Double swastika on government site

slower · Minor Poster Joined: 08 Jan 2008 Posts: 48

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Rory Winter · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Two Swastikas Govt Website

Huh? Is this logo from a government website??!!??

karlos · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:38 am Post subject:

Yes it appears this is the work of our Labour government. And it follows on from the Olympic logo which is equally mischievous.
They know exactly what they are doing.

Rory Winter · Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 5:02 pm Post subject:

I'm sure they do. I remember that:

Now again! Gobsmacked ain't the word!

Who are these sh!ts?

We must find out who designed the logo and the website. Then find out whether they designed it of their own volition or were instructed to by Whitehall, if so exactly by whom.

It's a Whitehall-sanctioned header alright!

The observation has often been made that when social-democrats lurch to the Right, as Nu Labor has, they fall into the Fascist camp of corporate capitalism.

(Oswald Mosley was a Labour MP before his fascist adventure)

The Nu Labor Nazi traitors crept in when we weren't looking.

Let's kick them out!

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Petition against the nomination of Tony Blair as "President of the European Union"

Caz · Last Chance Saloon Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 836

Rory Winter · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:38 am Post subject:

Reflecter · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:19 am Post subject:

I cant add the pic but is this (logo top right corner)
http://progov.pm.gov.uk/about/venue/

not just a modified version of the above gov logo, which still manages on the sly to retain the swastika?

It also appears to feature a spear or spike rammed through the head of a hatted gentleman, who's red hat may just be construed as a stereotypical depiction of people working in paddy fields. The spike also depicts the tail of the dragon that it stems from imhho.

Yesterday via this site was a live video conference but judging from the transcript of online Q & A it was totally controlled or purely available for those that love the system and its puppets.

Rory Winter · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:56 am Post subject:

Yes, I can't copy it either so am sending the entire page as a Wordfile attachment.

blackcat · Validated Poster Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 2376

Rory Winter · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:37 pm Post subject:

Thanks, Blackcat. I tried that by right-clicking the mouse but couldn't get the Save Image option. How did you manage it?

blackcat · Validated Poster Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 2376

Open the page with the image on it then press Print Screen button (Printscrn) which sends the current screen image to the clipboard. Open"Paint" in Windows Accessories and press "Edit" then "Paste" puts the image in the Paint window. Cut the part you want to keep and "copy" to clipboard then open "New" file in Paint and paste so you have only that part. Save as a Jpeg file and upload to a free image host such as "Imagecave" then link to it. Sounds a lot but only takes a minute or two.

Rory Winter · Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:18 pm Post subject:

Ah! Many thanks!

Caz · Last Chance Saloon Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 836

Caz · Last Chance Saloon Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 836

WyldeChylde · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Two Swastikas Govt Website

Note the blue/purple background of the left image - it appears to be a slightly-angled square. However with the foreground image placed on top (the arrows and the circle with pertruding arms) it takes on the form of a swastika. Using my amazing MS Paint skills...

Rory Winter · Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject:

Caz · Last Chance Saloon Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 836

Thanks for the explanation. Personally I think this needs a lot more research.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/HTML-docs/The_Backwards_Swastika.htm

http://o3.indiatimes.com/lonelyaztec/archive/2005/01/07/48982.aspx

Rory Winter · Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:25 pm Post subject:

Caz, I understand you're interested in esoterica. From that point-of-view research is interesting & your papers similarly.

But let's be clear. There are two types of hakenkreuzen or 'crooked-crosses'.

There is the one we know as the Swastika or, in Sanskrit, svastika, associated with the Sun and Good Fortune:

and the one Hitler used which in Sanskrit, is known as the sauvastika, associated with the Hindu Goddess of Destruction, Kali:

Tilt this by 45 degrees and you have Hitler's most commonly-used version:

Which is identical with:

Through ignorance or deliberate intent, the person responsible for designing the sauvastika in the Whitehall logo above used the sign of Kali. That is more than ironic in a self-destructing capitalist economy. So was the symbol of destruction used with deliberate intent?

We cannot know whether the Whitehall sauvastika was meant to rotate clockwise or widdershins, or either. But what is clear is that it's the Sauvastika of Destruction, not the Svastika of Good Fortune which is often found on house-fronts in Asia.

That's what should interest us as well as the fact that a symbol associated with Hitler was ever used by a British government.

Is Gordon Brown a crypto-fascist, closet Nazi? Many of us would think so.

Caz · Last Chance Saloon Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 836

Note images on the websites below:

http://www.himalayanacademy.com/taka/past/2000/October/October_06_2000 /
and the related comments:

Rory Winter · Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:17 pm Post subject:

Caz · Last Chance Saloon Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 836

Some photos would be nice.

Rory Winter · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:12 pm Post subject:

Caz · Last Chance Saloon Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 836

Evidence is always a good thing.

Rory Winter · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject:

Yes, but I'd have to make a 6,500 mile trip to Sri Lanka to find the houses I mention! My memory is very clear on the fact that the houses bore the sauvastika sign. I asked my dad why it was different to the Hitler sign & he told me that it was because this one meant Good Luck.

So it seems there are opposing interpretations of which is which either in two different cultures or amongst the individual house-owners who commissioned the signs.

Anyway, all this is interesting but gets away from the original point: whoever designed the Whitehall logo would have known that the swastika of the kind used has become associated in the minds of the western public with Hitler. To go ahead and use that sign knowingly was, to say the least, mischievous.

Caz · Last Chance Saloon Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 836

You need evidence. There must be some somewhere.

Rory Winter · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject:

alfsevic · Minor Poster Joined: 05 Jan 2007 Posts: 82

how about this

or this

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Rory Winter · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:03 pm Post subject:

Yes, alfsevic, I get the point about the Nazi flavour of USUK governments. Sieg Heil to the Anglo-Saxon Alliance!

Caz · Last Chance Saloon Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 836

Rory Winter · Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject:

Caz, I think that while you're concerned about esoterica we're more concerned about everyday politics. Smile

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