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 Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: Insane comment of the day |
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We all know that the face of trutherdom we see is critics corner is the santised, presentable version. Many extremist groups have a front organisation they recruit or campaign through. I don't think the truthiness movement is an extremist group, but I do think that many extremists operate behind it and use it as a front.
With that in mind I thought I would launch an "insane comment of the day" topic. A topic for all the raving lunacy that happens outside of critics corner which we are not allowed to comment on.
No promises that I will provide one every day. And no rules against providing more than one per day.
Anyway, I look forward to contributions.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: |
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My first insane comment of the day: | Quote: | | Similarly there are many Jewish scolars who are opponents of Holocaust™ because they have realised that there was much zionist involvement and the main victims were religious traditional Jews whereas the main beneficiaries have been American Ashkenazis. |
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marky 54
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Many extremist groups have a front organisation they recruit or campaign through. I don't think the truthiness movement is an extremist group, but I do think that many extremists operate behind it and use it as a front.
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many? i believe your comment is insane. whilst i'd agree there are some who post disinfo or are misinformed and repeat what they have heard from elsewhere because it agrees with their belief and they think it proves they are correct thus they post it here.
but i would'nt say they are extremists. you would because that obviously suits your view and motive(you hate the site and would love to see freedom of speech shut down in this case). if there are extremist (because i cannot know for sure) then i certainly think your exagerating with the 'many' comment. |
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This is too easy.
"The skies over North London seem pretty clear of (alleged) chemtrails recently, this proves whatever they were they weren't jet vapour trails, maybe they've perfected transparant chemtrails or they're doing it solely nocturnally?"
"..this proves..." wtf? Non sequitur or what?
"..transparant (sic) chemtrails.." wtf? Did they only just hit upon this cunning plan? After giving the game away all these years? Maybe it was the CTists wot provoked them into being so sooper-dooper cunning.
"..nocturnally.." wtf? <see above>
Perhaps I missed the deeply ironic nature of the post? It's happened before.
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SHERITON HOTEL
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| sam wrote: | This is too easy.
"The skies over North London seem pretty clear of (alleged) chemtrails recently, this proves whatever they were they weren't jet vapour trails, maybe they've perfected transparant chemtrails or they're doing it solely nocturnally?"
"..this proves..." wtf? Non sequitur or what?
"..transparant (sic) chemtrails.." wtf? Did they only just hit upon this cunning plan? After giving the game away all these years? Maybe it was the CTists wot provoked them into being so sooper-dooper cunning.
"..nocturnally.." wtf? <see above>
Perhaps I missed the deeply ironic nature of the post? It's happened before. |
What's wrong? been at the blue smarrties again?? It's pretty plain english son, I've observed a cessation of (alleged) chemtrail activity in the skies over north london in the recent past, what do you want, a dummies guide to no observed chemtrail activity over north London in the past two weeks?
nocturnally means at night, how do you cope with such a limited vocabulary?
have you really gotten anything to say or are you pepic in disguise? |
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pepik
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | many? i believe your comment is insane. |
I believe you can't read, I wasn't talking about troof in that statement, i was talking about extremist groups in general, e.g. Sinn Fein = IRA. | Quote: | | whilst i'd agree there are some who post disinfo or are misinformed and repeat what they have heard from elsewhere because it agrees with their belief and they think it proves they are correct thus they post it here. |
Note coded wording (disinfo = conspiracy, misinformed = accident). You see, nobody in the troof movement is actually guilty. You are a good apologist Marky.
| Quote: | | but i would'nt say they are extremists. |
It is a matter of opinion, in that sense you are right. But holocaust deniers? I'd call that extemist even if you are too incapable of criticising your truth buddies. | Quote: | | you would because that obviously suits your view and motive(you hate the site and would love to see freedom of speech shut down in this case). |
I am speaking from the little corner of this site where I am allowed to post. If I venture out, like Bushwhacker, I get banned (and interestingly, you took his banning as an opportunity to whine about how troofers are persecuted, a better examply of obsessive self pity and hypocrisy than I have seen in a long time). And you say >I< an against freedom of speech? Try getting banned from screwloosechange. Its quite hard. | Quote: | | if there are extremist (because i cannot know for sure) then i certainly think your exagerating with the 'many' comment. |
Again, you misread who "many" applied to. But the fact that you "cannot know for sure" is testament to your ability to a) apologise for virtually anything and b) your inability to be sure of even the most blindingly obvious realities.
