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karlos Validated Poster
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: Madrid Bombings official case falling apart |
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http://iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/31/europe/EU-GEN-Spain-Terror-Trial .php?WT.mc_id=s_europe_gg_gnrc
I suggest you read the whole of this.
Spains train bombings seems to be becoming more aparant as a massive false flag operation. Renewing accusations the Mossad carried out the attacks as revenge against King Carlos' diplomatic mission to Syria
He said the judges in the case used a narrow approach to the law and warned that Spanish courts would have to change their rules of evidence if the country was to defeat Islamic terrorism.
"Islamic terrorism ... leaves a different kind of footprint," said Reinares, now head of the terrorism studies program at the Elcano Royal Institute, a Madrid think-tank.
The trial was perhaps never going to bring the verdict some were looking for, since the seven men considered the true ringleaders of the March 11 attacks were not in the docks. They all blew themselves up at a safe house on the outskirts of Madrid as police moved in to arrest them three weeks after the massacre. _________________
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astro3 Suspended
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ten bombs went off at around 07.43 in Madrid that morning, on four trains, and then ETA issued a statement at 10.30 denying involvement. Then at 10.50 a white van was discovered with seven detonators, a tape in Arabic and a Koran. The tape was found to consist of a chant of some Koran sutra. Aznar, Spain’s Prime Minister (four days before the elections) then picked up the phone and told a daily paper that ETA had done it: that was his arch-enemy, a Basque separatist movement, with a history of bombs and political assassinations. He had not then heard about the white van story. Later his government appeared unsure who to blame and Aznar urged everyone to go on the anti-terror march – which 11 million did. His government fell because of this wrong, unsupportable accusation (1).
The next day, an Arab newspaper based in London (Al-Quds al something) said it had received an e-mail from an Al-Qaeda group, taking credit and saying it was retribution for Spain’s role in the Iraq war. Then, an Arab videotape was found in a trashcan with someone claiming to be a spokesman for Al-Qaeda in Europe taking credit for the deed. Lastly, an ‘unexploded bomb’ was found with a cellphone detonator, and the cellphone apparently belonged to some Morrocan Arab.
These are the four items implicating Muslims and they sound planted and contrived. I heard a story about government agent who supplied the explosive but that seems to have faded out.
Key features to note are:
* synchronised detonations, at 07.39 am, 07.39 am, 07.40 am and 07.41 am on the four trains (they were an hour later in London).
* a story of Muslim suicide bombers carrying rucksacks, but no witnesses reported seeing Muslims with bulky rucksacks in the Alcala de Henares railway station
* no CCTV Images of 'bombers' and their rucksack loading, at any railway station in Madrid.
* Maybe, bombs placed under the floorboards
(www.vialls.com/myahudi/madrid.html )
* Explosive maybe C4/Semtex, as likewise originally reported for 7/7 – staple ‘Gladio’ explosive.
The recent court case took a ‘just arrest some Muslims’ attitude - ‘The March 11 suspects — both dead and alive — were mostly young Muslim men from a hodgepodge of different backgrounds who allegedly acted out of allegiance to al-Qaida to avenge the presence of Spanish troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, although Spanish investigators say they did so without a direct order or financing from Osama bin Laden's terror network.'
1. R. Minita, Shadow War, 2004. |
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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And of course, not forgetting that the Madrid "event" of 311, or was it 113, followed the American "event" of 911, or was it 119, after an interval of 911 days.
Probably another coincidence. _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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astro3 Suspended
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: |
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The Madrid bombings of 11 March, 2004
Its hard to see any Mossad hand in this. Let's review its main features one more time.
Ten bombs go off at around 07.43 in Madrid, on four subway trains, and then ETA issues a statement at 10.30 denying involvement. Then at 10.50 a white van is discovered with seven detonators, a tape in Arabic and a Koran. The tape was found to consist of a chant of a Koran sutra. This was four days before the elections, and Spain’s Prime Minister Aznar then picked up the phone and told a daily paper that ETA had done it: that was his arch-enemy, the Basque separatist movement, which had a history of bombs and political assassinations. He had not then heard about the white van story. Later, his government appeared unsure who to blame and Aznar urged everyone to go on the anti-terror march – which 11 million did. His government fell because of this wrong, unsupportable accusation (1).
The next day, the London-based Arab newspaper Al-Quds Al-Arabi said it had received an e-mail from an Al-Qaeda group, taking the credit and declaring that it was retribution for Spain’s role in the Iraq war. Then on the 14th an Arab videotape was found in a trashcan with someone claiming to be a spokesman for Al-Qaeda in Europe taking credit for the deed. Lastly, an ‘unexploded bomb’ was found with a cellphone detonator, and the cellphone apparently belonged to some Morrocan Arab. Do these four items implicating Muslims sound somewhat planted and contrived? They may remind one of the trail of Korans etc. found after 9/11, left in hired cars and baggage of the ‘hijackers.’
