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PercyPenguin Minor Poster
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Having met him, I'm not sure Brian Haw is all there.
The police can see this, and still they assualt him.
Disgraceful. |
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Frazzel Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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it is not a level playing field. socpa is a contravention of our human rights. stop criticising the protestors which the msm love doing. anywayhow do we know if there werent any agent provocateurs? ie those in the crowd who are paid by the police, secret services, to cause trouble which can then be blamed on the protestors. nothing justifies Brian's injuries by the heavy handed tactics of the police. _________________ "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" Martin Luther king |
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andyb Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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fish5133 wrote: | Sorry guys but after watching the video from what i can see most of the cops behaved in quite a restrained and sometimes polite manner when obviously confronted by some protestors wanting to deliberately spark off trouble to get publicity.
Obviously some of the scuffers bully boys lost their rags
Can someone explain what the guys lying down in the road were doing apart from obstructing it
I am all for the right to protest but they do get hijacked by other not so peaceful elements.
Quote: | After meeting up in Trafalgar Square it was decided to go for a walk in 'Our streets'. |
The streets are not just the protestors streets but every other member of the publics streets who have the right to passage on them without obstruction.
All that said wish Brian Haw speedy recovery and hope they nail Mr Plod who did it. |
the police did act okay for the most part and I have no bones with them and chatted to quite a few about Peter Power and the ICCA 2001. It was the TSG who came in and were forceful. No demonstrators retaliated. The sitdowns were good forms on non violent civil disobedience. Imagine if STW had said on the big anti war march, everybody sit until your government agrees not to go to war. We would not be in Iraq now!! _________________ "We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.” Martin Luther King |
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Frazzel Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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quiet agree about NVDA (no violent direct action) andy, - more such NVDA needs to be done. BTW correct me if im wrong, but the TSG are composed of and hence are part of the police! you cant just join the TSG. First you have to be trained as a police officer. imk sure that not all police officers are happy with the way our civil liberties are being violated or such heavy handedness by the TSG anyway. good idea to try to have a dialogue with police with a conscience. _________________ "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" Martin Luther king
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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g PercyPenguin wrote: | Having met him, I'm not sure Brian Haw is all there.
The police can see this, and still they assualt him.
Disgraceful. |
That's a personal opinion and, as you admit, does not justify either beating him up or trying to stop him from continuing his protest against the mass murder in Iraq and Afghanistan which this government has unleashed in contravention of the law.
What are the standards for deciding whether or not someone is "all there"? Being persistant and steadfast in pursuing a campaign for peace and justice at great personal discomfort is certainly abnormal. If that constitutes being "not all there" then neither were Ghandi or Jesus and that is indeed how the authorities viewed them.
Brian has become a national icon of protest against the War on Terror and any attempt by the police to harm him is a definate own goal. |
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Frazzel Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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those who 'arent all there' are those who think its o.k to beat up peaceful protestors.
those who 'arent all there' have no compassion or conscience for all the hurt, the killing, the devastation they cause. _________________ "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" Martin Luther king |
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andyb Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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I have a relation in the met and know that the normal coppers don't rerally like the TSG. A lot of them are ex military. I don't agree with the one size fits all attitude a lot have for the cops. At the end of the day if we are gonna change things we need a critical mass and this will include the cops. Much better being rational and polite and provide them with good information about their paymasters. _________________ "We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.” Martin Luther King |
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utopiated Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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fish5133 wrote: |
Can someone explain what the guys lying down in the road were doing apart from obstructing it
I am all for the right to protest but they do get hijacked by other not so peaceful elements. |
What's a minor "obstruction" compared to what's going on on this planet??
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conspiracy analyst Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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According to the papers Brian Haw is to be imprisoned for disrespecting a judge for 3 months? Thats what the Metro I think wrote yesterday?
Did anyone catch that one?
They seem to be doing everything in their power to not allow him to stand for London Mayor... |
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TonyGosling Editor
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
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andyb Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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There is a whole state of corruption surrounding the police and judges regarding Brian and Barabara Tucker. there guys are true heroes and are fighting daily for our rights. Please support them in any way you can. They won't jail Brian as he has too much dirt on the police and judges _________________ "We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people.” Martin Luther King |
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Stephen Moderate Poster
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Sorry guys but after watching the video from what i can see most of the cops behaved in quite a restrained and sometimes polite manner when obviously confronted by some protestors wanting to deliberately spark off trouble to get publicity.
Obviously some of the scuffers bully boys lost their rags
Can someone explain what the guys lying down in the road were doing apart from obstructing it
I am all for the right to protest but they do get hijacked by other not so peaceful elements. |
Sorry I didnt see anything wrong with this demo there was no violence by the demonstrators and the police had control the protesters.
