The Asian Tsunami - another Bush inside job?

[karlos]

You may have all seen this, but i only just read it and it made something i suspected suddenly come to light.
I was very concerned with the Asian Tsunami because the US evacuated Diego Garcia without passing the warning on to anyone else. Dose that mean they clearly had advanced warning. Or could it mean that they actually carried out a detonation of a nuke to triger the whole thing.
The French seen to suggest they did but make up your own opinions.

[ishaar]

[karlos]

Dont forget over 100,000 muslims died during the Tsunami.
And reconstruction contracts and the world bank stepping in means that the same guys who have been yanking the world's chain for the last 100 years were again the main beneficiaries.

But as Ron Paul the presidential candidate said the actions of the USA has blowback consequences and the fact that the eastern seaboard also lies in the path of a Tsunami will have not gone unoticed.

Then again they might do it themselves just to get the reconstruction contracts again.

Mega-tsunami: Wave of Destruction
BBC Two 9.30pm 12 October 2000
The growing concern is that the ideal conditions for just such a landslide - and consequent mega-tsunami - now exist on the island of La Palma in the Canaries. In 1949 the southern volcano on the island erupted. During the eruption an enormous crack appeared across one side of the volcano, as the western half slipped a few metres towards the Atlantic before stopping in its tracks. Although the volcano presents no danger while it is quiescent, scientists believe the western flank will give way completely during some future eruption on the summit of the volcano. In other words, any time in the next few thousand years a huge section of southern La Palma, weighing 500 thousand million tonnes, will fall into the Atlantic ocean.

What will happen when the volcano on La Palma collapses? Scientists predict that it will generate a wave that will be almost inconceivably destructive, far bigger than anything ever witnessed in modern times. It will surge across the entire Atlantic in a matter of hours, engulfing the whole US east coast, sweeping away everything in its path up to 20km inland. Boston would be hit first, followed by New York, then all the way down the coast to Miami and the Caribbean.

[utopiated]

For some time a certain researcher [who's name I forget but I think it was a female and well qualified..] has gone round lecturing at her own cost because she has analysed the tsumani signature wave [as in frequency] and found it didn't have the regular feature directly AFTER the event that a geological event would have done.

It's also interesting if it is "man" made because Xmas time and boxing day seem to be favourites for "natural" events like this. If you check records in the last few years I think I found 3 on/about this time.

[Mark Gobell]

Recent Boxing Day "events":

26.12.2003 - Iran Earthquake Bam

26.12.2004 - Asian Tsunami

26.12.2006 - Edinburgh Earthquake

26.12.2006 - Taiwan Earthquake

26.12.2006 - Nigeria, Abule Egba fuel pipeline explosion

[Mark Gobell]

The late Joe Vialls has this on the Tsunami:

[rodin]

Vialls seemed to blot his copybook with his reporting of the Soham murders. His story looked like disinfo. I weighed his Tsunami story with this in mind. I was left unsure either way.

Since then the sheer scale and horror of this monster has become clearer, and I would now say I support the idea that the Tsunami was artificial.

Who has info on the Soham murders that might support Vialls on that? And was Vialls not adjudged a 'contaminated site' by troofers - or was that also a psyop?

The mantle of Vialls seems to have been taken up by the likes of Judicial-inc and Hufschmid. Deep, original and unusual analysis and information. How credible are these sites?

It is important never to get wedded to a stock deal or a conspiracy site. Either could be a psyop. Not one site can be 100% trusted. The only one you can trust to be at least TRYING to get to the truth is yourself. Therefore divining truth is all about sifting information and determining the quality of that information.

Getting back to the tsunami, the seismic record is inviolate. If it matches an atomic explosion but not a natural quake, then we must conclude that the atomic event was the likely candidate. Couple that with

1) It can be done
2) It was profitable for the perps
3) They have no thought for human life (some say derive pleasure from its taking)
4) They wrote about this kind of thing 60 years ago

I would say it is a done deal. It all depends on how conclusive the seismic evidence is...

[karlos]

There is alot of research on a number of sites to suggest alot of people believe America engineered the Tsunami.

Is there any way to research if there is radiation traces near the ocean floor which would confirm a detonation took place.

India, and Indonesia have the technology to verify this for sure and take action against the US in retaliation.

[rodin]

[utopiated]

[Long Tooth]

[utopiated]

[rodin]

Disinfo is very important to recognise at least as a possibility. It can waste so much time, and we have little. Sometimes it is obvious (stargates and other scifi nonsense - though doubtless one or 2 on this forum will fall even for this cr*p) but there is an area where the info is interesting, sort of credible, and can add or subtract from our knowledge. Vialls often gave us a good story and thesis, not always backed by verifiable evidence. I found him intelligent, apparently informed and entertaining. Nevertheles I would not take a single story from his site as gospel. He might provoke me into further corroborating research, though.

