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slower Minor Poster
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slower Minor Poster
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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thats a turn up for the BOOK i thought it was going to b us first, im going to bed now laughing my ?ucking head off.
although it would make more sense to do them first as the sheep would be more trusting of it. |
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Lee Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Wow. This is todays article too. Unbelievable.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_artic le_id=558597&in_page_id=1770
It's one of the most important stories of the year!
The article's also in the Evening Standard but I can't post the url for some reason. It wont let me.
Are you watching NO2ID?
Should we expect dwindling numbers of officers now this bombshell is out? Who would want to sign up and be chipped?
So does less Police = chipped people?!!
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keithm Validated Poster
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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it was reported that police chief mike todd had a thing for the ladies,
so i'm sure he wouldn't have wanted to be chipped,
i wonder if he and the spate of other dead officers has anything to do with this.
perhaps they were rebelling against being microchipped. |
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fish5133 Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: chipped at birth |
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I am waiting for the "if Madelaine Mcann was chipped she could have been found" game plan. _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12 |
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slower Minor Poster
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:06 am Post subject: |
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i think NO2ID was where i found out about my bus pass 6 months ago |
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Lee Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: |
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In the interest of impartial truth seeking I must include this article that has been brought to my attention.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/11/ntag11 1.xml
It says that the officers will only be "tagged" but it doesn't say how and it doesn't say that they wont be chipped.
It should still be seen as another step toward total surveillance in my opinion.
But it may not be as much of leap toward it just yet.
I suppose the only way to find out is to call the met and ask exactly what the technology is. |
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truthseeker john Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: Plans To Micro-Chip London’s Metropolitan Police |
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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=8400
On Plans To Micro-Chip London’s Metropolitan Police
Philip Jones – April 11, 2008
As a former Metropolitan Police Officer, it was with great concern that I read yesterday's announcement by Sir Ian Blair, The Police Commissioner of London, that every one of the 31,000 serving officers will be `Microchipped` so that their `movements` can be monitored more effectively. The new device called the `Automated Personal Location System` or APLS will mean that Officers will `never` be out of range of supervisors. This massive invasion of the `last frontier` of human privacy (a person's self) is being sold as a means by which better protection can be afforded patrol units. What nobody, including the Police Federation seems to understand, is that once `embedded` into a person, the potential of this `chip` goes much further than merely being used as a tracking device.
The `Personal Microchip` is the Illuminati's `icing on the cake` where social control is concerned, and the key to the global control of the planet's population. If this `mandatory` chipping of London Police Officers goes ahead, the precedent will be set, and how long will it be before the `Armed Forces`, and other `Emergency Services` follow suit ? Furthermore, with the Police already `fitted out` with this new `wonder chip`, it won't be too difficult to `sell` the `APLS` to parents already whipped into a state of `terror` by sensationalised reporting by the Mass Media of every new child abduction case. 'If it's alright for the Police, well it must be a good thing then', will be the likely consensus.
It is an accepted fact that the UK is the surveillance capitol of the world, and it's people are sleepwalking headlong into a `Big Brother` Totalitarian State, the monstrous proportions of which even George Orwell could not have imagined.
As mentioned above, the `tracking` ability of the APLS is only a minor aspect of it's sinister potential for human control. Over the past twenty years or so, Credit and Debit cards have largely replaced cash transactions on the high street. The imminent introduction of the national ID card system in both the UK and US would facilitate the `phasing` out of Credit/Charge cards as personal information and financial details are embedded onto the ID card's `chip`. This in due course would accelerate the disappearance of `cash` altogether. The question begs to be asked; If there's no cash alternative, and the chip in your card has been switched off because you wouldn't `conform` to their new World Order, what are you going to do? There you have `their` recipe for the complete economic and social enslavement of mankind.
This is even more the case with personal microchips, and the with speed technology in this field is now advancing, the introduction of the APLS could literally `leapfrog` over the National ID card, and the trickle of public acquiescence would become an avalanche, as more and more employers insist on their workforce accepting `voluntary` chipping as a precondition of employment. Information stored within the `Chip` could be easily accessed via a Central Computer, and sold to private companies by government agencies. So, they'll decide whether you work or not, and whether you will have the capacity to purchase food and everything else needed to live, or not.
