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 Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject: New Labour and 'Jewish money'; cause for concern? |
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Rumours abound that John Smith was suicided to make way for war criminal Bliar, under whose rule Brown sold our gold at the bottom to Rothschild.
I just came across this
New Labour and 'Jewish money'; cause for concern?
| Quote: | Thanks for inviting me to speak at your meeting. My name is David Osler, I’m a journalist and author and here today I think mainly because a few years ago I wrote a book called Labour Party plc.
It’s about the development of the Labour Party from what used to be called - in Marxist jargon - ‘a bourgeois workers’ party’ dependent on the trade unions for 90% of its funding to its current reliance on large cheques from the more unsavoury elements of the business community.
Although the book was published in 2002, this is an issue that just hasn’t gone away. Even over the last year, we’ve had the abortive Scotland Yard inquiry into cash for honours allegations, the David Abrahams affair of course, and just this week the resignation of a cabinet minister who somehow ‘overlooked’ his responsibility to declare over £100,000 of donations to his campaign for the Labour deputy leadership. So it’s as topical as ever.
Mostly I found writing the book a straightforward process; one of the few areas that presented me with any cause for concern was the indisputable fact that, at certain stages of the story, Jewish people figure prominently and probably disproportionately.
I was worried that tackling this issue would set me up for misrepresentation. It seems to dovetail with all the familiar anti-semitic tropes about - in quotes - ‘Jewish money men’. And indeed, the book has been quoted by far right websites and Arab newspapers to precisely that effect.
But ultimately I took the decision that if you are writing a serious political book for a grown-up readership, the only option is to tackle this question head on. Anything less would have been intellectually dishonest.
Historically it has manifestly been the case that a considerable proportion of Labour’s business support base - which has always been there, albeit obviously nowhere near as substantial has today - has been Jewish.
There is no need to resort to anti-semitic conspiracy theory to explain this. Large sections of the Jewish community - historically speaking, anyway - in both Britain and the US has tended towards the left. Moreover, many Jews who have succeeded in business been working class lads and lasses made good.
So even in the 1960s, one of Wilson’s closest associates was Lord Kagan, a Litvak émigré raincoat manufacturer to whom he gave a peerage. Kagan was subsequently jailed for corruption.
And of course, one of the Labour MPs of this period was a certain Robert Maxwell, a Czech Jew who went on to own Mirror Group Newspapers; in 1991, he met his death by jumping off his yacht, rather than face the music for defrauding MGN pension funds of over £400m.
1972 saw the formation of the Labour Finance and Industry Group, originally based on around a dozen Labour-supporting businessmen; it offered Wilson informal advice on industrial policy and continued to play an important role under Callaghan.
LFIG - which still operates today - was essentially an extension of the Kagan network. Leading lights include honorary life president Lord Haskel, another Litvak who is president of the Institute for Jewish Policy Research; Sir Sigmund Sternberg and Lord Gregson. Vice-chairman - their choice of designation - include the economist Stephen Gruneberg and Danny Bernstein of Monarch Airlines.
A fair few peers and knights, you’ll notice. Several of these men are known donors to the Labour Party; and it would be unsurprising if others gave money in the 1970s and 1980s, when donations did not have to be declared.
Move the story on now to the 1990s and the so-called blind trust system of fundraising that Labour then employed. The were essentially secret conduits that the rich could give money to, on the understanding that it would be passed on to leading Labour politicians. Beneficiaries of the system included John Smith, Margaret Beckett, Robin Cook and John Prescott.
But most media attention focused on a Sunday Times story from November 1996, outlining the workings of the Labour Leader’s Office Fund, which helped pick up the bills for Tony Blair.
Acting in the role of bagman was Michael Levy (pictured), an East End Jewish music business impresario who inflicted Alvin Stardust and Bad Manners on the nation’s youth back in my teenage years. After selling his record company for £10m, and was then devoting most of his time to fundraising for Jewish charities.
Following a meeting with Blair at a dinner party hosted by Gideon Meir, he began tapping the same milieu, effectively allowing the man who was by then very obviously Britain’s next prime minister to run a sizeable political operation independently of the Labour Party itself.