Noteworthy features are:
* synchronised detonations, at 07.39 am, 07.39 am, 07.40 am and 07.41 am on the four trains (they were an hour later in London).
* a story of Muslim suicide bombers carrying rucksacks, but no witnesses reported seeing Muslims with bulky rucksacks in the Alcala de Henares railway station
* no CCTV Images of 'bombers' and their rucksack loading, at any railway station in Madrid.
* Spanish police forensic experts concluded that the bombs were made from the highly restricted Spanish-made dynamite variant called Goma-2 Eco. This is a type of high explosive manufactured for industrial use (chiefly mining) by Unión Española de Explosivos. It is a gelatinous, nitroglycerin-based explosive widely used within Spain and exported abroad. They estimated that these Madrid attacks had been perpetrated by means of an estimated 120 kg of stolen Goma-2 Eco. But, NB, this Spanish explosive was subject to tough and effective security measures that had successfully prevented ETA terrorists from getting their hands on any of it for over 20 years. That is quite a hefty amount to carry onto trains in the morning rush-hour and not be noticed.
* The man accused of supplying this high explosive turned out to be in possession of the private telephone number of the head of Spain’s Civil Guard bomb squad, Señor Suárez Trashorras – while two other men implicated in the bombings had already been identified as police informers. The number was written on a piece of paper found in the possession of his wife Carmen Toro. The Times, 21 June 2004
* Two police informants were amongst the plotters arrested, one of whom was Mr Rafa Zhueri. He had worked for years as a police informant for a unit of the Spanish Civil Guard: ‘I informed the Civil Guard that the Asturian offered me dynamite’ was a headline (2)
* Bombs may have been placed under the floorboards, of four trains that were ‘first service’ out of the night railyards after overnight servicing and cleaning. Three of the trains had come straight out of the Alcata de Henares night rail depot according to Joe Vialls (4).
* The alleged perpetrators, are reported by the Spanish police as having committed suicide together on 3rd April – thereby rescuing the Spanish tourist industry, as Joe Vialls’ pointed out (3). Thus the event shared in common with 9/11 and 7/7 the myth of Muslim suicide-perpetrators: they are guilty, however no trial is needed to ascertain this, because they’re dead. Reports have their number varying between 5 and 7.
* A suggested numerology in the passage of 911 days between September 11th (9-11) and March 11th (3-11). (5)
Sumarising a highly-restricted military-grade explosive was used, comparable to that used in the ‘Gladio’ operations. No fires broke out at any of the ten blast sites, a fingerprint of the military-grade explosive used. There were several police informers among the perpetrators, one of whom procured this explosive despite the stringent security measures that had kept ETA from doing the same for over 2 decades. This frightful terror op has ‘inside job’ written all over it.
A court judgement of October, 2007 ignored all this and found that Quote: | The March 11 suspects — both dead and alive — were mostly young Muslim men from a hodgepodge of different backgrounds who allegedly acted out of allegiance to al-Qaida to avenge the presence of Spanish troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, although Spanish investigators say they did so without a direct order or financing from Osama bin Laden's terror network (6). | All of the prosecuted are set to appeal and protest their innocence.
[u]References:/u]
1. R. Minita, Shadow War, 2004.
2. El Mundo of 6 May, 2004; Tarpley, p.401.
3. The late Joe Vialls’ version remains an important narrative for the Madrid bombings:
Quote: | Only a few hours later in what appeared to be a chilling and apparently stupid rerun of 9-11, police officers were tipped off by media about a suspicious white van parked near Alcala de Henares railway station, which was then found to contain a handful of detonators, and several Muslim religious tracts on a cassette tape. The names of the five Moroccan 'terror suspects' were provided to the western media by American and Israeli intelligence agencies, thus creating the illusion that Spain would never be safe until these fictional terrorists were caught.
By doing this, America and Israel were ensuring that international fear would destroy Spain's huge tourist industry, which has already suffered tens of thousands of summer holiday cancellations since the bomb attacks in Madrid. The subliminal message to the new incoming Spanish Labor Government was therefore obvious: "Leave your troops in Iraq or we will … destroy what is left of your massive tourist industry." It must be said that the Spanish Spec Ops solution to this massive national threat was ingenious. By faking the explosive 'suicides' of the five imaginary 'terrorists' named by America and Israel, Spain completely neutered this contrived threat, because no tourist on earth is going to be frightened of 'terrorists' who have already died very publicly on international television! | The front wall of the apartment block, in a Madrid suburb, was blown out with light frame demolition charges, after which police reportedly found 200 detonators of the type used in the railway attacks, phew! The number of blown-to-bits plotters is given as 5,6 or 7, in different reports (with suggestions that only 3 were reported on the day).
