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John White
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 Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: Admin Statement re: IP allegations |
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On Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:53 pm Utopiated posted the following with regard to member Chek:
| utopiated wrote: | | Stefan wrote: | Christy some christmas stupidity to welcome me back.
Ever consider few people have met Chek because there happens to be the small matter of a large amount of salt water between him and most of us? |
Apparently no salt water when his IP addresses are referenced according to a few folk here.
He does spend a *huge* amount of time dismissing alternative theories - but I guess that goes to most posters here. Baaaaaah. |
As is now well known, immediately afterwards Utopiated was requested to either support this allegation or withdraw it
The following day, he posted:
| Quote: | | For the record I have no direct info from mods/admins... ... I reckon if you looked back over the last 12 months posts - you'd find some discussion of Chek's where-abouts and associated agenda for prolific posting... I was merely recalling this from the 9/11 UK NoosPhere. |
We do not find any IP information about Chek present on this forum or anywhere else in the "9/11 noosphere"
We therefore consider the above an admission by Utopiated that he does not in fact have any evidence to support allegations of irregularities in Chek's IP address, nor to support the notion that any IP information about Chek or any other member has leaked from the admin only sections of this forum, and that therefore Utopiated was simply posting what he may have happened to believe at the time, but what is in fact simply not true
We do not take a favourable view of spreading baseless rumours about members and their integrety, and have considered whether a suspension for Utopiated for doing so would be appropriate. However, we consider the embarrassment at being unable to back up his statement is sufficient incentive for Utopiated to be more mindful of his posting in future and have decided to let this matter rest there on this occasion.
It is clear that there have been no leaks of IP information that members have every right to expect to be treated in confidence by present and former members of the admin team. If actual evidence of IP leaks did come to light at any future time we would continue to investigate that evidence rigerously
However, one positive consequence of these events is that Chek's identity and the veracity of his statements about where he happens to live and who he happens to be have been confirmed to the absolute satisfaction of the admin team, and he therefore will be recieving "validated poster" status, to which he is obviously entitled and which is justified
Regards to all
UK 9/11 forum admin team
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chek
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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I'd just like to add a thank you to the mod team for making a clear statement about the security of the forum, for taking the time to satisfy themselves as to my identity/location, and also for granting me the coveted multi-pencil stubbed Volatile Poster status, which I shall do my best to live up to.
I'd also add that my intentions are and always have been to help establish the truth about what happened on Sept. 11, and to assist in the sorting of the wheat from the chaff as regards to establishing the best evidence for what happened on a day that affects us all still.
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Newspeak International
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | However, one positive consequence of these events is that Chek's identity and the veracity of his statements about where he happens to live and who he happens to be have been confirmed to the absolute satisfaction of the admin team, and he therefore will be recieving "validated poster" status, to which he is obviously entitled and which is justified
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The limited Truth of what is seen is to be believed at all costs.Validation poster status will not be made available for posters with alternative ideas,regardless of whether or not one goes out in the community spreading the limited Truth every day.
Chek becomes another inner circle party member,hours of posting on specialist subjects:
No planes
Video fakery
Directed energy weapons
Doesn't leave much time for actually talking to real people that know nothing does it?
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alwun
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:01 pm Post subject: he's the man |
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NI -
Well, "VP" status has just been rendered a bit laughable, has it not? |
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ian neal
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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Well if VP status is to mean anything, it must be divorced from any ideology whether that ideology relates to 9/11 or wider issues. IMO
Now I've met utopiated and as far as I'm concerned he is as 'valid' and 'validated' as anyone else. The moderators (rightly IMO) have decided that he was wrong and in breach of the site rules to post the allegations about Chek and Gruts without being able to place in the public realm any evidence supporting these allegations.
As a consequence the moderators decided to suspend utopiated. I'm pleased to say that this suspension is temporary and (should he wish to) he will be free to post once more after a 2 week suspension, provided there is no repetition of evidence free allegations.
If there is one lesson from this it is that bs threads such as this one should end up in the bin much quicker
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=12984 |
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Newspeak International
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ian neal
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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You are right to point out that example. What can I say? That thread shouldn't have started either.
As you know I'm not involved in day to day moderation although I do retain a veto to change things if I see fit and I do offer my opinion in private.
I'm reluctant to discuss moderation in public, but if there were interest I (and I assume the current moderators) would be happy to use a private section on the website to discuss the forum's management, moderation and future with any long term member/campaigner. Anyone interested PM me and I can set it up. |
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gruts
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it just occured to me that when you move a thread from "controversies" to the dustbin it means that it will appear on the front page of the site (that's what happened after your last post in the thread above for example).
and this might actually encourage the likes of prole art threat to post stuff here that will be transferred to the dustbin - if you see what I mean.... |
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