The Sunday Times named four prominent businessmen as backers of the Labour Leaders’ Office Fund. All four were Jewish, something that did not escape either the Jerusalem Post of the British National Party.
The backers included the late Sir Emmanuel Kaye, founder of industrial vehicles manufacturer Lansing Bagnall, previously known to have funded the Tories; Sir Trevor Chinn, who built up the Lex chain of garages and car showrooms, and who was knighted by Margaret Thatcher; printing millionaire Bob Gavron, now Lord Gavron of course and former husband of London deputy mayor Nicky Gavron; and Granada Television's Alex Bernstein. The Conservatives alleged that Maurice Hatter, chairman of IMO Precision Controls, also gave to the trust.
There are further Jewish connections. The trust's books were handled by London accountants Blick Rothenberg, which also looks after many major Israeli companies operating in Britain.
In other words, the financial support of a layer of individual wealthy Jews was instrumental in providing the independent means necessary for the Blair project to by-pass official Labour Party structures.
The subsequent results of this development included Levy - an avowed Zionist - becoming Britain’s de facto minister for the Middle East, and more recently, the appointment of Blair as Middle East envoy.
But it is crucial to stress that there is no need to resort to conspiracy theory to explain all this. As one source with close knowledge of Labour Party funding in the period told me:
The nexus is not sinister. It is probably the social relations that surround a particular reform synagogue in North London. If you crack that congregational network, you have probably cracked much of the cross-linkage. It may explain some of the anomalies in the fundraising and the unexpected sources of funds traditionally associated with the Tories.
Let’s also note that Labour is not the only beneficiary of Jewish financial support. Tory leader David Cameron’s Jewish supporters include casino boss Lord Steinberg; media executive Michael Green; Simon Wolfson, chief executive of the Next clothing retail chain; and Andrew Feldman, owner of the Jayroma clothing company. The latter is an old Oxford friend of Cameron, and reportedly does a job similar to the one Levy used to undertake for Blair.
So what are the political implications of all this? Are we seeing the emergence in Britain of something akin to the Jewish Lobby in the US, as recently detailed by the new book from Mearsheimer and Walt? Is Jewish support for British politicians influencing British foreign policy?
Sadly for the wingnut brigade, I don’t think there’s any concrete evidence for such assertions. British foreign policy is largely dictated from Washington, and would tend to be pro-Israeli anyway, irrespective of factors such as those outlined above.
Ultimately, I don’t think the issues raised are distinct from those raised by political donations in Britain generally. There is a suspicious correlation between writing six-figure cheques to a political party and receipt of an honour.
Although Lord Levy has ’emerged without stain on his character’ - as the euphemism has it - he might just as well have been flogging ermine off a barrow in Ridley Road market. It really was that blatant, and I do think the democratic left should push the demand for clean politics. After all, if we don’t do it, who on earth will? |
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| Quote: | A good and well-researched presentation, Dave. I particularly like your refutation of the various conspiracy theories about "Jewish finance" and "Jewish influence" that have, for years, befouled the British "left".
You don't go into (and I don't blame you), how tyhe term "Zionism" is now habitually used by anti-semites to cover their tracks.
As for your reference to the Mearsheimer and Walt essay (now book) on 'The Lobby': I can thoroughly recommend Walter Russell Mead's critique in the November/december edition of 'Foreign Affairs' journal, which defend them against charges of anti-Semitism, but criticises them for poor research, confused analysis and insensitive use of "certain literary devices" that evoke "unfortunate memories". I've linked to the piece at 'Shiraz Socialist', or anyone interested can google it.
