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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:56 pm Post subject: Marsh & McLennan, Kroll, Hauer and the CIA
One company which is irrefutably connected to 9/11 is Marsh & McLennan. The connections are numerous, and will take some time to document. Any help in this direction will be appreciated.
If you know who Jerome Hauer is, and something of his role on 9/11, then you should appreciate the significance of his having been the managing director of Kroll which was subsequently acquired by MMC. Any serious 9/11 researcher will know that MMC is the company that took the first direct hit when the 9/11 mass murder began. _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
This is a mind-boggling interview with Lewis Paul Bremer III (who ended up as the pro-council of Iraq.)
On 09/11/01 Bremer was the Chairman and CEO of Marsh Political Risk Practice which had offices in the WTC as did its parent company Marsh USA. They had a total of 1,700 employees assigned to the WTC. Bremer, himself, had an office in the South Tower. Nonetheless, this "counter-terrorism expert" makes no mention of any of this only three hours after the first plane flew directly into seven of the eight floors of WTC 1 occupied by Marsh USA. He is here on television prognosticating about who will turn out to be the culprits, with calm detachment. What is wrong with this picture?
The opinions of Edam Salem and Andreas Strassmeir would be of interest in this matter.
Link _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:25 am Post subject:
And then there's Bremer's life-long associate, Heinz:
_________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:58 am Post subject:
A J7 Research collective has uncovered the following information (J7 acknowledges the lead given to it by the Kelly Investigation Group for this article).
The Hon. Lord Butler of Brockwell, KG, GCB, CVO (United Kingdom)
Master, University College, Oxford
Former Secretary of the Cabinet and Head of the Home Civil Service
Lord Butler has declared in the House of Lords Register of Interests that he receives "regular remunerated employment" from his position on the MMC Advisory Board:
Quote:
BUTLER OF BROCKWELL, Lord
*12(f) Regular remunerated employment
Member, Marsh and McLennan International Advisory Board
So in 2004 Lord Butler was receiving regular renumerated employment from a company (MMC) with a beneficial financial interest (via Kroll) in the Iraq war.
On February 3, 2004, the British Government announced an inquiry into the intelligence relating to Iraq's weapons of mass destruction which played a key part in the Government's decision to invade Iraq (as part of the U.S.-led coalition) in 2003.
The committee met in secret and only its conclusions were published on 14 July, 2004.
Butler (with his vested interest) was always going to exonerate the British Government.
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject:
For some reason, this line of inquiry doesn't get much traction. Though slightly less controversial, the reaction to it is similar to the reaction researchers tend to have regarding the forbidden topic (see other controversies). These two topics are clearly paths to understanding, and seem to doevetail well. The clearest symbol of their interconnection is Lynn Forester Bauer.
My guess is Mrs. "Rothschild" is more of a trophy and conversation piece than a participant, but I could be wrong. The pint is, she represents a tangible connection between the two camps (CFR) and that which shall not be identified by its name. Of course the connection between Heinz and "Rothschild" is sufficient to show a connection between these camps:
_________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject:
Where does Krongard fit into all of this? _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 290 Location: New Albion
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:40 pm Post subject:
I meant more specifically in relation to Kroll, MMC, Heinz, Bremer, Silverstein, Lauder, etc. _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 290 Location: New Albion
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:52 am Post subject:
I'd also be interested in any tangible connection between these guys and Abramoff. _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 290 Location: New Albion
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject:
Here's a keeper: Stephen Friedman
_________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
Joined: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 290 Location: New Albion
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject:
Thanks. That looks worth reading. I will do so after I get some rest. The one thing I don't like about their site is that they are partisan, and therefore then to gloss over the role of Democrats, which is a BIG mistake. _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
"Maurice Sonnenberg is the Senior International Advisor to the investment banking firm of Bear, Stearns & Co. He has focused on Latin American and European political and professional affairs for more than 30 years and has been an advisor in the fields of foreign policy, trade and finance, and intelligence to five Presidential Administrations. He is based in New York and Washington, DC."
"But Greenberg Traurig, the Miami-based law firm that fired embattled lobbyist Jack Abramoff in March 2004, continues to fall farther away from the top rankings it once held. Abramoff was fired and other lobbyists have left the firm. Greenberg Traurig reported $2.54 million for the first six months of the year. It reported $6.8 million and $4 million for the first half and last half, respectively, of 2004. "
I found Sonnenberg while following up on:
"The Cole Investigation
[Kissinger's CFR] Roundtable Meeting
April 24, 2001
Related Project: Henry A. Kissinger Roundtable on Terrorism
Panelist: Maurice Sonnenberg, Vice Chairman, National Commission on Terrorism, International Investment Consultant
Speaker: John P. O'Neill, Federal Bureau of Investigation"
Connection between Roundtable on Terrorism(CFR), The Henry A. Kissinger and John P. O'Neill _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759)
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