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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Video: Dr Judy Wood, Madison, Aug 2007 |
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She is a very nervous speaker compared to the charming men of the sensible truthers...
You would not choose her to sell anything.
I think she is may be a little autistic or aspergic. She has social unease, is very nervous in front of the audience.
Not media savvy. Therefore unlikely to be a shill IMO
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Problem I have with Prof Woods is that she makes some good points but then uses fallacious and disingenuous arguements to try and dispel important issues such as molten metal. I dont see the point of her trying to dispel the belief of molten metal unless she feels it undermines her own hypothesis in some way. She says men working down a hole prove there was no molten metal in the basement. All that proves is that there was no molten metal where those men were working (not the same thing). On her website there was a picture of rescue workers around a hole at night. A bright light came from the hole in which a workman was standing or peering into and she says that therefore couldnt be molten metal. She was quite right it was obviously task lighting in the hole helping the search and rescue.
I have sympathy with her view that more than conventional demolition explosives were used but she spoils it with other nonsense like NPT
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I tend towards the something extraordinary being used to generate the colossal heat detected and maintained for long afterwards.
What really gets me though is that Wood whitters on about the steel being dustified when it's obvious that it was everything but the steel that was pulverised and turned to dust.
With the figures and the photos here http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13077
I'm fairly satisfied there wasn't any missing steel - yet that's her thing.
What caused all that dust though, is still the question.
Mammoth amounts (i.e truckloads) of radiation-free thermal compounds and high explosives in conjunction with strategically placed charges is my rational guess.
But the additional complete pulverisation of people, machines, fittings and furnishings is troubling.
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| Quote: | | I have sympathy with her view that more than conventional demolition explosives were used but she spoils it with other nonsense like NPT |
How do you explain the different coloured blackgrounds of the aleged planes hitting the towers? ie the purpule shot etc.... And the wing less planes? |
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| Stephen wrote: | | Quote: | | I have sympathy with her view that more than conventional demolition explosives were used but she spoils it with other nonsense like NPT |
How do you explain the different coloured blackgrounds of the aleged planes hitting the towers? ie the purpule shot etc.... And the wing less planes? |
How do you explain that you are still so easily gulled by stuff that was explained years ago?
http://questionsquestions.net/WTC/review.html
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| Quote: | | I tend towards the something extraordinary being used to generate the colossal heat detected and maintained for long afterwards. |
I dont think there was any heat. Just because we saw smoke that doesnt mean there was heat.
| Quote: | | What really gets me though is that Wood whitters on about the steel being dustified when it's obvious that it was everything but the steel that was pulverised and turned to dust. |
that's wrong there was lots of dustification just lookat the pictures the amont of rumble left was not from 110 storeys. Were's the steel beams? What was left shows no were near the amount on debrie that should of be there. |
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| Stephen wrote: | | Quote: | | I tend towards the something extraordinary being used to generate the colossal heat detected and maintained for long afterwards. |
I dont think there was any heat. Just because we saw smoke that doesnt mean there was heat. |
Stephen, there are satellite thermal images proving there was massive heat. Why are you in such denial of actual evidence to support an inane theory?
| Stephen wrote: | | that's wrong there was lots of dustification just lookat the pictures the amont of rumble left was not from 110 storeys. Were's the steel beams? What was left shows no were near the amount on debrie that should of be there. |
This thread says you're wrong about that too: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13077
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| Quote: | | How do you explain that you are still so easily gulled by stuff that was explained years ago? |
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Will you at lest admit there is TV Fakery going on in the mean stream news? |
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| chek wrote: | | Stephen wrote: | | Quote: | | I tend towards the something extraordinary being used to generate the colossal heat detected and maintained for long afterwards. |
I dont think there was any heat. Just because we saw smoke that doesnt mean there was heat. |
Stephen, there are satellite thermal images proving there was massive heat. Why are you in such denial of actual evidence to support an inane theory?
| Stephen wrote: | | that's wrong there was lots of dustification just lookat the pictures the amont of rumble left was not from 110 storeys. Were's the steel beams? What was left shows no were near the amount on debrie that should of be there. |
This thread says you're wrong about that too: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=13077 |
These Nasa pictures could be faked, I notice that the spots are all but gone within a few weeks but I'm sure I've watch an interview were the firemen are saying where was molten in Oct or Nov 2001 wouldnt this find it's way down that big hole Judy Wood talks about? After all that's ment to be a big hot spot and yet people can climb down there with a ladder wouldnt they get burnt? |
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| Quote: | The new Dimona micro nuke was the very first critical weapon that could be used in “stealth” mode. Gone was the dirty Uranium 238 reflector, and up went the purity of the smaller Plutonium 239 core. You see, Plutonium emits only alpha radiation, which for all practical purposes is “invisible” to a standard Geiger counter. If you do not believe me then ask the American Environmental Protection Agency, whose staff will confirm this.
In direct contrast with its more deadly cousins beta and gamma, alpha can travel only a few feet and is incapable of penetrating human skin. If you can afford an incredibly expensive and highly specialized Muller tube or similar, you may be able to detect tiny amounts of alpha directly outside the Sari Club, though you will more than likely be defeated in this quest by the Bali environment.