Quote: | Can someone explain what the guys lying down in the road were doing apart from obstructing it | They were standing up for freedom of speech. |
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TonyGosling Editor
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gareth Suspended
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: |
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TonyGosling wrote: |
Veteran peace protester Brian Haw arrives in Oxford, the UK, for a debate - after walking there from his camp outside parliament in London. |
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uselesseater Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:13 am Post subject: |
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So who is running the campaign? Is there any promotional material? I can arrange for some t-shirts to be printed. _________________ www.wytruth.org.uk
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xmasdale Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't seem to be clear whether or not he is standing.
At the Stop the War demo against Condi's visit outside Downing Street last Wednesday I was asked if I would support Lindsay German's candidacy for mayor. I replied that I would rather support Brian Haw.
To have them both standing would obviously split the anti-war vote and be good news for the powers that be. A mass of anti-war candidates in Sedgefield who would not co-operate with each other at the general election, successfully split the anti-Blair vote there.
A Lindsay German candidacy, determined as she appears to be not to examine the evidence of 9/11 or 7/7 being false flag operations, would suit the powers that be very well.
Leftist gatekeepers abound. |
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TonyGosling Editor
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Busker Moderate Poster
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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I think the rules of the forum may prohibit me expressing my level of contempt for the Met.
Haw is a bloody hero for what he has done and should be treated as such.
I always make a point of nipping by to say "hello, how's it going?" whenever I have the unfortunate experience of being in London.
It's about time these "officers" were identified and sued as individuals instead of them hiding behind the commissioner. Once they start losing their money they'll think twice. |
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing to do with Boris.
This was our Nazi police. _________________
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TetraGrammatonCleric Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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I agree Brian is a hero...the scum who assaulted him should hang their heads in shame, he's protesting the terrorism of a heavily armed state going up against civilians, in most right-thinking peoples minds he is to be applauded. What the hell is wrong with this country? have the minions of the state seen some of his pictures of deformed children caused by DU munitions..i suppose they think thats fine and dandy. |
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TonyGosling Editor
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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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So your suggesting that Boris told the local Charing Cross police to go and give Brian some agro in the same way that Livingstone used to do?
Ask Brian Haw.
Livingstone used to walk past, phone people on his mobile and then the stormtroopers used to arrive. This happened.
Livingstone was even overheard saying that "i thought you had cleared this mess up" by people there.
So Livingstone had a personal vendetta.
Boris other than saying he is against ID cards, against the SOPCA law and against the detention of people without charge has not, to my limited knowledge, walked past the square and ordered the police to attack.
Whereas we know for a fact Livingstone has. _________________
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paul wright Moderator
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Emmanuel wrote: | This is terrrible news. I can only say im appalled... |
Yup - the shape of Borisland
Arrest and beat the f*ckers up. The residue of Livingstone slimeland
Boris articulates the project a step further
They are all the same process _________________ http://www.exopolitics-leeds.co.uk/introduction |
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David WJ Sherlock Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 8:51 am Post subject: Parliament vigil man is arrested (Brian Haw) |
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Looks like another trumped up law to arrest Brian Haw. This police state is so obvious.
Anti-war protester Brian Haw, who won a court battle to maintain his Parliament Square vigil which began in 2001, has been arrested.
The 56-year old father-of-seven, from Redditch, Worcestershire, was with a fellow campaigner when the arrest occurred, supporters said.
Mr Haw was arrested on suspicion of obstructing police.
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David WJ Sherlock Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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We know what their pledges/promises mean. Borris or the coalition. All part of the same 7 headed dragon. _________________ "It's called the American Dream, because you have to be alseep to believe it"
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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I heard Brian was arrested for refusing to allow police to search his tent. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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David WJ Sherlock Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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He has vigorously objected to the Democracy Village protest alongside his own anti-Iraq war demo.[/size]
I was in the square a few weeks ago. I was talking to Barbara. She made it clear they were not welcome. And I have to agree with her. Gareth Newman (I have always felt him to be a dubious character) and the dropouts from that eco village are camped up there. Also the camp is full of what appears to be commies and bums. I am glad they are being kicked off. I think they undermine Brian’s cause. As for Brian. He needs to re-think his attitude a bit. He is acting like he owns the square. I heard him having a go at people for talking while he was talking to his legal brief. That is not on. He could alienate himself from the public. He is to aggressive. _________________ "It's called the American Dream, because you have to be alseep to believe it"
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