinksdeep within our concisness so people belivie the lie. |
Stephen, I can't help feeling that you probably know nothing about electronics, video or TV and yet you blithely carry this belief that inserting a fake plane into a live TV stream is easy.
But leaving that aside, why should two or even ten planes not have crashed into the WTC if it had 'gone wrong'?
It was only a bit of fantasy cover for the demolition after all.
Maybe you should carefully re-examine exactly who's the one being fooled by lies. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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If it was being piloted by RC why would it miss?
You can land a plane on a runway with remote control - a far more complex manouver than hitting any chosen part of one of the twin towers.
Your problem is you seem to have completly erased all the difficulties and near impossibilities from the scenario of fakery - the thousands of witnesses, the complete control of all ameteur video taken from a radius of miles, the complete control of every single journalist, not to mention actually inserting the planes live in the first place. That's without even getting into the issue of how they use a bomb or missile to create damage which matches the planes perfectly (a point you jokers continue to avoid).
It's the most elaborate and risk-laden idea anyone could ever imagine - also one of the most whacko sounding which is exactly why it was devised and distributed among the gullible to discredit this movement.
Planes can be landed perfectly on a runway by RC - you accept this I presume? So why is the risk of flying one into a tower any way greater than the pitfalls in your scenario as detailed above. _________________
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | why should two or even ten planes not have crashed into the WTC if it had 'gone wrong'? |
If ten planes were alouded to hit the WTC then a large amount of people strait away would be asking were the hell was theair force? They woulnt get away with ten planes. Even if I'm wrong on the No Planes then why would they mess around with the video background with a real plane aprouching the second hit on the tower? |
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | So why is the risk of flying one into a tower any way greater than the pitfalls in your scenario as detailed above. |
Because the technolagy from the RC plane could lanned anywere and that
wreckage would give the game away. As an Inside Job! To Risky fella. |
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chek Mega Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Stephen wrote: | Quote: | why should two or even ten planes not have crashed into the WTC if it had 'gone wrong'? |
If ten planes were alouded to hit the WTC then a large amount of people strait away would be asking were the hell was theair force? They woulnt get away with ten planes. Even if I'm wrong on the No Planes then why would they mess around with the video background with a real plane aprouching the second hit on the tower? |
Different brands of cameras with different properties, biases and colour balance settings being operated by different cameramen at different angles to the light ... I mean come on Stephen. Get your thinking cap on!
And p.s. even with only the four planes, many people are still wondering where the hell the Air Force was.
And why USAF top dogs Myers and Eberhart were promoted instead of imprisoned.
(That's rhetorical by the way. Participants in a coup always promote themselves afterwards). _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Ah so a small computer in the plane somewhere might just come out of the towers unscathed and not be collected by the feds - a risk so huge they calculated it was FAR safer to assume that noone within a radius of miles would point a video camera at the twin towers, except their plants of course, therefore allowing them to control all footage? The risk of storing enough jet fuel inside the building to cause the explosion? From those of you who have had the guts to try and explain how the damage was caused I've heard talk of "winches and jacks" being used to bend the steel inwards in the midst of a raging fire - but that's a tiny risk compared to some passing computer expert who might pick up a torn up piece of plane wreckage from the streets of New York and take it home to study?
Please mate, blink, take a deep breath, and take a good look at what you're saying. _________________
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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Stefan wrote: | Ah so a small computer in the plane somewhere might just come out of the towers unscathed and not be collected by the feds - a risk so huge they calculated it was FAR safer to assume that noone within a radius of miles would point a video camera at the twin towers, except their plants of course, therefore allowing them to control all footage? The risk of storing enough jet fuel inside the building to cause the explosion? From those of you who have had the guts to try and explain how the damage was caused I've heard talk of "winches and jacks" being used to bend the steel inwards in the midst of a raging fire - but that's a tiny risk compared to some passing computer expert who might pick up a torn up piece of plane wreckage from the streets of New York and take it home to study?
Please mate, blink, take a deep breath, and take a good look at what you're saying. |
I'm not saying I've got all the answers mate, but I'm saying they could use video Fakery. |
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Stefan Banned
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I know you aren't Stephen and I appreciate that - but for such an outlandish idea there needs to be more than just "they could" there needs to be some evidence, some solid indication that they actually did - otherwise you are making a mockery of 9/11 Truth. _________________
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I know you aren't Stephen | Stefan I think your wrong mate |
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