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marky 54
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| Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Note coded wording (disinfo = conspiracy, misinformed = accident). You see, nobody in the troof movement is actually guilty. You are a good apologist Marky.
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a few people are guilty, and i believe a few actually do it on purpose. mistakes, errors and lies have been pointed out many times yet they still promote it.
so yet again you attempt to tell me what i think or believe is bu**sh*t.
| Quote: | | It is a matter of opinion, in that sense you are right. But holocaust deniers? I'd call that extemist even if you are too incapable of criticising your truth buddies. |
i agree holocaust denial is not a good thing. but maybe you should take note on who posts that nonsense, its always the same few. then when something is done about it threads like this emerge.
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14351
but you want to paint a picture that most are extremists,when the truth is most do not support the extreme material posted and it is usually moved etc.
| Quote: | | I am speaking from the little corner of this site where I am allowed to post. If I venture out, like Bushwhacker, I get banned (and interestingly, you took his banning as an opportunity to whine about how troofers are persecuted, a better examply of obsessive self pity and hypocrisy than I have seen in a long time). |
i smell more b*ll*hit.
i did not use it as an oppertunity to moan about how truthers are treated.
critics used it as an oppertunity to moan about how they are treated. i simply pointed out how they have not got it as bad as they would have it if they were posting elsewhere. and they could always start their own website etc. and then i mentioned some of the postives of critics corner.
anybody who actually read what i said would know this, but as usual you have to make it up and post in a hateful manner.
| Quote: | | Again, you misread who "many" applied to. But the fact that you "cannot know for sure" is testament to your ability to a) apologise for virtually anything and b) your inability to be sure of even the most blindingly obvious realities. |
then make it clearer next time. from reading your post you gave the impression you were calling most who post here extremists because of what a few posters keep posting and then moaning about when it gets removed.
most would agree the comment you highlight is bad, and so do i. i just disagree it is many when its always the same few. but you do it all the time, take one comment or one example and then try to make out almost everyone is the same. which is b*llsh*t.
but apparently you meant something else.
| Quote: | Many extremist groups have a front organisation they recruit or campaign through. I don't think the truthiness movement is an extremist group, but I do think that many extremists operate behind it and use it as a front.
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if this is true then like i said it is the same few, NOT many. however you want to exagerate to implicate everybody else when everbody else is against the comments as much as you are. |
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pepik
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | a few people are guilty, and i believe a few actually do it on purpose. mistakes, errors and lies have been pointed out many times yet they still promote it. |
Such reluctance to concede. | Quote: | | o yet again you attempt to tell me what i think or believe is bu**sh*t. |
Nope, just commenting on what you said.May be so, I don't spend enough time there to know. Maybe over time I'll see you are right. | Quote: | | but you want to paint a picture that most are extremists,when the truth is most do not support the extreme material posted and it is usually moved etc. |
Ooooh Marky you're telling me what I think! Boo hoo. I don't think most are extremists. But I do think most sanitise their views for public consumption. The likelihood that 911 believers also believe in either chemtrails, UFOs, aliens, NWO theories, anti or semetic conspiracies, etc seems very high to me. Its not just extremism, its kookiness. | Quote: | | i did not use it as an oppertunity to moan about how truthers are treated. |
Yes you did. | Quote: | | critics used it as an oppertunity to moan about how they are treated. |
So a critic getting banned is not the right time to complain about the treatment of critics? Oh Marky! | Quote: | | i simply pointed out how they have not got it as bad as they would have it if they were posting elsewhere. and they could always start their own website etc. |
Exactly. When a critic is banned unjustly (and clearly he was unjustly banned) you think this is a perfect moment to point out that critics should be glad they don't have it even worse? Oh Marky!