I am inclined to agree with a lot of what he posted - Yvonne Fletcher - very likely true, the Fake Saddam - possible but I would want to confirm no underbite in the original Saddam (anyone done this BTW). Yvonne's story fits the profile - Libya being framed by Israel. That's what they did in Tripoli. OTOH Saddam was apparently hanged on cell-phone. You'd have to pay a double a hell of a lot for that stunt...

This is how I weigh evidence you see..

[conspiracy analyst]

[utopiated]

Longtooth - you need to edit quoted responses to save RSI

[karlos]

Does anyone remember Indonesia?
When it was a dictatorship run by Suhatu we supported it and supplied him wewith weapons because he supported us and allowed our companies to exploit Indonesia's resources.
When Indonesia became a democracy it became our enemy.
We then campaigned for East Timor because we wanted the oil.
We campaigned for Aceh independence.
Tony Blair in 1997 sold fighter aircraft to Indonesia.

And the Tsunami.
I wonder if Suhatu was still in power whether there would have been a Tsunami.

[Mark Gobell]

Today's UK floods "you will get a month's rain in a day":

The 666th day since Katrina touched down on 29.8.5

1 day and 19 months since Rita made landfall on 24.11.5

911 days since the Asian Tsunami of 26.12.4

Are we listening now ?

[rodin]

Time for a control experiment

Try looking for the same degree of numerical connectivity with the numbers 2, 44, 77, and 135.... (4 addresses I have had...)

..or similar.

[rodin]

PS this weird weather (coupled with record highs in sunny Italy) is just too good to be true for the Globalists of the warming persuasion.

PPS someone actually spelled out the science behind CO2 warming claims. CO2 ignores UV but reflects IR. UV hits Earth, IR is reflected back (lower wavelength). IR is re-reflected by CO2. Like a Greenhouse. Except. Glass is a UV reflector (try getting a sun tan in a greenhouse). CO2 is UV transparent.

So why do greenhouses warm up inside?

[karlos]

Weather control has been a practice since the sixties and maybe earlier.
The soviets used to spray dry ice crystal dust into the clouds to make the rain fall over the agricultural areas in the sixties.
Tesla used electrical static to interfere with atmosphere and trigger lightning and storms and even generate free electricity way back in the early 20th century.
The cia have conducted many experiments with weather, but as the cia is a totally evil organisation they have tried to se weather as a weapon.
Get a hurricane to attack your enemies.

Yes the rain is exceptionally heavy and the fact that ther has been extensive chemtrails spraying in the UK recently may be playing a part. Global warming - if you believe in it - does not mean a drop more water in the atmosphere because by the law of nature an equal amount of water evaporates as falls as rain or snow - the balance NEVER changes.
If it is raining more in the UK you can bet the droughts in africa will be more severe.

[rodin]

Mark G posted earlier on UK flood disaster time sync since 1954 (I think). Seems there was confirmed cloud-seeding back then but no admission of culpability.

[TonyGosling]

It's the final sentence of this which caught my eye. Is that code for retaliate with some secret nuke beneath the Earth's crust?

Generals to quit if US strikes Iran
Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:49:33
Some senior US military commanders are prepared to resign if President Bush orders a military strike against Iran, a new report says.

“There are four or five generals and admirals we know of who would resign if Bush ordered an attack on Iran,” The Sunday Times quoted Monday a source with close ties to British intelligence .

“There is simply no stomach for it in the Pentagon, and a lot of people question whether such an attack would be effective or even possible,” the source added.

If proven true a revolt on such a scale would be unprecedented because 'American generals usually stay and fight until they get fired,” said a Pentagon source.

Robert Gates, the defense secretary, has repeatedly warned against striking Iran and is believed to represent the view of his senior commanders.

Iran has announced that in face of any aggression it will respond like a 'tsunami'.

[karlos]

It does seem an unusual choice of words.
I sincerely believe the Asian Tsunami was the result of a Nuke.
Perhaps the Iranians and others have also come to the same conclusion. Indonesia certainly seems to be steadily upping the anti American rhetoric.

[utopiated]

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I may have said elsewhere but there is a female academic doing tours with a talk demonstrating evidence that the Sumatran "event" did not contain the usual aftermath signature of a "natural" fault breech. ie: it was a manual job.
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[TonyGosling]

[karlos]

The island of Diego Garcia did apparently receive a warning. This island is home to a US military base from where military raids have been staged against Afghanistan and Iraq. The US base, directly in the path of the oncoming tsunami, was evacuated and reportedly suffered no damage.

No oil tankers or commercial shipping or cruise liners in the sea that day?
Not to mention frigates, destroyers or aircraft carriers.

They knew meaning like 911 it was manmade.

ps:
no pre shocks and no after shocks which is unheard of in natural quakes
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=44898&sectionid=351020606

[TonyGosling]

The answer to that is probably that their tsunami warning system worked! There will have been ships but they would simply rise with the swell then gently settle down again.