Anyway: well done, Dave! A good and fair effort on a difficult and dangerous subject. |
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| Quote: | | John Major, said Maxwell had given him 'valuable insights' into the situation in the Soviet Union during the attempted coup. He was a 'great character', Mr Major added. Neil Kinnock, the then Labour Party leader, spoke of the former Labour MP for Buckingham, from 1964-70, as a man with "such a zest for life |
| Quote: | Shortly before Maxwell's death, a self-proclaimed former Mossad officer named Ari Ben-Menashe had approached a number of news organizations in Britain and the United States with the allegation that Maxwell and the Daily Mirror's foreign editor, Nick Davies, were both long time agents for the Israel intelligence service, Mossad. Ben-Menashe also claimed that in 1986 Maxwell had tipped off the Israeli Embassy in London that Mordechai Vanunu had given information about Israel's nuclear capability to the Sunday Times, then to the Daily Mirror, (Vanunu was subsequently lured from London, where the Sunday Times had him in hiding, to Rome, whence he was kidnapped and returned to Israel, convicted of treason, and imprisoned for 18 years.)
No news organization would publish Ben-Menashe's story at first, because of Maxwell's famed litigiousness, but eventually New Yorker journalist Seymour Hersh repeated some of the allegations during a press conference in London held to publicize The Samson Option, Hersh's book about Israel's nuclear weapons. A British Member of Parliament asked a question about Hersh's claims in the House of Commons (with the protection of Parliamentary Privilege which allows MP's to ask questions in Parliament without risk of being sued for defamation), which in turn meant that British newspapers were able to report what had been said without fear of being sued for libel. Nevertheless, writs were swiftly issued by Mirror Group Solicitors on instruction from Maxwell, who called the claims "ludicrous, a total invention". Maxwell then sacked Nick Davies, and just days later, was found dead.[6]
The close proximity of his death to these allegations, for which Ben-Menashe had offered no evidence, served to heighten interest in Maxwell's relationship with Israel, and the Daily Mirror has since published claims, again without evidence, that he was assassinated by Mossad after he attempted to blackmail them.[7] |
Ben-Mashe was almost certainly Joe Vialls
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 10:24 pm Post subject: Re: New Labour and 'Jewish money'; cause for concern? |
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| TonyGosling wrote: | John Smith was not 'suicided'.
I doubt your sources - moving to controversies
| rodin wrote: | | Rumours abound that John Smith was suicided........... |
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Did U know this? I just learned
| Quote: | | John Smith attended Bilderberg as leader of the opposition and opposed their plans for the world, he insisted on bringing a trusted adviser along the next year to help him put his case to the plutocrats but was dead before the next meeting. He is said to have had a heart attack in his flat in the Barbican centre in London. The ambulance took over 30 minutes to reach him and he was only declared dead quite a time after reaching hospital. I spoke to a friend who was at the hospital and he told me it was the only time he'd seen journalists cry. They felt it was a great tragedy for the nation. This possible assassination opened the way for blue eyed boy Blair who had been prepared for years to take over from Smith by party insiders and apparachiks. rian Gould - Smith's right hand man and economic genius then left Britain to take up a University Chancellorship in New Zealand. |
http://shaphan.typepad.com/blog/2006/05/questions_about.html#more
Are you not a student of the Bilderberg?
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And extraordinary it is too. If I may, I would like to build on it a little.
| rodin wrote: | | You even get the single parent meme pushed as a bonus with Rowling. Gotta admire the interconnectedness of everything - a meme whose revelation (tentativley in the Dirk Gently stories - but who knows what new work his publisher saw?) cost another author - Douglas Adams - his life? |
Though Adams is most noted for the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. The most famous meme from that is 42 as the answer to 'life the universe and everything'. Where did Adams get this from?
| Quote: | | 42 is the number with which God creates the Universe in Kabalistic tradition. In Kabbalah, the most significant name is that of the En Sof (also known as "Ein Sof", "Infinite" or "Endless"), who is above the Sefirot (sometimes spelled "Sephirot").[3] The Forty-Two-Lettered Name contains four combined names which are spelled in Hebrew letters (spelled in letters = 42 letters), which is the name of Azilut (or "Atziluth" "Animation"). While there are obvious links between the Forty-Two Lettered Name of the Babylonian Talmud (see further up this page) and the Kabbalah's Forty-Two Lettered Name, they are probably not identical due to the Kabbalah's emphasis on numbers. The Kabbalah also contains a Forty-Five Lettered Name and a Seventy-Two Lettered Name. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42_%28number%29
Could it be Adams was hinting at the plan the Jews (mice) had for us based on their Talmudic tradition?
