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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:12 am    Post subject: nico HAUPT attacked by weAreCHANGE Reply with quote

the mustache incident


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Three areas of study in the destruction of the WTC during 9/11, that is TV Deception, Video Deception and Media Deception (grabbing from many pools of information management) are blocked by the main branches of 9/11 "truth" movements, feeling this total truth cannot be handled while at the same time demanding truth from government and other authorities, condemning the rise of a "police" state yet so adamant that "justice" be enforced by the same institutions condemned for not allowing truth.
These are the last few minutes of a conflict between comedy as a strategy to alert people to present social trends vs 'hang-out" explanations...specifically Nico Haunt trying to give/put a black tape mustache (exhibit A) on Sabrina Rivera saying "you are a better Eva Braun...." Paula Gloria witnessed the most severe policeman (at first believing from the footage that Nico was in error) "you make a better Hitler than me") from that point on smile every time he looked at Nico. None could accept a DVD while in uniform but indicated that out of uniform would stop by and learn more about what really happened when they (Port Authority Security) lost more men than any other police precinct.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: nico HAUPT attacked by weAreCHANGE Reply with quote

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Three areas of study in the destruction of the WTC during 9/11, that is TV Deception, Video Deception and Media Deception (grabbing from many pools of information management) are blocked by the main branches of 9/11 "truth" movements, feeling this total fantasy cannot be handled...


Fixed that for you.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Three areas of study in the destruction of the WTC during 9/11, that is TV Deception, Video Deception and Media Deception (grabbing from many pools of information management) are blocked by the main branches of 9/11 "truth" movements, feeling this total truth cannot be handled while at the same time demanding truth from government and other authorities, condemning the rise of a "police" state yet so adamant that "justice" be enforced by the same institutions condemned for not allowing truth.
These are the last few minutes of a conflict between comedy as a strategy to alert people to present social trends vs 'hang-out" explanations...specifically Nico Haunt trying to give/put a black tape mustache (exhibit A) on Sabrina Rivera saying "you are a better Eva Braun...." Paula Gloria witnessed the most severe policeman (at first believing from the footage that Nico was in error) "you make a better Hitler than me") from that point on smile every time he looked at Nico. None could accept a DVD while in uniform but indicated that out of uniform would stop by and learn more about what really happened when they (Port Authority Security) lost more men than any other police precinct.


how does bugging we are change help raise these issues?

they were simply doing street action and campaigning for a new investigastion, they were not supressing tv fakery or stopping anyone else raising tv fakery 'issues'.

it seems more like bullying others into accepting their view to me.

nobody who believes tv fakery is being stopped from.....

a) starting their own websites

b) doing street action to raise awareness

c) having an opinion.

and they aint being forced to promote theories they believe are false.

what did nico achieve following around we are change trying to enforce his beliefs on them? if people are intrested they will come and ask questions or take a leaflet or something, if they think there is something in tv fakery, theres no point getting in peoples faces and forcing your opinion on them.

if he had questions why not just ask them instead of being immature.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One Question:

Where in your reading of the event is the part that We Are Change attacked Haupt?

Is not accepting someone trying to forcably paste a Hitler moustache to your face now considered an "attack"?

Get a grip jfk... and change the title of this thread to something more relevant.

Like:

"JFK tries desperately to spin Nico Haupt's harrassment into something positive"

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stefan wrote:
Get a grip jfk... and change the title of this thread to something more relevant.

Like:

"JFK tries desperately to spin Nico Haupt's harrassment into something positive"


Or "Agent provocateur caught in the act..."

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prison planet shamelessly twisting this story to create tension

"Nico verbally sexually harassed our female members, bit one of our members nose, choked and punched one our members and committed other horrendous acts all while the police always let him walk away without checking his I.D."
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky54 named his thread 'we are change ATTACKED by nico haupt'

is trying to give someone a fake mustache is ATTACKING them?

in my view luke does try to attack nico, so my title seems appropriate
see 2 can play this sad game
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfk wrote:
marky54 named his thread 'we are change ATTACKED by nico haupt'

is trying to give someone a fake mustache is ATTACKING them?

in my view luke does try to attack nico, so my title seems appropriate
see 2 can play this sad game


i see you avoided the questions.

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is trying to give someone a fake mustache is ATTACKING them?


if they don't want it, yes.

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marky54 named his thread 'we are change ATTACKED by nico haupt'


no that is simply what the story says. i did'nt claim it or name the thread, the story determined that, i simply passed on information reporting he ATTACKED we are change. what do you expect me to name it if it says he attacked them? "nico greets wearechange in a very nice manner" Rolling Eyes

don't blame me for nico's extreme behaviour.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardly an "attack" by either party, what is called "handbags" brought on by provocation and retaliation---your honour.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is this person trying to put a Hitler tash on anyone anyway?

As well as being considered as a physical attack, it could also be considered an attack on someones' character.

If anyone lunged at me in the same way, I would certainly consider it an attack.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this isn't a good look

we are change arrest

picked up at:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04242008/news/regionalnews/bush_basher...

