Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 370 Location: Phuket, Thailand
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:37 am Post subject: What Powers the Microwave Generator?
What Powers the Microwave Generator?
I was not able to see the whole clip, without freezes and other glitches, but the sound was clean.
What was totally ignored was the fact that there has to be some form of power source to provide the radio microwaves. If it's only a few watts, that would be fine, but I suspect that it will be a lot more, when the full story comes out.
Many years ago, a guy in Australia rigged up some tuned circuits in his attic, and soaked up the radio frequency (RF) power from a medium-wave broadcast transmitter, converting it into a domestically-usable form.
In those days, commercial stations shut down at 11:00 pm, and the engineer at the transmitter noticed, one night, that the lights in a nearby house went out at exactly the same moment that he pulled the breakers. It happened often enough for him to get suspicious, and the 'culprit' was found and persuaded to disconnect his circuits, and pay for his own power, in the normal way.
There's no such thing as free energy--even using the sun's energy requires an investment in hardware--but this may be getting closer to a very eco-friendly solution, that is if it isn't taken over and suppressed by Big Oil.
The acid test would be to hook an engine, being driven by the flame, up to a generator which would then be used to power the radio-frequency generator. If it worked: Eureka! Perpetual Motion. _________________ The truth won't set you free, but identifying the liars could help make the world a better place.
While the phenomenon is interesting, it is not yet practical for energy generation. More energy is consumed by the radio frequency device than is produced for burning
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 370 Location: Phuket, Thailand
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:07 pm Post subject:
Magnetism is a Force.
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So where does a magnet get its power to repel or attract from?
Of course free energy is possible!
Little is known about what, exactly, magnetic force is. But magnetism is not energy. Magnets and magnetism, however, are used in many applications where the transfer of energy, from one form to another, takes place. _________________ The truth won't set you free, but identifying the liars could help make the world a better place.
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 3889 Location: North Down, N. Ireland
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:27 pm Post subject:
Cruise4 wrote:
"There's no such thing as free energy"
So where does a magnet get its power to repel or attract from?
Of course free energy is possible!
Your willingness to believe on the flimsiest of evidence is slightly alarming.
Electromagnetism is a force that admittedly our understanding barely scratches the surface of, yet in every practical known case the power generated originates from the input of mechanical energy which normally involves an arrangement of a 'rotator within a stator'. We have no known alternatives.
How do you deduce from that starting point that 'free' energy is possible?
I'm seriously interested, if in fact it's anything more than wishful thinking. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
The Steorn Validation Process
Following three years of development, in August 2006 Steorn issued a challenge to the world's scientific community to test our technology and report the findings. The challenge was issued in a full page advert in the Economist magazine. Steorn took this unusual move after several third parties refused to allow private validation tests to be placed in the public domain.
Over 5000 people applied to become involved in the process of validation, including nearly 500 qualified scientists.
The validation process began in January 2007 and is expected to conclude by the end of this year. View
There are a couple of short videos at the second link above. Very interesting and highly elaborate if it is a scam.
It sounds too good to be true - not to mention the fact that it violates almost every known law of physics. But British scientists claim .............
It may (allowing a degree of hyperbole) violate the laws of physics in terms of the electrical energy consumed, but I doubt it violates the laws of chemistry _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
How this 12inch miracle tube could halve heating bills
Amazing British invention creates MORE energy than you put into it - and could soon be warming your home
It sounds too good to be true - not to mention the fact that it violates almost every known law of physics. But British scientists claim they have invented a revolutionary device that seems to 'create' energy from virtually nothing. Their so-called thermal energy cell could soon be fitted into ordinary homes, halving domestic heating bills and making a major contribution towards cutting carbon emissions.
Even the makers of the device are at a loss to explain exactly how it works - but sceptical independent scientists carried out their own tests and discovered that the 12in x 2in tube really does produce far more heat energy than the electrical energy put in.
The device seems to break the fundamental physical law that energy cannot be created from nothing - but researchers believe it taps into a previously unrecognised source of energy, stored at a sub-atomic level within the hydrogen atoms in water.
The system - developed by scientists at a firm called Ecowatts in a nondescript laboratory on an industrial estate at Lancing, West Sussex - involves passing an electrical current through a mixture of water, potassium carbonate (otherwise known as potash) and a secret liquid catalyst, based on chrome.
This creates a reaction that releases an incredible amount of energy compared to that put in. If the reaction takes place in a unit surrounded by water, the liquid heats up, which could form the basis for a household heating system.
If the technology can be developed on a domestic scale, it means consumers will need much less energy for heating and hot water - creating smaller bills and fewer greenhouse gases.
Jim Lyons, of the University of York, independently evaluated the system. He said: 'Let's be honest, people are generally pretty sceptical about this kind of thing. Our team was happy to take on the evaluation, even if to prove it didn't work.
'But this is a very efficient replacement for the traditional immersion heater. We have examined this interesting technology and when we got the rig operating, we were getting 150 to 200 per cent more energy out than we put in, without trying too hard.