4. www.vialls.com/myahudi/madrid.html
5. Prosecutor Olga Sánchez discerned a Kabbalistic symbolism in the passage of 911 days, between 9/11 and 3/11 in 2001 and 2004 respectively: Un factor "cabalístico" en la elección de la fecha de la matanza en los trenes EL PAÍS - Madrid - 10/03/2005 "gran carga simbólica y cabalística para los grupos locales de Al Qaeda". But Al Qaeda is supposed to be Arab, and since when did they use the Kabbala? www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/factor/cabalistico/eleccion/fecha/matan za/trenes/elpepiesp/20050310elpepinac_2/Tes/
6. International Herald Tribune, Mixed Verdicts in Madrid terror bombing Trial, 30.10.07 http://iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/31/europe/EU-GEN-Spain-Terror-Trial .php?WT.mc_id=s_europe_gg_gnrc |
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Quote: | Oddly Israel sends three pathologists will assist the Spanish government in identifying bodies from the terrorist bombings in Madrid. |
http://judicial-inc.biz/Madrid.htm _________________ Belief is the Enemy of Truth www.dissential.com |
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astro3 Suspended
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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NATO’s anti-terror exercise ‘CMX 04’ (crisis management exercise) lasted from March 4th – 10th, 2004. Less than 24 hours after this yearly exercise had concluded - themed as ‘designed to practice crisis management procedures, including civil-military cooperation' and working in national capitals – the thing rehearsed then happened, in Madrid.
When the event rehearsed actually happens, it is used as an argument for enhancing the funding of the ‘anti-terror’ agencies. Thus a NATO spokesman intoned, ‘The terrorist atrocities in Madrid, which occurred the day after CMX 04 finished, were a deadly reminder about just how realistic such a scenario could be in the present security climate. It perhaps also served as a reminder of the importance of such scenario work for NATO’s contingency planning and policy development’. Peter Power are you listening? |
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astro3 Suspended
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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COMPARISON WITH ISTANBUL BOMBING
The big yearly NATO anti-terror exercise finishing one day before the Madrid train bombing horror may remind us of something.
In Istanbul, 20.11.2003 the British embassy was bombed: 'Turkish & US Top Military Brass meet one day before Istanbul Attacks' - Global Outlook http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ANA311A.html by Chossudovsky: Quote: | The two Istanbul attacks respectively on the HSBC in the financial district and on the British Consulate were, according to media reports "timed to coincide with President George Bush's state visit to London." The explosions were described by the Turkish press "as similar to those that occurred on Sept. 11, 2001". ..
The attacks took place one day following the completion of the annual Turkish-US Joint Defense Group meeting (17-19 November 2003). The Turkish delegation to this meeting was led by Deputy Chief of General Staff Gen Ilker Basbug, who met his US counterpart US Deputy Chief of General Staff Gen Peter Pace. The mandate of the Joint Defense Group was to discuss issues pertaining inter alia to the war on terrorism.
Basbug also met Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz at a luncheon hosted by Deputy Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff Peter Pace. (Asia Africa Intelligence News Wire, 20 November 2003) He later met up with Assistant Secretary of State Richard Armitage and Deputy National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley. When the attacks occurred, Lieutenant General Basbug was still in the US. He left Washington on the 20th, after holding a press conference. |
I guess none of us know much about the Istanbul bombings - but here's a comment from Margita Lukkarinen of Helsinki, Finland: 'Since Israel went to 'help' Turkey in solving the Istanbul bombing, the story seems to be turning upside down and all vital data seem to be 'forgotten'.
http://100777.com/node/609
I guess the bit we all remember is that the Istanbul bombs went off the day after Bush came to the UK and met Blair, same as with 7/7. |
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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The 13th Rucksack
Comparison with Luton/July 7th: The ‘bombs’ shown in the ABC pictures released on 26th July 2005, supposedly found in Luton car park, were bristling with nails and shrapnel, whereas one heard no mention in any post-mortem of bodies embedded with such. Likewise, hours after the Madrid bombing of 11 March 2004, a ‘dummy’ rucksack containing different explosive material from that used in the ten bombs which exploded, was found, the so-called 13th or ‘Vallecas’ bomb, and this bristled with nuts, bolts and screws. This had a ‘SIM’ card by way of explosive device, that led directly to a group of Muslims, just in time to alter the course of the Spanish election. Recently, (29/30 Jan 2008) Carmen Baladia of the medical forensic service in an interview with Louis del Pino has confirmed that no bolts, screws etc were found in any of the 191 bodies, which undermines the basis on which the Muslims were prosecuted.
Bomb 13 was assembled maybe intentionally leaving the wires unconnected in order to be found unexploded, or maybe the person hastily assembling it after the event did not dare connect the wires.
So, after the hapless Muslims have been given thousands of years' jail sentences, this testimony of Carmen Baladia has effectively demolished the official case. That 13th bag has to have been a setup. Also, it gives another important analogy with our 7/7 studies, because of the clearly-fake bomb-pictures released in America on 26 July allegedly found in Luton, used to frame up the Four. That '13th rucksack' had its timer not set quite right - at 07.40 whereas the 10 bombs went off at 07.43.
Source: Research by Keith M. |
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