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Now, maybe , just MAYBE this has something to do with it (posted on YouTube earlier this year)
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVdwvodPo8
OK, ok - sorry - "damaging the truth campaign" and all that sorry - posting Fox news broadcasts again - oops...
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| Andrew Johnson wrote: | Now, maybe , just MAYBE this has something to do with it (posted on YouTube earlier this year)
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=-yVdwvodPo8
OK, ok - sorry - "damaging the truth campaign" and all that sorry - posting Fox news broadcasts again - oops... |
When does science fiction become science fact?
This was just like the defence shield on Starship Enterprise
Oh dear it is possible for science fiction to become science fact
Beam Me Up Scotty - I guess this will be possible one day
For Beam Weapons check this out
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2546559997136793518&q=flash+ gordon |
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| THETRUTHWILLSETU3 wrote: | | This was just like the defence shield on Starship Enterprise |
It's nothing of the kind!
This, so-called, 'force field' is the nexus of two radars and a 'secret weapon' - that hardly constitutes a force field! It is simply a mobile version of the Pentagon's (evidently effective) missile defence system.
Just 'cos the news graphics illustrate this with some kind of a plasma dome don't mean that's how it works! Duh!
Oh! And as we are now citing old movies as factual evidence, can anybody tell me where I can buy a magic boomerang? |
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Whooda thunk 'truthers' would be accepting a cheesy FauxTV graphic as evidence of anything?
Two radar systems and a something sure doesn't sound like a 'force field' to me. It does sound like a big juicy contract for the usual suspects though... |
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I wish we could use a beam weapon on 'Critics Corner' because the rat traps dont seem to be working.
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| prole art threat wrote: | | I wish we could use a beam weapon on 'Critics Corner' because the rat traps dont seem to be working. |
Agreed, too many shills/sheeple getting away with it on this forum.
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For more evidence [as direct as you'll get in this BEAM area unless you're in with the Delta Squad lot of Kay Griggs infamy] also look into
Hutchinson effect - turning objects into new forms, merging organic/synthetic structures by frequency
Cymatics - study of sound and vibration [frequency] on an array of objects/mediums.
...and I'm afraid in none of that research will you find footage of a D.E. Weapon taking down WTC 1 and 2.
- You may find you actually have to put pieces together yourself. Tut. And we all thought the TinTerNEt was useful and instant eh?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: New effects of energy/frequency sources on 9/11 |
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Hutchinson effect - turning objects into new forms, merging organic/synthetic structures by frequency
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After making this link - Judy Wood and John Hutchison get together and publish an excellent article 3 weeks later.
Call is osmosis. Ideas transmitted to our collective research unconscious.
| Quote: | Anomalies at the WTC and the Hutchison Effect
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Judy Wood and John Hutchison
This page last updated, January 12, 2008 |
Most ppl here are going to be eating their narrow-minded words in a few years time. Anyone who wants a wager can contact me for odds with William Hill.
Link to article, videos and images showing comparisons of damage effects on 9/11 to the work of energy genius John Hutchison here:
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/JJ/
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| Quote: | | Most ppl here are going to be eating their narrow-minded words in a few years time. |
if that ends up being the case who cares? if it is true then thats all that matters. im only working from the way people present their evidence and what that evidence proves(without assumption or suggestions).
if they do not present their information in a way that reaches people, i would argue people are not going to see the truth in it, even if it is true.
i have asked numerous questions to promoters of these theorys, which was met with arrogance. ive never been able to move on since as all my questions still stand and are still unanswered.
as a result i just blank anything thats j.woods. i have no intrest in trying to get water from a stone at the expense of being personnally judged and told im not a scientist therefore to dumb to understand. |
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Not narrow minded enough to fall for free energy scam.
I think all of this disinfo is to keep us from looking at this possibility
http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm
Note the bit about the effect of water...
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Despite my nym (and apologies to 'Thermate' as we seem to have switched persona between here and YouTube! ;-), the reason I keep an open mind on what caused the collapses is Tesla's patents and who 'owns' them...
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| Thermate911 wrote: | Despite my nym (and apologies to 'Thermate' as we seem to have switched persona between here and YouTube!  , the reason I keep an open mind on what caused the collapses is Tesla's patents and who 'owns' them... |
Further links please. 
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: New effects of energy/frequency sources on 9/11 |
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| utopiated wrote: | Most ppl here are going to be eating their narrow-minded words in a few years time. Anyone who wants a wager can contact me for odds with William Hill.
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Why so confrontational? And why is Wood's site so full of attacks on :-
Anyone who thinks planes hit the WTC.
Anyone who thinks there were any explosives in the WTC.
Anyone who thinks there were very high temperatures underground.
It is almost as if she wants to create divisions and get people to pick sides .... |
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| Graham wrote: | | Thermate911 wrote: | | the reason I keep an open mind on what caused the collapses is Tesla's patents and who 'owns' them... |
Further links please. |
Scroogle returns at least 50 links on 'Tesla patent'
Here's a fairly bland starter for you:-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Tesla_patents
You might also want to search for articles by Eric 'Orion' Berman for the darker stuff. Try 'Orion Skorzeny' or 'Skorzeny Scherf(f) Tesla'
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| rodin wrote: | Not narrow minded enough to fall for free energy scam.