People are sceptical - but somehow it works
'We are still not clear about the science involved here, because the physics and chemistry are very different-to everything that has gone before. Our challenge now is to study the science and how it works.'
The device has taken ten years of painstaking work by a small team at Ecowatts' tiny red-brick laboratory, and bosses predict a household version of their device will be ready to go on sale within the next 18 months.
The project, which has cost the company £1.4million, has the backing of the Department of Trade and Industry, which is keen to help poorer families without traditional central heating or who cannot afford rocketing fuel bills.
Ecowatts says the device will cost between £1,500 and £2,000, in line with the price of traditional systems.
The development of the groundbreaking technology results from a chance meeting between Ecowatts chairman Chris Davies, his wife Jane and an Irish inventor, Christopher Eccles, while the couple were on holiday near Shannon in 1998.
After the inventor showed the couple his laboratory experiments, Mrs Davies, immediately signed a £20,000 cheque on the bonnet of her car and handed it over to Mr Eccles.
He later became chief scientist of Ecowatts' parent company Gardner Watts, but has since left after 'falling out' with the company, according to insiders. Sadly, Mrs Davies died three years ago, so she will be unable to share in the success of her husband's development of the idea.
Mr Davies, now 75, of Dedham, Essex, was unavailable for comment last night.
But Ecowatts chief executive Paul Calver said: 'When Jane Davies whipped out her cheque book, it turned out to be a very good investment indeed.
'She and Chris were always interested in ecology and now it looks as if our heat exchanger system is ready to go on sale soon. We're producing a device in the next nine months to heat radiators.
'Most British homes rely on gas, and the Government has admitted there is a problem getting a substitute. Our device will help solve that.'
Sustainable energy expert Professor Saffa Riffat, of Nottingham University, has also led a team investigating the system.
He said: 'The concept is very interesting and it could be a major breakthrough, but more tests are required. We will be doing further checks.'
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Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:33 am Post subject:
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but researchers believe it taps into a previously unrecognised source of energy, stored at a sub-atomic level within the hydrogen atoms in water.
It sounds suspciously like a form of 'cold fusion' _________________ "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." - Euripides
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 12:20 am Post subject:
Amazing how we are suddenly finding things that overturn the conventional laws of physics--- pancake collapse of the towers at freefall speed being one of them. _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
Amazing how we are suddenly finding things that overturn the conventional laws of physics--- pancake collapse of the towers at freefall speed being one of them.
There are no laws of physics, we live in The Matrix which means we can walk through walls if we want.
Interesting site relating to "free" energy. _________________ "The conflict between corporations and activists is that of narcolepsy versus remembrance. The corporations have money, power and influence. Our sole influence is public outrage. Extract from "Cloud Atlas (page 125) by David Mitchell.
How this 12inch miracle tube could halve heating bills
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Jim's formal education was in Technology. He holds degrees in Physics and Engineering and his postgraduate work was in Aeronautics.
After a long spell in the Aerospace Industry, he entered Academia holding teaching, research and administrative posts in various Institutions. Currently he is at the University of York and also holds a Fellowship in Computer Science at the University of Hull.
His association with Ancient Sites dates from his schooldays. As a member of the British Society of Dowsers, he undertakes research into the Geo- and Bio- Physics of Earth Energies. His special research topic is the mechanism of dowsing based on Quantum ideas in Consciousness Studies
Dr. Steven E. Jones demonstrates 8x overunity circuit
Professor Jones has developed a variation of the 'Joule Thief' circuit and has shown that its output is eight times greater than the input as measured by a state-of-the-art oscilloscope. He is open sourcing his solid state design to help speed its development and implementation, as well as to answer the scientific question of where the energy is coming from.
by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
Retired Physics Professor, Steven E. Jones is working on a simple overunity circuit that he has seen go as high as 20 times overunity; documented on a state-of-the-art Tektronix 3032 oscilloscope at Brigham Young University producing eight times as much energy as was required to run the solid state circuit. One of his friends, Les Kraut, has replicated the circuit and also achieved eight times overunity.
As a second and more simple test, Steve let the circuit run overnight, powering an LED bulb; and nine hours later, the input battery was still at the same measured voltage as it has been at the beginning, it used so little power. Normally that would drain the AA battery to around half it's power.
It's just a small amount of power we're talking about - in the hundreds of milliwatts range (just under a Watt), but it's a start.
What is significant about this is 1) the credibility and reputation of Dr. Jones, being something that academic types won't be able to ignore; 2) the rigor of the testing, given the measurement equipment he has access to; 3) the simplicity of the circuit, which is actually open source; 4) the low cost of the circuit components, making it easy to be replicated.
"I don't know where the energy is coming from, but it's coming from somewhere," he said.