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| Quote: | | Barack Obama is a troubled personality, the megalomaniac front man for a postmodern coup by intelligence agencies using fake polls, mobs of adolescents, super-rich backers, and orchestrated media hysteria to short-circuit normal politics and seize power. Obama comes from the orbit of the Ford Foundation, and has never won an election in a real contest. His guru and controller is Zbigniew Brzezinski, the Trilateral Commission co-founder and mad Russia-hater. Zbig wants a showdown with Russia and China far more dangerous for the US than the Bush-Cheney Iraq quagmire. Obama’s economics are pure Skull & Bones/Chicago school austerity and sacrifice for American working families, to bail out the bankrupt Wall Street financiers who own him. Obama’s lemming legions and Kool-Aid cult candidacy hearken back to Italy in 1919-1922, and raise a spectre of postmodern fascism in America. No voter can afford to ignore the lessons contained in this book. |
By the way quotes from Dustbin and Controversial theories sections not valid.
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marky 54
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | So a critic getting banned is not the right time to complain about the treatment of critics? Oh Marky! |
i never said it was not the right time, i simply said they used it as an oppertunity. i was not condeming them for doing so.
| Quote: | | Exactly. When a critic is banned unjustly (and clearly he was unjustly banned) you think this is a perfect moment to point out that critics should be glad they don't have it even worse? Oh Marky! |
ok name one thing bad about critics corner.
| Quote: | | Ooooh Marky you're telling me what I think! Boo hoo. I don't think most are extremists. But I do think most sanitise their views for public consumption. The likelihood that 911 believers also believe in either chemtrails, UFOs, aliens, NWO theories, anti or semetic conspiracies, etc seems very high to me. Its not just extremism, its kookiness. |
ah your one of those idiots who believes everybody else are idiots because you have not witnessed things for yourself and your to worried about what others will think to even look seriously.
better to take the piss instead. i wonder why critics corner exsists? i cannot think of any reason, honestly  . |
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| Quote: | | Never let a private company (the Federal Reserve) control the money supply. |
This has been more difficult than I expected. I thought the rest of the forums were full of debate and I was missing all the fun. But they aren't. Most topics seem to be dominated by cut and paste news stories from a small group of people. There is little debate, little disagreement, little comment. Dissent is many cases is treated with hostility.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:12 am Post subject: |
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did you post that comment in the correct topic pepik?
its puzzling. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | This has been more difficult than I expected. I thought the rest of the forums were full of debate and I was missing all the fun. But they aren't. Most topics seem to be dominated by cut and paste news stories from a small group of people. There is little debate, little disagreement, little comment. Dissent is many cases is treated with hostility.
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oh i see now, sorry i did'nt follow for a second there.
| Quote: | | Most topics seem to be dominated by cut and paste news stories |
| Quote: | | There is little debate, little disagreement |
if most topics are news stories its not suprising there is little disagreement, unless the the news story is found to be false that is.
like this: http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14372 |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Re-reading my comment, I admit it was incoherent. I was trying to say that I wanted to find insane comments that appeared to gain acceptance, but it was difficult because a) not much is getting said, and b) there is very little discussion of anything being said. | Quote: | if most topics are news stories its not suprising there is little disagreement, unless the the news story is found to be false that is.
like this: |
I don't see any debate there.
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DEBATE:
1. a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints: a debate in the Senate on farm price supports.
2. a formal contest in which the affirmative and negative sides of a proposition are advocated by opposing speakers.
3. deliberation; consideration.
4. Archaic. strife; contention.
–verb (used without object) 5. to engage in argument or discussion, as in a legislative or public assembly: When we left, the men were still debating.
6. to participate in a formal debate.
7. to deliberate; consider: I debated with myself whether to tell them the truth or not.
8. Obsolete. to fight; quarrel.
–verb (used with object) 9. to argue or discuss (a question, issue, or the like), as in a legislative or public assembly: They debated the matter of free will.
10. to dispute or disagree about: The homeowners debated the value of a road on the island.
11. to engage in formal argumentation or disputation with (another person, group, etc.): Jones will debate Smith. Harvard will debate Princeton.
12. to deliberate upon; consider: He debated his decision in the matter.
13. Archaic. to contend for or over.
| Quote: | if most topics are news stories its not suprising there is little disagreement, unless the the news story is found to be false that is.
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it seems the main ingrediant for debate is different viewpoints or disagreement.
so if most posts are news stories........... feel free to start a debate if you disagree with them. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I know what a debate is. That's why I wondered how your link was an example of debate since nobody debated anything. Got a better example or healthy debate across the fence? | Quote: |
so if most posts are news stories........... feel free to start a debate if you disagree with them. |
I am forbidden to debate in there, obviously.
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