The Book of Revelations foretold of these developments long ago, ' And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond to receive a mark on their foreheads, or upon their right hand. That no man might buy or sell, save he had that mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who hath understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666'.
The chip placed in the back of your hand will be the mark of the beast.
With everyone's complete personal `portfolio` registered on a National database (to be transferred to the Global Computer when the time is right), the dignity of human kind and the concept of the individual will disappear. I recall watching an episode of `Star Trek, The Next Generation` a few years back, and an Alien Race known as the `Borg`. The Borg were part organic, part cyborg, and were all linked to each other via their central computer. Unless we wake up and stop this relentless march towards totalitarianism, there is your picture of the future.
In the words of George Orwell, 'If you want to know what the future looks like. Imagine a boot, stamping down onto a human face forever'.
The British Police Service is a ready made `easy target` for this pernicious and ominous attack on personal liberty, thinly disguised as being a means of safeguarding patrol officers. They have weak representation and no trade union. Unless their members stand firm and refuse this grim proposal, the above scenario becoming a reality is almost inevitable.
As CS Lewis put it, 'When the Round Table is broken. Men must choose galahad or Mordred. Middle things are gone.
Philip Jones.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_artic le_id=558597 _________________ "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." - Euripides
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." - Albert Einstein
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Reflecter Validated Poster
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Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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A Metro article on this, seemed of the impression the chips will be in radio headsets and not in the Policemen themselves.
In addition to the inevitable roll out to on the public under McCann style fears is this not fatally flawed if organised criminals manage to hack the system and thus be aware of every policemens location in the country? _________________ The Peoples United Collective TPUC.ORG
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slower Minor Poster
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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truthseeker john Validated Poster
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:43 am Post subject: Universal Declaration of Human Rights |
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Sylvia says on
http://www.thisworldmatters.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3155#3155
"This is actually illegal under the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Article 3.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.
The liberty part applies here. Tracking someone's movements is as good as depriving them of their liberty.
Article 12.
No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.
And what is this if not an interference with privacy?
Article 13.
(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state.
Freedom of movement is exactly that, movement without being tracked.
Article 23.
(1) Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment.
Just and favourable conditions of work. Being tracked when you go for a nonsense does not, I think, apply here.
All told, a very dodgy idea. I don't care WHAT the operational needs that led to this little piece of insanity but I doubt the Met's officers - who are human beings first and policemen second - will stand for it.
Source: http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html _________________ "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." - Euripides
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." - Albert Einstein
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fish5133 Site Admin
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Truthseeker john wrote
Quote: | The Book of Revelations foretold of these developments long ago, ' And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond to receive a mark on their foreheads, or upon their right hand. That no man might buy or sell, save he had that mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who hath understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666'.
The chip placed in the back of your hand will be the mark of the beast. |
For those interested in this subject it is found in the 13th chapter of Revelation. Bear in mind it was written by a guy John while in prison on an island. Before coming to conclusions like "the chip will be the mark of the beast" it is important to look further at who the "he" of "and he causeth all..." is. Look at the characteristics of this "he" as described in verses 11 to 16. Its too easy to say the chip will be the mark as it was to say the barcode was. Certainly we have key things like "mark" "name" "number" "forehead" "right hand" "all great and small rich and poor" "restriction of trade without it". The restriction of trade bit is interesting because it implies a cashless society for while their is a cash society trade can carry on )notwithstanding swopping of skills/goods)
Whats confusing is their is more than 1 beast (v11 "another beast"). Beasts are often interpreted as literal earthly leaders and empires rather than mythical or spiritual creatures. v14 and 15 seem to indicate collusion between the different beasts but also that worship (idol) (v12) is involved.Just a couple of pointers to wet the appetite.
There is one belief that the mark etc was all fulfilled in the early days of the christian church/roman empire. Not a view I share
If you want to believe that the chip or something similar is the mark then you should also take into account the better news of verse 8 which is the key (you need your name in the Lambs (Christs) book of life) which is what the bible also calls being saved, seeing the light, being born again, redeemed, etc). Their is also a possibility that this verse 8 implies that the chrsistian church may have already been removed from the earth (rapture)
Certainly fascinating times we are going through. Heard one preacher say that the mark on forehead also represents ownership and that for the Christian that space is reserved for the name of Christ. _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12 |
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