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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: On "Hate Speech" Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the BBC is nothing more than a conduit for the government's ideological sewage but I was still alarmed at the way someone in the BBC is stirring-up racial differences in Britain by highlighting that madman, Enoch Powell's, Rivers of Blood speech as it did today.

Why does the BBC have to keep on digging-up this stuff from the sewers of the British psyche? Is it the BBC's intention to revive Powell as some sort of martyred national hero in the eyes of a generation that has little or no memory of the racial strife and persecution this country went through in the 'sixties and more particularly under that very-British fascist, Margaret Thatcher?

How many black people have died and suffered at the hands of British white supremacists already? Is it the BBC's hope that they should be joined by many more in a Britain torn apart with economic and social turmoil?

As one who migrated to these islands nearly 50 years ago, I must say it in public: thanks to the BBC I have been made to feel like a Jew in Hitler's Germany.

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Oh yes, there are certainly Nazis inside the BBC as there are in this abomination of a Nu Labor government and the Tories who are deliberately seeking to stir-up racial and nationalist turmoil with the intention of creating unrest and lawlessness so that they have an excuse to declare martial law and replace parliament altogether with a dictatorship.


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The old-time Socialist, Louis Armstrong, knew exactly what he was singing about, warning the USA of McCarthyite, fascist racism!

I have said it many times before: Britain today is in a similar state to the last days of the German Weimar Republic when the Nazis were already taking over. The government has already scape-goated British Muslims as its surrogate Jews (a different slant on the traditional anti-semitism if you will). Already, anti-war campaigners are being persecuted by Britain's men-in-black. Thatcher destroyed the Trade Unions and turned Britain plc into one, vast concentration-camp.

Those who blame it all on "Europe" clearly have no idea of the domestic origins of the British police state. And while chattering on about 'national sovereignty' they forget that not only is the idea of a nation-state a feudal, capitalist concept but that any sovereignty the people had --and in imperialist Britain they never did-- has been superseded by a fascist state masquerading as a democracy.

And now, the BBC quite calculatedly revives the spectre of racism. It's clear to this new Jew why it is they're doing it ...


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"How many black people have died and suffered at the hands of British white supremacists already?" I don't know. Do you have any statistics?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check it out, pal. Check it out, yersel'! Don't expect everything to be laid on your plate for you!

Actually, you won't find any records for the numbers who did. You'll hear about poor kids like Steven Lawrence and maybe one or two more. But the British staatpolizei never kept records on each & every one they kicked the nonsense out of.

And it wasn't just blacks, it was whites too as anyone who remembers how Maggie & her Gestapo dealt with the Miners ...


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You're talking to an immigrant who when 12-years-old had his nose broken by a gang of British thugs and called a fu@k!ng wog!

Do you want to see the colour of my blood before you believe what we immigrants have had to put up with in this country?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You're talking to an immigrant who when 12-years-old had his nose broken by a gang of British thugs and called a fu@k!ng wog!


racism is another example of the vicious circle. the problem is its always the innocent who get it taken out on them.

ok someone has to start it but once it is the only thing that can stop it is education. one group ends up resenting the other and retaliate, then the person who took the retaliation could develop a fear or resentment towards that group and takes it out on someone else.

what goes around comes around.

when i was alot younger i was once beat up by a few people of a different racial group for no reason, i could of seen it as racists and hated that group of people as a result. thankfully i was better educated than that.

and like you, saw it as a few bullys rather than a whole race.

its not all one way from my experience. the racism that occures toward any race turns into a vicious circle. its a filthy disguisting thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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its not all one way from my experience. the racism that occures toward any race turns into a vicious circle. its a filthy disguisting thing.


I quite agree, Marky. It's not all one-way. Oh, I could tell you stories of the things I have seen on this Planet in the 60 years I've been on it!

I've come to the conclusion that humans as a race are crazy. Like a lot of folk I love & respect other animals more than I do a lot of fellow-humans.

I have seen whites persecuting blacks, browns persecuting browns and God knows what else. I feel like a wandering Jew in this desert we call 'civilisation'. Or an alien just visiting Planet Earth!

I always remember Mahatma Gandhi when questioned by a BBC man on what he thought about civilisation. Gandhi stopped to think & then waggled his head, Indian-style, & replied, "I think it would be a very good thing!"

Meantime, we must have Solidarity, stay together: united we're strong & can beat these closet Nazis who would like to divide & rule over us!

This is how London's Eastenders dealt with Mosley's fascists in the 'thirties:




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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i could certainly go with that. i feel ashamed to be associated with the human race sometimes. how can the best and worst come from one race(human)? and sometimes the same diversity can come from one person alone.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we are all becoming to feel like aliens. We're being separated from each other, denied a sense of our common humanity.

We're being alien-ated!

That's why we feel like aliens!

We must carry on the struggle, never forgetting that we are One People on this Planet among God only knows how many other billion, trillion, zillion planets and suns.

We must face our inner demons as well as the outer ones & deal with them too. Life is a battlefield & a classroom & none of us ever stops learning! I guess that's Evolution in action! Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not just civilization Rory - Western civilization.

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Mahatma Gandhi was once asked what he thought about Western civilization. "I think," he replied, "it would be a very good idea."


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Don't get me started on "Forbidden Planet" or I will be posting all day!! Laughing

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Not just civilization Rory - Western civilization.


I guess I was being diplomatic when I missed out 'western'! I mean, let's be honest: there are things going on in India which are hardly civilised!

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rory Winter wrote:

Why does the BBC have to keep on digging-up this stuff from the sewers of the British psyche?


Perhaps they were simply digging around for the lost segment from the afternoon of 9/11/01 and stumbled upon this material?

I have to say, with all their faults, the BBC is one of the few mainstream sources of essential information about many issues important to the US. Take for example, Dead in the Water.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the BBC is good it can, at times, be very good. And when it's bad it can be indescribably disgraceful. Sadly, since Tonly Blair, the BBC has lost all semblance of a residual independence and is now a shameless mouthpiece for State propaganda.

There are elements in government who would wish to destabilise society sufficiently to justify a state of permanent Emergency and Martial Law (when you get tried by military tribunals and get shot on sight). The BBC is stirring-up trouble in the interests of these nasty people. That's what I see is happening.

By encouraging Joe Public to blame immigrants for all his miseries, attention is nicely distracted away from the criminalities of a bunch of gangster politicians. Never mind that the community scapegoated should suffer. Who the hell cares as long as #1 stays in power.

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