The earth is destroyed by the Vogons who are most noted for their terrible poetry.
Who else are noted for appallingly bad poetry?
Teenagers.
Teenagers led astray by by the vices of porn, drugs and devilish pounding music (from sexualised pop to satanic metal) - all of these things being, of course controlled by the Jews - will destroy our civilisation. Except Arthur Dent - note the name of Arthur, the mythical saviour king - is present for the 'rebirth' of the Earth after escaping being vivisected by the mice (Jews).
Could the name of his companion - Ford Prefect - be a reference to the need to reestablish manufacturing industry based on good old fashioned traditional values?
Does "mostly harmless" refer to how Jews regard the Goy?
Is THGTTG actually a warning from a man who subsequently 'died suddenly' from a mysteriously unmysterious heart attack?
| Quote: | | Adams died of a heart attack at the age of 49 on 11 May 2001, during the rest period of his regular workout at a private gym in Montecito, California. He had unknowingly suffered a gradual narrowing of the coronary arteries, which led at that moment to a myocardial infarction and a fatal cardiac arrhythmia. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Adams#Death
Shortly before 911. Coincidence...?
| rodin wrote: | | Brown went to Bilderberg before he became PM. He is in a honey trap with the Jewess Sarah. IMO. |
Adams had an affair with Sally Emerson, wife of Peter Stothard, of the times and thus privy to the inner workings of the Jewish controlled media. Did Adams learn from her? Or was she an agent monitoring his research?
Still unconvinced?
There's more.
The (nonsense) film of THGTTG featured the Jew Stephen Fry -
| Quote: | | Fry was born in Hampstead, London, the son of Alan Fry,[1] an English physicist, and Marianne Newman, who is of Austrian-Jewish parentage. His mother's aunt and cousins were killed in Auschwitz concentration camp. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Fry
As well as narrating audio books of pro-witchcraft Talmudic montrosity series Harry Potter and appearing in controlled opposition flick v for vendetta (Hollywood Jews myteriously cut out the references to the Jews having been exterminated in the future UK that appeared in the graphic novel from the film, presumably aware their holohoax is being rumbled), Fry is set to appear in a new film called valkyrie about the plot to assassinate Hitler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valkyrie_%28film%29
This will no doubt further demonise Nazism and bolster the holohoax.
Starring in Valkyrie is Tom Cruise, the Scientologist (Scientology of course being Jew controlled).
Cruise also starred in born on the fourth of July alongside Kyra Sedgwick - another Jew
| Quote: | | Sedgwick identifies herself Jewish;[7][8] A 1996 interview referred to her as "an all-American Jewish WASP actress". |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyra_Sedgwick
And she is married to...?
...Kevin Bacon!!!!!!!!!!
Which brings us to Kevin Bacon in less than six Jew themed moves!!!!!!!!!!!!
You simply cannot argue with evidence for Jewish control of the universe that's this compelling.
Kevin Bacon, of course, also starred in Apollo 13, an attempt to bolster the Jew orchestrated moon hoax.
Is he in the loop? Or caught in a honey trap with the Jewess Kyra Sedgewick? Is it a coincidence his mother is called Ruth - a Jewish name?!?!
| Quote: | | his mother, Ruth Hilda (née Holmes) |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Bacon
I should think this post should well qualify me to join Golden Agora - who wouldn't want to post on a forum with a subsection attractively entitled "war on whitey"?! If only I knew what "war on whitey" is actually being waged, I could help you "join the dots"...all the way to Kevin Bacon each and every time!!!!!!
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Someone should investigate that Kevin Bacon guy.
There doesn't seem to anything or anyone the dots don't connect him to somehow 
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| looks like Dogsmilk has been reading The protocols of the Elders of Zion. |
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| Quote: | | Adams had an affair with Sally Emerson, wife of Peter Stothard, of the times and thus privy to the inner workings of the Jewish controlled media. Did Adams learn from her? Or was she an agent monitoring his research? |
Was she still around when he was Early Deathed?
