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 Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:17 pm Post subject: Lift The Veil - NWO Documentary |
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http://www.guba.com/watch/3000111574
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New World Order Documentary - Lift the Veil
Preveiw :
http://www.veoh.com/videos/v3084197czFcK69C?c=openyoureyes
As far as i can see 'lift the veil' is its title 
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Another interesting snippet from Brasscheck: 'Meet The Real Boss'
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/256.html
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That Meet The Real Boss video was very revealing. Look at how Cheney kind of bows slightly when Big Dave gets up to speak. It's a real picture of the master and apprentice. It really makes me sick when public officials talk about how the Rockefellers have made the world a better place.
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And one for the 'Fake Video' brigade (myself included). There is a difference between 'No Planes' and 'Fake Videos', which unfortunately doesn't seem to get through to some, who think that just because someone claims the 'plane' footage was faked, they must automatically believe no flying object (plane or missile) hit the Towers.
As you can see, this footage from Utube does notset out to show that no planes hit, they blather on as though this footage is real, and that the 'magic' plane (a bit like the Kennedy 'magic bullet') really does penetrate the building like a hot knife through butter, scattering nothing of it's substance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCDu2V3yjS4
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Thanks Ravenmoon for posting that link
| Quote: | | http://www.guba.com/watch/3000111574 |
Well worth watching for an hour or so, very illuminating and enlightening if i can use those words.
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| outsider wrote: | And one for the 'Fake Video' brigade (myself included). There is a difference between 'No Planes' and 'Fake Videos', which unfortunately doesn't seem to get through to some, who think that just because someone claims the 'plane' footage was faked, they must automatically believe no flying object (plane or missile) hit the Towers.
As you can see, this footage from Utube does notset out to show that no planes hit, they blather on as though this footage is real, and that the 'magic' plane (a bit like the Kennedy 'magic bullet') really does penetrate the building like a hot knife through butter, scattering nothing of it's substance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCDu2V3yjS4 |
The way I see it, the only correct way to put the "fake video" issue to rest is for truthers who think that there may be something to the idea that some of the footage that appeared in the MSM was falsified to put their own resources toward following up and getting answers. The WTC complex is gone, but other than the Deutschebank building across Liberty St., everything major landmark in every one of those shots is still where it was 6+ years ago on that day. My take on the matter is that it should be possible given the resources (cameras and people with experience in photo/video forensics) to re-take shots from each angle used in the controversial footage, and then take the original shots at ~50% opacity and overlay the 9/11 video on new video from the same location in order to verify:
-Whether the paths of the second plane seen in the MSM clips were physically possible (i.e. make sure once and for all the observed plane did not fly through space where there is a building in the way, etc.)
-Whether the observed locations of all landmarks in each shot match up with actual locations of buildings relative to the camera' location and the WTC towers.
There may not be anything to the "fake video" allegation whatsoever - but IMHO if we are to call ourselves seekers of the truth, we must strive to prove or disprove controversial allegations, not dismiss them out of hand. How can we demand investigation if we are unwilling to fairly and thoroughly investigate hypotheses and allegations coming from within our own movement?
Mind you, I think it is fairly likely that some people on the "fake video" bandwagon may well be disinfo operatives of some kind... but I can think of no better way to expose them if this is the case than to produce conclusive findings one way or the other regarding whether the footage in question depicts physical impossibilities and/or improper location of surrounding buldings. After all, even if you take the position that the fake video allegations are 100% poppycock, it seems it would be desirable to demonstrate this in a tangible and reporducible manner.
I personally am in the process of getting a collection of footage together for this purpose. Myself and a fellow truther are going to find 3 or 4 clips of the second plane from different angles throughout lower Manhattan, and then spend a few hours one day with a camera checking whether local landmarks all line up when we shoot from the same locations. If everything lines up, AFAIC the issue is put to rest. If we find one or more shots where we can say without doubt we are standing where the original cameraperson stood and yet we find that buildings, lampposts, etc. in the shot are not in the right place or at the right angle, then I'd say the matter deserves to be taken seriously.
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