I think all of this disinfo is to keep us from looking at this possibility
http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm
Note the bit about the effect of water... |
Yup the Bali event is a strange one. I think that was probably nuke as opposed to DEW of some sort.
Check the video called 'Fool me Twice' for an in depth [really in depth!] collection of evidence on the bombing - although I've only managed to get half way thru that thing.... heavy going. 
The WTCs however look like some sort of exotic energy system. Too many weirdities. But then again I remain open to both the mini-nuke AND the exotic energy tech routes... what ppl forget is that everything we discuss are simply models that may bare little resemblance to what actually occurred on the day. Models should always be fluid and updateable and most of all we should all have the humility and strength of character to be able to throw away our models when we find a certain threshold of evidence that makes them null 'n void.
Your map ain't the territory as the late great RAW once said: http://rawilson.com
**I thought Joe Viallis was killed - or is that an oldie article?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: New effects of energy/frequency sources on 9/11 |
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| KP50 wrote: | | utopiated wrote: | Most ppl here are going to be eating their narrow-minded words in a few years time. Anyone who wants a wager can contact me for odds with William Hill.
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Why so confrontational? And why is Wood's site so full of attacks on :-
Anyone who thinks planes hit the WTC.
Anyone who thinks there were any explosives in the WTC.
Anyone who thinks there were very high temperatures underground.
It is almost as if she wants to create divisions and get people to pick sides .... |
The creation of different 'sides' in this community was created long before Judy Wood appeared on the scene. Take a look thru any 9/11 type forum and i bet you'll see those who wanted to draw the line at Steve Jones type conventional demolition debates line up against any info that *appeared* to contradict this such as DEW, Nukes, no planes, TV fakery etc. It all came under this catch all cliche of "you're damaging our movement". I'm not trying to create sides. I just find it sad that the cutting edge of UK thought and discussion seem to like closing down routes of research they don't collectively take onboard.
I think sometimes the so called alt theorists feel they have to shout louder to get their voice heard and more to the point simply get their version discussed.
I agree though about Judy Wood's approach. I think she can be openly confrontational to any opposing view. But there again if you look at what she's been thru to get her ideas out [and she's started one of the first legal challenges to the Govt re 9/11] you'll maybe see that this is just her way of dealing with things.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: New effects of energy/frequency sources on 9/11 |
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| utopiated wrote: | | I think sometimes the so called alt theorists feel they have to shout louder to get their voice heard and more to the point simply get their version discussed. |
Oh but it is discussed - it just never seems to stand up to competent rational examination.
By which I mean a standard of acceptance which doesn't require a leap of faith.
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| utopiated wrote: | | rodin wrote: | Not narrow minded enough to fall for free energy scam.
I think all of this disinfo is to keep us from looking at this possibility
http://www.vialls.com/nuke/bali_micro_nuke.htm
Note the bit about the effect of water... |
Yup the Bali event is a strange one. I think that was probably nuke as opposed to DEW of some sort.
Check the video called 'Fool me Twice' for an in depth [really in depth!] collection of evidence on the bombing - although I've only managed to get half way thru that thing.... heavy going.
The WTCs however look like some sort of exotic energy system. Too many weirdities. But then again I remain open to both the mini-nuke AND the exotic energy tech routes... what ppl forget is that everything we discuss are simply models that may bare little resemblance to what actually occurred on the day. Models should always be fluid and updateable and most of all we should all have the humility and strength of character to be able to throw away our models when we find a certain threshold of evidence that makes them null 'n void.
Your map ain't the territory as the late great RAW once said: http://rawilson.com
**I thought Joe Viallis was killed - or is that an oldie article? |
Vialls was 'died'. Micronukes would be an easier install than thermate for a blast like we saw at WTC. The DNA evidence was prolly planted l8r after the planes were diverted and any passengers not in on it eliminated.
The molten iron pouring out of the building does not make much sense to me - why only one location and at plane hit level? Thermite/mate would be evenly distributed throughout the building
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You can see exactly that in the pics from Bali
Tesla weapons may be disinfo. I suspect so,
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| Quote: | | Tesla weapons may be disinfo. I suspect so, |
Possibly but should they be discounted entirely, bearing in mind the skullduggery surrounding their 'removal from the public sphere'?
How about the documented 'Tesla oscillator' episode, where he nearly shook some buildings to pieces?
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/EclipseLab/Tesla/Oscillator.html
No more unlikely than DEW, IMO...
But we will forever go around in circles, unless of course you can find yourself a useful niche in Strasbourg or the like...the evidence is being 're-assembled' - they're just waiting for another 'Sibel Edmonds' episode, oh and some whistleblown CCTV footage of course...
Here's another Tesla link, FWIW:-
http://www.frank.germano.com/lost_inventions.htm
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