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Alulim Validated Poster
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: The WTC2 Stream of Molten Metal |
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This is a work in progress discussing the visual evidence of molten metal flowing from WTC2:
http://baldur.globalsymmetry.com/fact911/wtc2-corner/wtc-metal.html
_________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
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fish5133 Site Admin
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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Is it possible to tell from your studies where the "molten metal" is coming from. e.g. ceiling level, floor level or mid room height. This may determine what materials were available in those locations. Similary if from the ceiling void could it not be a liquid burning from a ruptured service pipe? or a ruptured high voltage cable shorting out (this would probably have switched a circuit breaker so an unlikely scenario)
Do we know who occupied the office from where the material appears to be coming from?
Also could it be anything burning from the remains of the plane or what the plane was carrying (assuming NPT is a non starter) _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12 |
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Alulim Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with the NIST analysis of the location of the source. It appears to have spilled from a sagging floor slab at the top of the window, and had probably pooled on the floor before it spilled out. You can find a discussion of this in the section of the NIST document referenced in the paper. Somewhere there is a stabilized slow motion video of this molten material which shows clearly that it was not some burning. That is also a fairly obvious conclusion from the other stills and videos.
Since the ceiling void had only weak ceiling tiles suspended by flimsy wires, anything flowing from that location can be ruled out. The idea the phenomenon was a result of some kind of high voltage arching, or similar, has, to my knowledge, no precedences nor theoretical support. _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759) |
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Keith Mothersson Angel - now passed away
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 303 Location: Perth
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:03 pm Post subject: Controversial stuff this! |
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Dear friends,
I happen to find this highly improbable.
I agree with Jones and Reynold's Paper here:
http://drjudywood.com/articles/why/why_indeed.html#Thermite
For mentioning these dreaded names will this thread get relegated to Controversial theories?
Even though I find the thread highly controversial = I don't see how such a thing could have happened and suspect videofakery , I personally don't wish for it to be relegated to some Controversial section of this website. Let mistakes, if error this flowing aluminium sequence be, be tackled with reason and evidence, not administrative shuffling.
But this and other articles here prove my point that Tony is operating an unconscious or conscious bias against th work of Woods on weird phenomana of the Hutchison-effect/DEW variety (perhaps) while not shunting off other weird phenomena such as at metal pouring out of a window, then the neighbouring one!?
Please contact me if you agree that Tony's policy should change on this. And/or let Tony know too by pm or some other way. _________________ For the defence of our one worldwide civilian Motherland, against whatever ruling or informal fraternities.
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Pikey Banned
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1491 Location: North Lancashire
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | But this and other articles here prove my point that Tony is operating an unconscious or conscious bias against th work of Woods on weird phenomana of the Hutchison-effect/DEW variety (perhaps) while not shunting off other weird phenomena such as at metal pouring out of a window, then the neighbouring one!?
Please contact me if you agree that Tony's policy should change on this. And/or let Tony know too by pm or some other way |
Yes Keith its gatekeeper editorial journalism and disrespectful imo, certainly not a level playing field. Its controversial based on the judgment of Tony and his team.
I closely follow Andrew Johnsons scientific research on this subject and remain open minded. Andrew deserved better than the unfair and unreasonable treatment he received from Tony and his team.
The common ground though is that none of us believe or support the OCT and that fact alone should enable us to work together in unison in our mission statement..........to expose the truth of 911. _________________ Pikey
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Alulim Validated Poster
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Why don't you specifically address the scientific merits of the paper I posted a link to, rather than changing the subject?
The evidence for the use of thermite in the destruction of the WTC is conclusive. _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759) |
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Micpsi Moderate Poster
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Alulim Validated Poster
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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That "debunking" is complete rubbish. I used to be in Fetzer's Scholars for Truth until I realized it was a fraud.
Glaring Proof of Something Hotter than an Office Fire in WTC2
I challenge anybody to reproduce the recorded phenomenon of brightly glowing molten metal (or any other material exhibiting a similar appearance) using only materials and conditions reasonably present in World Trade Center Building 2 (WTC2) without assuming the presence of some intentionally placed pyrotechnic material such as thermate. _________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." ~ Thomas Jefferson
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." ~ Pennsylvania Historical Review (1759) |
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