1) Steven E. Jones' Credibility
Dr. Jones is the BYU professor who was racing neck-and-neck with Pons and Fleishmann of the rival University of Utah to the north, with his research in Cold Fusion, as mentioned on his profile page at BYU.edu. He is even better known for his documenting in peer-reviewed journals the replete thermite found in the several dust samples from the World Trade Centers, proving that controlled demolition was the cause that those three buildings fell at free-fall and near-free-fall speeds. In our news, we featured a very simple solar funnel that he and his students came up with to help indigent peoples be able to cook with solar power. Obviously, he is not a mainstream professor but is pushing the envelope. He sees the same kind of signs of corruption and oppression in the energy sector that he does in the U.S. government (which gave rise to the attacks on 9/11).
Steve and I are friends, having several interests in common, and living in the same valley. I've known he's been working on some free energy research, but he's been hesitant to say anything about it until we talked the other night; and I was able to convince him to let me come document what he has done so far, even though he would have liked to have more data first. Given that he will be mentioning his findings at a presentation he's giving next week in California at the Conspiracy Conference, I was able to convince him that he might as well disclose his results now; breaking his cover that he's held for the last several months on the forums under such usernames as "PhysicsProf" or "JouleThief". And, it would be a good opportunity to plug the conference to our audience.
I was able to visit with Steve and Les on May 26 at Kraut's home to videotape Steve's demonstration of this technology, as well as videotaping Kraut's work with several other Bedini-related systems, including a 3-foot diameter version of Bedini's Ferris Wheel. He also explained an Energy Crystal that Bedini has been working on lately to bring to people's attention as yet another free energy avenue.
Alex Loseman, who has been helping with the greenhouse project on our intentional community project, was with me in our visit with Steve and Les. He is launching a research project that will include replicating, documenting, characterizing, and enlarging on this effect Steve has produced. Though he doesn't have a lot of funds now, with some good results, he has a couple of sources of getting additional investment. After our visit, he was on his way to the airport to pick up another researcher who will be working on this with him.
2) Rigor of Testing
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Tektronix shot showing 8x OU.
Only a minority of researchers in the free energy community have access to and knowledge of how to run an oscilloscope. An even smaller subset have access to university equipment such as the Tektronix 3032 (at 300MHz) oscilloscope. Some people try for years to get some professor to take enough of an interest to validate their findings. In Steve's case, he is a Professor, and he's the researcher, so he's in a very unique position here. So when he says he's documented 8x overunity, it holds a lot more credence than when someone else says the same thing.
In our filming, he said:
"My feeling is that the results with the Tektronix 3032 are quite compelling. That doesn't mean I understand where this energy is coming from. I don't. It certain shows, repeatedly, that the output power is greater than the input power."
3,4) Simplicity of the Circuit; Inexpensive
Here is the two-part video (1 | 2) of Steve explaining his circuit and measurement results as well as ideas for scaling it up. Note how simple the circuit is. I'm guessing we're looking at less than $50 in components and three hours to build this one-off proof of concept circuit.
Here is a schematic image Steve sent me, saying, "there are small but important changes in the resistors and capacitors in the few variations we are studying."
Instructions for the toroid winding.
More info here:
The circuit is a derivation of the "Joule Thief" circuit or a "blocking oscillator". His variation has an LC-circuit feeding into the base of the transistor (which is unusual) which regulates the resonant frequency of the device. He calls this circuit a "boost resonator" because it resonates at a certain frequency, and since the evidence shows that it somehow boosts the input power. "I also found a way to 'tune' the efficiency, n, and to reduce the net input power to nearly zero."
He continues:
With my particular toroid (which was hand-wound), I had excellent results with these conditions:
Vin 2.5 V AA's
Rb 2K ohms
Ro 9.8K
Rr 3.1ohm
MPS2222 transistor
C-B 151 pF
D = red LED
L-B, L-O bifilar 9turns, ferrite toroid 1"OD, 1/2"ID, 7/16" tall; ~90uH each
I(t) by V over 1ohm CSR's (current-sensing resistor)
Open Source:
We'll be posting a PESWiki feature page about this open source project soon.
If you happen to get involved in a commercial version of this open source project, selling plans, kits, components, finished systems, licensing, etc., please remit at least a 5% royalty to Steve's team who is helping disseminate this information.
Hopefully it wont be long before practical iterations of this device are powering endless lighting fixtures, beginning with single LED bulbs; then small electronics; then appliances; then vehicles.
Great - this is the kind of disclosure we've been expecting outside the nebulous realms of Fulford, and a good basis for hobbyists to boot. I note he hasn't specified LED size - I'd start with a 5ma job...
Other names to look out for would be:
John Bedini
G Beardon
? Hutchinson
M Rodin - for vortex math and toroid topology
Waiting for the world of science to finish its love affair with funding and get real about Maxwell, Tesla, Birkeland, Alfven, Thornhill - the list goes on.
www.holoscience.com/synopsis.php - for an overview. _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
"Timely Demise to All Oppressors - at their Convenience!" - 'Interesting Times', Terry Pratchett
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