Gestapo Watch - Arrested at Gunpoint for using MP3 Player

[TonyGosling]

"The police found me on CCTV and followed me. I got on the bus and the police followed. I was listening to my music so I didn't really notice all the cars behind the bus.
"I got off and started walking home. I saw this cop gesture at me and at first I couldn't hear what he was saying. I turned the music off and they were telling me to put my hands up in the air.
"As I got closer I could see that two of the cops had guns. There were two police dogs there as well. I was searched at the scene then hauled off to the station and interviewed.
"I was really shocked when I saw the guns. They were pointing them right at me. It was a pretty scary experience. I had no idea what was going on.


Man arrested at gunpoint after police mistake his MP3 player for a gun

Armed police held an innocent mechanic at gunpoint when they mistook his MP3 player for a pistol.



Darren Nixon, 28, was arrested and put in police cell for simply listening to music on his way home from work.

The shocked garage worker was then swabbed for a DNA sample, had his mugshot taken and was fingerprinted.....(...............................)

[Ravenmoon]

What would the outcome have been if he were asian

[Busker]

Source?

[telecasterisation]

Having read the original report in full, I have to highlight this as being incorrect;

[Lawrence Phillips]

yeah/.. good point above.. but why did they take his DNA?? was he found guilty of any crime?

[telecasterisation]

[alwun]

so TC,
you remain an apologist.

some fantasist reckons my mp3 player is a sophisticated weapon, and so I end up surrounded by armed polis. A very bad place to be, given their record over the years.
I imagine the polis would have taken the time to notice that they had been rendered overkill silly by some donuthead who pointed the finger at this young man.
ie "it's an mp3 player, sarge."

A sincere apology is now in order, given their gun-toting scarifying tactics.

- but no-- it's arrest for you and down to the station for DNA if you please.

Data theft, and right in front of your eyes.

Total BS and no denying that.

[telecasterisation]

[TonyGosling]

click on the picture
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_artic le_id=513875&in_page_id=1770
This story wasn't in today's Mail

[TonyGosling]

There is just one word to describe telecasterisation: 'pedantic'.

At the weekend an oil platform was evacuated because a woman had dreams it might be blown up.

The police in this country are losing all sense of proportion and depriving people of their rights on chinese whispers.

You have deliberately missed the point again tele. in robotic fashion. If I had my way you'd be history here. I suggest people just ignore your trivia and irellevancies.

Maybe you should get some kind of shill of the year award? Maybe we should invent one specially for you?

[TonyGosling]

if you believe this you'd believe anything
It's called normalising the Gestapo tactics

[alwun]

TC

what you omitted to point out then, is that

[uselesseater]

The police should have a more measured response in the light of the 'intelligence' they were going of.

I remember how they raided the house at forest gate on the strength of the word of a heavily retarded man.

Having DNA taken as a matter of procedure is no defence whatsoever. At the very least the police could offer to remove his data as an apology is worth nothing.

[alwun]

hi uselesseater,
I am charmed by your delightful euphemisms. For 'raided' I read savage invasion. The polis shot a member of a large household in the chest. A household composed of all ages, from babies and toddlers to the elderly grandparents.
Was the trigger happy savage charged with attempted murder? arrested? fingerprinted? eh?
TC what do you say to that? eh? When has a polis guilty of murder EVER been even admonished? EH?
Custodians of the law?
LOL

[telecasterisation]

[alwun]

Hi TC,

indeed I did solicit your opinion, although not as elegantly as your prose suggests. I acknowledge your point about the good/bad apples etc. I have in my time met a number of thoroughly decent and intelligent polis. Nevertheless an innocent person now has an awful potential stain on his character for NO reason at all, and it is this unbalanced equation which disturbs me. That's all.

cheers Al..

[telecasterisation]

One key issue I failed to include;

The set processes that are followed are laid down for the police to follow, they do not formulate them themselves. It isn't a handful of PC's in the canteen thinking up new procedures and implementing them. In my experience, most police officers would dramatically streamline the entire clunky blizzard of minutiae.

However, the key point here is that having followed the arrest/processing sequence, the police have no facility to remove DNA samples from the NDNAD. This is administrated and run by the FSS (Forensic Science Service), which I believe comes under the jurisdiction of the Home Office.

If the police could press a button and remove Darren Nixon's DNA/fingerprints and image but refused to do so, I can appreciate anti-police feeling being justified - but that is not the case. The police have no control over data removal from the interfaces they have available to them. They were obligated to process him like every other person who is arrested, his data entered the system, end of police involvement.

Unfortunately the system is such that data collection is carried out as the first stage post-arrest, prior to interview and if/wheninnocence is established, the way legislation stands, matters cannot be reversed by those responsible for his arrest, that lies with the courts.

To keep bashing 'the police' for following procedures they have zero control over is just plain shortsighted. They are as much slaves to a system as anyone else.

[911Eyewitness]

[alwun]

Mr Siegel,

the witch analogy is well suited to these times. We are encouraged to see demons amongst us.

cheers Al..

[ian neal]

[TonyGosling]

Actually I quite like our queen even though she's been a helluva duffer over the War on Terror. It was that eugenicist of a husband of hers Field Marshall Phil the Greek that has been wielding the dark hatchet destroying all things good.

The lack of education and culture in the US which is only relatively recently beginning to darken our fair shores means the establishment on the other side of the pond is less well dug in.

Changing the establishment here in Britain is almost impossible. And what with the direction we're being pushed at the moment I'm glad about that.

[fish5133]

Man arrested at gunpoint after police mistake his MP3 player for a gun


This all stems from the mistake made by senior people in our government and intelligence services that Iraq had WMDs when in fact it was an Aspirin factory.
Liverpool police also confused a central heating boiler in a loft for a cannabis factory.

Lets face it we all make mistakes.