BUSH BASHER SMASHES DISABLED TEEN: COPS
[sic: according to Criminal Records m08635912 at 100 Centre Street
Gary aka German Talis was released free on 04/23 evening and has
his Court Case on June 4th)

April 24, 2008 --

A man heckling First Lady Laura Bush and daughter Jenna outside the 92nd Street Y was arrested after he punched a wheelchair-bound girl whose parents had told him to shut up, authorities said yesterday. German Talis, 22, was shouting obscenities at the Bushes, who were leaving the building Tuesday, when he crossed paths with Wendy and John Lovetro and their daughter Maureen, 18, who has cerebral palsy...



..."He began yelling about Iraq and Iran at Jenna Bush. She was waving at the crowd. I told the guy, 'What are you doing? Shut up. This is about a child and books,' " said John Lovetro. "He was unperturbed. I said, 'Get out of here! You're being a moron!' "

The next thing he knew, Talis was allegedly punching Maureen - a fan of the first lady since meeting her in 2004.

"I heard my daughter hysterical yelling, 'He's hitting me!' " said Wendy Lovetro.

"He punched her on the shoulder blades, but that wasn't enough," she said...

...The two men fought as the president's family drove off. Cops broke them up and busted Talis on charges of assault and resisting arrest...

* Source Blog

* Posted on: Thu, Apr 24 2008 11:45 AM


i rest my case
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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picked up at:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04242008/news/regionalnews/bush_basher...


page not found. i don't doubt the story did exsist, but it seems the website has pulled their own story. any idea why?

story from we are change:

A call
WeAreCHANGE has been there for 9/11 victims family members, 9/11 ill rescue workers and all Americans who seek liberty and freedom, we now ask the people to be there for us.

We are calling any lawyers to please contact us at pursuitofliberty@gmail.com we have a solid case against the NYPD and New York Post. The truth shall speak for itself, our case is undeniable and a horrendous attack on our organization and name. If you are not a lawyer we will greatly appreciate any contribution or donation we can get in order to get legal help and buy more cameras to prevent future provocateurs.

The main stream media says Gary of WeAreCHANGE shouted obscenities at the 1st lady please feel free to watch the video of Gary expressing his freedom speech not cursing once then and at the end stating "get out of my face" to the guy who raised his fist at Gary the first time. Gary was asking the secret service and NYPD to help him and get this man away from him before he rammed his daughter with a wheel chair into him and beat him while Gary did not even defend himself. The secret service and NYPD ignored Gary's plea of help only arresting him after being pummeled and assaulted by a 6 foot 400 pound guy.

We are a peaceful non violent organization committed to the principles of Gandhi and Martin Luther King, we have made that presently clear with our previous actions and message. It is a disgrace to see the media try to paint our organization that of which assaults handicap children, this is an outright lie, libel and slander.

We will not stop our efforts in the fight for justice for all those affected by 9/11. The provocateur attacks on WeAreCHANGE will only make us more defiant and stronger, thats why we decided to double our efforts and this week alone we confronted

1. Arnold Schwarzenegger
2. Katie Couric
3. Gary Hart
4. Lynne Cheney
5. John Kerry

There will also be new videos released of other provocateurs physically assaulting us at Ground Zero and a new 9/11 survivor who witnessed explosions taking place at the lobby of the World Trade Center. We are proud to provide you these videos for free because its all about for the people by the people. I have not slept in 2 and 1/2 days so I need some rest, love and truth will prevail!

Peace and Respect,
Luke Rudkowski -Founder of WeAreCHANGE

http://www.wearechange.org/

now yet again i have no idea on the details other than this story and the NY post version which was pulled and dos'nt exsist at the moment.

also here is garys(the guy in question) version of events. i have no idea whos version is more accurate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFSGhyjoltM
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfk wrote:
marky54 named his thread 'we are change ATTACKED by nico haupt'

is trying to give someone a fake mustache is ATTACKING them?


I'm not so fragile that I'd consider it an "attack" on myself if it happened to me

But I would consider it (at least) the actions of a juvenile tw*t with self-control problems

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in my view luke does try to attack nico, so my title seems appropriate
see 2 can play this sad game


How sad of you to do so then: surely you are lowering yourself? Never a good thing

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: confusion Reply with quote

I am not positive how the fictions in law work in the UK.

However, the fictions in law in the USA have it like this.

assault is verbal. Screaming, threats, etc.

battery is when it gets to touching the other person or hitting up to and including killing.

There are charges of one, the other or both.

In this video it is clear that Nico is assualting and on his way to commit battery. He only has assault. Hot head Wac leader has too much steam and not only assaults Nico Haupt but makes a vicious physical contact. He has crossed the line into real crime there.

Agreed Nico is an childish idiot. Same time Rudkowski is a violent childish idiot.

Rudkowski is a grasser. A squealer, a wimp. He resorted to infantile calls to the police for no reason other than his inability to control his own self or situation. He lost his focus and made his own way, far away from his goals. He can never be trusted - he trusts the police!

Nico on the other hand won because he caused it. A congrats to Nico and shame on you Luke! You fell for his show.
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