Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:39 pm Post subject: Vid - Andrew Gilligan is clueless
Guys check out a video we took of Mr Gilligan back in November. Expected too much from the dude but he was so lame. When I shook his hand it was like a wet lettuce. D'oh!
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:55 am Post subject:
That's unkind Scott.
No journalist is up to speed on everything, and I see Gilligan's excellent work on Rendition, housing, Iraq dodgey dossier etc - as well as getting a prime MI6 mole sacked from the Telegraph as much better than average journos.
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:28 am Post subject:
TonyGosling wrote:
That's unkind Scott.
No journalist is up to speed on everything, and I see Gilligan's excellent work on Rendition, housing, Iraq dodgey dossier etc - as well as getting a prime MI6 mole sacked from the Telegraph as much better than average journos.
But Gilligan was getting loads of information from MI6 himself - hence a lot of his stuff on the dodgy dossier.
He has done Londoners a favour though by getting stuck into Livingstone/Jasper, with some very good research.
One the most extraordinary days in human history, actually happening in his lifetime, and he hasn't done any research on, nor does he appear particularly interested in, 911 alternative theories. He knows how devoius and all pervasive the intelligence services can be, he presumably understands how governments are not all they appear to be, and yet he passively takes the official version of that day, proffered by groups that have profitted from that day, without apparent suspicion.
Journalist?
Please!
And as for "the intelligence services didn't want the war", is he on drugs or something.
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject:
He's got an MI6 agent at the Daily Telegraph sacked and you're slagging him off. How very naive.
Have you ever thought Gilligan may have been scared to death over the whole experience, and have considered himself a target of the same people who killed Kelly?
Journalists are not necessarily always cowards but often shrewd types who know what they have to say and do in order to keep their careers.
If you have committments such as children and family common sense kicks in sometimes.
If this is a judgemental finger wagging side of BBC5 then I'm disappointed. You've picked the wrong person to have a cheap pop at.
There are literally thousands of media people, Gilligan's ex BBC bosses for example, who work to suppress the truth from behind the scenes & never come out of their slimy little holes and therefore you don't even notice them.
Even though he's not a 9/11 specialist he makes it clear that he takes an interest in 9/11 "Alternative Theories" which for many journalists in Britain, not sure what is and isn't real about 911, is as far as they dare to go. And I don't necessarily blame them since there's so much disinfo out there.
One the most extraordinary days in human history, actually happening in his lifetime, and he hasn't done any research on, nor does he appear particularly interested in, 911 alternative theories. He knows how devoius and all pervasive the intelligence services can be, he presumably understands how governments are not all they appear to be, and yet he passively takes the official version of that day, proffered by groups that have profitted from that day, without apparent suspicion.
Journalist?
Please!
And as for "the intelligence services didn't want the war", is he on drugs or something.
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Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject:
Gilligan's ill advised to slag off Livingstone who is doing what he can within an entirely corrupt city. But then the job of the Evening Standard is to protect city interests.
PaulStott wrote:
He has done Londoners a favour though by getting stuck into Livingstone/Jasper, with some very good research.
Tony Gosling:
Journalists are not necessarily always cowards but often shrewd types who know what they have to say and do in order to keep their careers.
If you have committments such as children and family common sense kicks in sometimes.
I spoke to Gilligan after this event expressing my concern that children at Academy schools sponsored by 3es ( www.3es.com ) are actually in the hands of a military company which subcontracts to the pentagon. He said the Academy schools' situation was 'very interesting'. When I reiterated my concerns re military companies running schools in the UK (with evidence) he repeated that he found this 'very interesting'. I suggested it was very disturbing. He has been sent relevant links which prove 3es connection to Aecom. I haven't heard that he has reported this anywhere.
If he does have children, he might find it rather different when they come for his kids...and put them in an isolation unit.
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shrewd types who know what they have to say and do in order to keep their careers
This is how this mess we are in is being perpetuated.
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He thinks 'trained journalist voices need to be heard than others'.
What's he mean by that? How would you ensure that?
What's wrong with letting people read what they want to read?
Seeing as you're so well educated and so skilled you shouldn't have any problem in knocking these internet upstarts into a cocked hat. Or do we need to be told what we should read cause we can't decide for ourselves?
Apart from that typical elitist attitude he seems ok. _________________ www.wytruth.org.uk
No "judgemental finger wagging side of BBC5" here. Just telling it like it is. You know, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it ain't no blooming chicken is it. That was all. Let the concerned citizens decide is the way I see it.
Obviously, personally when asking him, I was aghast at his response to Dr. kelly and 911, however, I was in no way trying to twist people's opinion's in my favour. I think Mr Gilligan did that for me. I promise you I could have been so much more cruel when editing that lecture, least I tried to give a full account. I could have made it solely on 911 and Mr Kelly.
To finish, the bit about the media only being good enough if your wages come from Murdoch or the BBC was sickening. Ok (sorry in advance) here comes my opinion, he's a scumbag, Mr Kelly's dead along with 1,000,000 Iraqi civilians and all he supposeldy care's about is his fuc#ing career, he's only good enough for McDonalds after the revolution. Shame on you Mr Gilligan.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject:
TonyGosling wrote:
Gilligan's ill advised to slag off Livingstone who is doing what he can within an entirely corrupt city. But then the job of the Evening Standard is to protect city interests.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject:
And after the GLC was scrapped by thatcher Ken wrote a book called "If Voting Changed Anything They'd Abolish It" - which explains pretty well where he's coming from.
PaulStott wrote:
TonyGosling wrote:
Gilligan's ill advised to slag off Livingstone who is doing what he can within an entirely corrupt city. But then the job of the Evening Standard is to protect city interests.
But Livingstone has added to, and indeed played a part in corruption.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject:
TonyGosling wrote:
And after the GLC was scrapped by thatcher Ken wrote a book called "If Voting Changed Anything They'd Abolish It" - which explains pretty well where he's coming from.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:09 am Post subject:
TonyGosling wrote:
Actually he's saying the whole shebang is rigged.
Er, but he was an MP for many years, and by any definition, as the Mayor of London, is part and parcel of the system.
If he is undermining the system from within, he is doing a pretty good job at disguising what he is doing.
If there is any rigging going on, it is by the idiots who portray 'Blue Ken" as some form of radical when he is nothing of the sort. _________________ http://paulstott.typepad.com/911cultwatch/
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:19 pm Post subject:
It seems very simple to me.
Anyone in the media who has not examined the events of the day that changed the world during their professional career in journalism, is neither professional, nor a journalist, regardless of how they perceived themselves or what it says on their business card.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:04 am Post subject:
Busker wrote:
It seems very simple to me.
Anyone in the media who has not examined the events of the day that changed the world during their professional career in journalism, is neither professional, nor a journalist, regardless of how they perceived themselves or what it says on their business card.
Anyone who has not seen the light is damned to eternal darkness.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:54 pm Post subject:
PaulStott wrote:
Busker wrote:
It seems very simple to me.
Anyone in the media who has not examined the events of the day that changed the world during their professional career in journalism, is neither professional, nor a journalist, regardless of how they perceived themselves or what it says on their business card.
Anyone who has not seen the light is damned to eternal darkness.
And you wonder why people have begun to label the 9/11 'truth' movement a cult!
That is neither what I said or what I implied Paul.
The key phrase is in bold.
People will draw their own conclusions, but for a so called professional journalists not to even look..... well that is where I call their status into question.
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