Remember that this micro nuke was a tiny weapon in terms of critical mass, with its limited number of particles distributed over a very wide area. You will have to be within five feet to detect a single particle, and most may have already washed away. Bali lies in the Monsoon Belt with frequent heavy showers, and the Sari Club is located less than 200 yards away from the surf at Kuta Beach, which is where the monsoon drains in Kuta main street flow into the ocean. One week on from the blast, detection may already be too late.
Though the alpha particles cannot penetrate the skin, such radiation is extremely hazardous if inhaled or ingested, because Plutonium is the most toxic substance known to man. If you breathed in a mouthful immediately after the blast you would be dead in less than an hour, perhaps within minutes. If instead you breathed in a single microgram, you might last for as few months. Anything in-between is on a sliding scale.
The most dangerous time for burns victims as I understand it, is known as the “golden hour” immediately following the burn event. It is in this short critical time period that medical staff have the best chance of stabilizing the victim and hopefully accelerating his or her recovery. Nobody was helped medically this quickly in Bali because the resources simply did not exist. Thus those suffering excessive burns and/or shrapnel wounds alone, would certainly have perished during the waiting period.
The next most critical period is when being physically manhandled from the scene and eventually evacuated to hospital in another country. If you manage to survive this second critical period and are suffering only burns and shrapnel injuries, your chances of long-term survival are extremely high. An air-conditioned hospital with every facility available in a western country, is a far cry from lying without help in the bomb debris of Kuta Beach.
Despite this intensive care in a variety of different western countries, several of these victims have died quite suddenly and inexplicably under the latter favorable circumstances. Just how many in total we will probably never know, because governments in general have a common interest in preventing their citizens from ever finding out they were exposed to a critical nuclear weapon. It is not difficult to imagine the panic this news would induce in the general population, and even less difficult to envisage the torrent of legal actions against government from survivors and bereaved relatives alike.
The distinctive pattern of the “vanished” victims, and the later sudden inexplicable deaths, provides a match for those following the Nagasaki Plutonium blast in Japan. Of particular note is the total number of “vanished” citizens, for those who vanished were certainly not restricted to westerners. Earlier this week a single Balinese kampong [village] buried seven empty coffins, and this was only one of at least a dozen different kampongs that provide labor to the clubs and shops in Kuta Beach.
It was a moving ceremony barely covered by the western media, at which the headman of the village told an Indonesian journalist, “We know that we will never be able to find any parts of their physical bodies, but this ceremony will help their families to live in peace.” So a crowd of simple Balinese villagers know that their loved ones had been 100% vaporized, but the western public is deliberately left in the dark for political reasons.
On a more encouraging note, it must be emphasized firmly here that very few of those survivors burned in the blast will actually die from internal alpha inhalation or ingestion at this late stage. Common sense dictates that ninety-percent of those close enough to ground zero to inhale or ingest an appreciable quantity at or immediately after the point of criticality, are most probably already dead.
This is particularly good news for hordes of political and law-enforcement idiots, who could be seen wandering around the heavily contaminated Bali crime scene without even the basic precaution of paper face masks covering their noses and mouths. Paper face masks are not designed solely to prevent the inhalation or ingestion of alpha radiation. Paper masks should always be worn during the first week at any major crime scene when parts of decomposing bodies and associated vermin are present, especially in the tropics. Any deaths which later result from this criminal negligence, will be the direct responsibility of their supervisors. |
http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm
More I look at this more it matches the profile of 911. Especially the bit about copious amounts of water hiding the evidence for radioactive product
Thoughts?
Also - connect Dimona, MOSSAD, researcher killed...
Wood AND S Jones as disinfo?
Wood supplies freefall truth and beams, not micronukes
Jones adopts themite truth and thermate, not micronukes
But if micromukes are around and being used in Bali, then they are standard ordnance for black ops. Ops don't come much blacker than 911.
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| Stephen wrote: | | Quote: | | How do you explain that you are still so easily gulled by stuff that was explained years ago? |
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Will you at lest admit there is TV Fakery going on in the mean stream news? |
No sorry Stephen, I don't see any technical fakery.
What I see is misdirection and optical illusions exploited by conmen.
As I've stated before, TV Fakery occurs at the editorial level (i.e. what gets shown and what doesn't) rather than the technical level.
Not a single example of 'TVFakery' that I've seen so far has stood up to serious examination.
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| Quote: | | Not a single example of 'TVFakery' that I've seen so far has stood up to serious examination. |
There has been examples of TV Fakery.
Heres one http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7171374.stm |
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| Quote: | More I look at this more it matches the profile of 911. Especially the bit about copious amounts of water hiding the evidence for radioactive product
Thoughts?
Also - connect Dimona, MOSSAD, researcher killed...
Wood AND S Jones as disinfo?
Wood supplies freefall truth and beams, not micronukes
Jones adopts themite truth and thermate, not micronukes
But if micromukes are around and being used in Bali, then they are standard ordnance for black ops. Ops don't come much blacker than 911 |
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If it was Mini Nukes then this would have badly damage the bath tube and flooded lower Manhaton, but the bath tube surfered minor damage if any. |
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One example, and that was detected within seconds.
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