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| Quote: | | I should think this post should well qualify me to join Golden Agora - who wouldn't want to post on a forum with a subsection attractively entitled "war on whitey"?! If only I knew what "war on whitey" is actually being waged, I could help you "join the dots"...all the way to Kevin Bacon each and every time!!!!!! |
You will find that I argue with some of the posters on Agora if they express views I disagree with.
PS your post was quite enlightening. I knew a fair bit of course - can you find a connection to Newman, Baddiel and especially that rat Ben Elton with his absolutely sh*tty novels?
I think a significant link is books and publishers
PS Tony G - it was you who posted about John Smith being Heart-Attacked. Good info that was about the 1/2 hour wait and the bilderberg connection. Ties in with Levy grooming Bliar
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| rodin wrote: | | Quote: | | I should think this post should well qualify me to join Golden Agora - who wouldn't want to post on a forum with a subsection attractively entitled "war on whitey"?! If only I knew what "war on whitey" is actually being waged, I could help you "join the dots"...all the way to Kevin Bacon each and every time!!!!!! |
You will find that I argue with some of the posters on Agora if they express views I disagree with.
PS your post was quite enlightening. I knew a fair bit of course - can you find a connection to Newman, Baddiel and especially that rat Ben Elton with his absolutely sh*tty novels?
I think a significant link is books and publishers
PS Tony G - it was you who posted about John Smith being Heart-Attacked. Good info that was about the 1/2 hour wait and the bilderberg connection. Ties in with Levy grooming Bliar |
I would have to spend a long time keeping it Jewish (assuming it's possible), but from spending five minutes on wikipedia I can link them all to Kevin Bacon.
Indeed, given Ben Elton has Jewish lineage on his paternal side and is an atheist, calling him "Jewish" would be highly tenuous. And, of course, Rob Newman is in no way Jewish. But then, you'd have to be pretty cavalier to accept Stephen Fry as counting as "Jewish" and who on earth would just accept Scientology is "Jewish controlled"?
Perhaps people playing this lets-link-up-all-the-Jews variant of the Kevin Bacon game should agree on a definition of who actually counts as being Jewish. Maybe they could use the Nuremburg Laws as a template...?
Though Nazi legislation as it was written would likely preclude all kinds of people certain online 'theorists' label as Jewish as actually being counted as such.
1/Newman and Baddiel are obviously linked from the mary whitehouse experience so they kinda count as our starting point.
2/David Baddiel -
| Quote: | | His first television appearance came in a bit-part on one episode of the showbiz satire Filthy, Rich and Catflap. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Baddiel
3/This was written by Ben Elton so links all our starting three as well as providing our next link; it starred Adrian Edmondson -
| Quote: | | In 1993 Edmondson starred alongside Richard Briers in a controversial black comedy called If You See God, Tell Him. Edmondson played Gordon Spry, whose uncle (Briers) is paralysed and has a greatly reduced attention span. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrian_Edmondson
4/Richard Briers had a small part in the 1994 film mary shelly's frankenstein which starred Robert De Niro.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109836/
5/Robert De Niro was in sleepers with...Kevin Bacon!
Just who is this Kevin Bacon guy!!!!!!!??????
Chek is right - he needs investigating. How about a separate Kevin Bacon subforum?
By the 'logic' you employ that you consider has 'meaning', you must be forced to the conclusion that the omnipresent Mr Bacon and his Jewish wife are running the whole show!
...Does anyone actually know where he was on 911?!?
I simply cannot believe (in particular) this Douglas Adams stuff you've been coming out with...if that post on Golden Agora had been made yesterday I could understand...
I am pleased you may take issue with some fellow posters on Golden Agora. I wonder what you make of posts like -
| Quote: | | At base, everyone knows that n*ggers are stupid, but to hear scholars give formulated examples of their stupidity was almost too much fun. |
(referring to having attended the 'racialist' American Renaissance conference)
- I don't see anyone there finding that comment (amongst others) problematic in the slightest which rather speaks volumes about the mindset of the clientele.
And does anyone know why Rodin has been suspended?
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