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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:55 am    Post subject: I hate to bring this up but... Reply with quote


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Mute the sound. It has much more impact silent running.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

he suggests the flight path of the plane in shot two, which is totally in the wrong place. i have linked the shot(the same as shot 2 but better quality lots of times) i really cannot be bothered to go of looking for it again, although it should be on this site somewhere.

the deception just gets worse and worse as you go along, when i see a honest video that shows video fakery then i'll believe it.

take note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQTsiLX3XbA

black boarder. poor quality

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaTs_hSbI8Q

no black border. better quality.

black border = hide the plane entering shot.

why? because that way you will not notice it, especially if the quality is poorer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh2FazZmvuE&feature=related

the first two links are both live and both being broadcast on different stations, the plane is visible in both if you look in the correct place, both examples are of chopper 4, the only difference between the two is that one station cuts to a different camera just prior to impact, but then cuts back to chopper 4 once its realised something has just happened.

play both videos together at the same time by shrinking the windows so they are side by side, for a comparsion of how much the black border obscures.

the rest is simple prespective, luckily i have discovered a gap in the market for 3D doubled lensed prespective viewers, if all goes well i should be marketing them in a few years time. i think they are needed.

suggestion: don't let the video suggest if the rooflines are the same, check yourself. imo i saw a part of the roof top in one shot, in the other shot i saw none of the roof top, it was just suggested we could see it with a pink box.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made some measurements

http://www.contrarianthinker.com/NPT.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rodin wrote:
I made some measurements

http://www.contrarianthinker.com/NPT.htm


i apologise if i sounded sarcastic, it was'nt aimed at you but rather the video.

i was certain the prespectives were very different as shown in your link.
i just wish i was able to demonstrate what it is i was explaining also.

what programmes do i need in order to do the same type of thing? how do you take still captures of video and apply lines or arrows etc?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky 54 wrote:
what programmes do i need in order to do the same type of thing? how do you take still captures of video and apply lines or arrows etc?


Hi Marky, you can pause the video and then hit the 'shift' plus 'alt' plus 'print screen' keys to copy the active image window into memory. 'Shift' and 'Print Screen' will copy your whole desktop image into memory.
Then open a graphic program such as Paint or Irfanview or Photoshop or whatever, click 'Edit' and then 'Paste' and the image is there for you to add lines or text to.
That's if you're using Windows that is. If you're using a Mac, you might have to enquire further to discover what vile, foul method that goes against all nature Mac owners have to contend with.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah i did'nt realise it was that simple. thanx for the info.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How come your sig reads so much like mine Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How come your sig reads so much like mine Wink


Becuase we are all one infinate consciousness yadda yadda yadda?

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How come your sig reads so much like mine Wink


Becuase we are all one infinate consciousness yadda yadda yadda?


Dinna push yr luck...

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually on the subject of consciousness and the cosmos...
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How come you are conscious NOW when the earth is billions of years old? What are the odds of you being able to read this? Of you being alive?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How come you are conscious NOW when the earth is billions of years old? What are the odds of you being able to read this? Of you being alive?


I always find that an interesting question: how do we know the odds arnt one-to-one even?

Anyway, another section for that: or even another forum!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How come you are conscious NOW when the earth is billions of years old? What are the odds of you being able to read this? Of you being alive?


I could paraphrase St Hicks here and say something about infinite consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, but that'd probably be too obvious.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The odds anomaly I cannot explain other than it leavens the prospect of death, for me at least.

How fitting it would be if the elite find a way to 'cheat' death and end up forever on the wrong side of a door....

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