7/7 'truther' author Nick Kollerstrom is a Nazi Apologist

[chrisc]

As far as I'm concerned pods are debunked and not worth discussing.

[ian neal]

[Busker]

Isn't this whole thread a perfect example of how this forum has lost its way?

One massive distraction getting people hyped up about something nothing to do with 9/11.

Isn't it time for the topic areas to be cut right back to the bone, only having 9/11 subjects? That would refocus the entire forum.

If people want to rant about those who deny the Holocaust let them do so on an appropriate forum. This one was supposed to be about the events of 9/11 but has become so diluted due to the inclusion of other subject areas.

[jfk]

WELL SAID BUSTER!!!

[ian neal]

as you will know if you follow things here because of the reasons i have already stated the future management and ownership of this forum is open to offers. Today is the last day to throw your hats in the ring. People can oh this site should be run like this or this site should be run like that, but unless this translates into a tangible offer on the table to run and pay for this site it means nothing. Currently there are 2 firm offers and the decision will be made shortly.

[astro3]

I sort of agree with Busker that this material doesn't belong here, but it wasn't my choice, and do you mind if I just comment on what has happened to me?

I get chucked out of UCL
The sequence of events is this:
I first start getting the filthy lies and slander directed against me from Rachel North’s blog - I am ‘a poster on white supremacist sites’, ‘a liar’, ‘an apologist for mass murder’ and that I indulge in ‘hate speech,’ and so forth. Then, on Tuesday 22nd of April, the UCL notice board announces that my Fellowship has been terminated (1). I’ve been an honorary postdoc fellow in the Science and technology Studies Department for about 11 years, after I took my PhD there. The decision was made on Monday 21st by my Head of Department, Steve Miller. On Monday, not knowing this, I go round to a member of the UCL Personell Department who deals with complaints against members of staff to discuss the stories I’d heard; she said she had not then heard of any such complaints but would let me know. Later that day she received the complaint sent against me by ‘Johnny void.’ I got to hear about the decision on Wednesday.

Rachel knew two days earlier, and posted the news of my position being terminated on her blog, Monday 21st April. I asked my head of department how she could have known about the decision when it was not announced until Tuesday and he just said, ‘I’ve no idea.’ Uh-huh. I think Rachel knew before anyone else did, and I also believe that she initiated the whole thing, for the following reason. At the top of this thread you can see that she linked my name with the phrase ‘holocaust denier’ and directly underneath put a link to the David Icke site. Now, for a college science department that is a totally lethal combination – as she well knew. Tony, do you now see why I was begging you to delete that link? When my Head of Department wrote to me on Tuesday informing me that I’d been rubbed out, he merely cited that David Icke link. He didn’t have to explain any more.

So, what’s all the fuss about, chaps? Well, glad you asked. A year or so ago I posted a couple of articles – carefully researched, from months poring over books in the British Library, every reference checked - on the CODOH site (Committee for the Open Discussion of the Holocaust). They were both about WW2, and yes maybe they were both a bit anti-establishment. One called for a re-evaluation of ‘the Holocaust’ based on chemical evidence. (2) Well for God’s sake you reply, what did you expect?

I there argued, that the levels of cyanide enduring in the walls ruled out the option that the main ‘gas chamber’ at Auschwitz, which 30 million have trooped through, could ever have been used for mass gassing. I suggested that it really was, what it appeared to be in the design plans, viz a washroom. Now, does that make me a pro-Hitler white supremacist neo-Nazi, as loads of websites – following Rachel's example – now proclaim? I don’t speak German, don’t go to Germany, nor have I ever had the remotest interest in Nazi philosophy. I would however be into arranging a special holiday tour to Auschwitz for conspiracy-theorists, and this would actually visit the gas chambers!

No, you say, now you’ve gone too far! The gas chambers at Auschwitz, where the cyanide gas was actually used, still exist, and have charming blue walls, on account of their being fairly saturated with the iron-cyanide, inside and out, on account of what happened there sixty years ago. Tours don’t visit them. They are smaller, I mean big enough to fit mattresses in, which is the sort of thing they were used for, as we’d nowadays use DDT. And they still have some of the intricate apparatus in, showing how the delousing procedure would have worked. Different people have sampled the walls, and demonstrated that they have three orders of magnitude more cyanide in them, than the alleged human gas chambers.

My statement in that essay cannot be summarised by saying ‘no Jews were gassed’ – which is part of the character-assassination program against me now going round the web – for example there could have been loads of carbon-monoxide gassings in lorries or wherever you want them to have happened – traditionally one-third of ‘the Holocaust. But, I am saying that you cannot have mass extermination by cyanide in the traditionally-designated ‘gas chambers’ of Auschwitz. There is just not the residual cyanide in the walls to permit that.

Clearly, I have committed Thoughtcrime, and the Holy Sanhedrin are out to get me. Did I cast doubt upon their Sacred Dogma? Note how I am morally damned on the UCL website, as having been expelled for an unstated reason:

[kbo234]

http://www.thejc.com/home.aspx?ParentId=m11&SecId=11&AId=59657&ATypeId =1

So they've got Nick, whoever 'they' are.

I personally think it is outrageous that this can be done to a man without materially contradicting the claims he is making.

All that is being drawn on in support of his dismissal is an unproven (but, admittedly, widely accepted) meme that has been created as propaganda by the very people (not all necessarily Jews) who demand the professional destruction of this decent man.

Have you ever met anyone less like a Nazi than Nick Kollerstrom?

Is there one amongst us with more integrity or less malice about their person?

I don't know if all of what Nick says is true but I'm pretty convinced on the Auschwitz issue (that story re the numbers and gassings is false......actually Dr.Piper, the Auschwitz museum curator, confirmed this [though he didn't mean to]with his own lips in 1992).

The time will come when people are not destroyed for saying this kind of thing.

Then people like Nick will be known for the sacrifice they have made and the good they have done.

Furthermore, even if cast iron evidence is brought forward to prove him wrong Nick is still right to raise fair questions and any anomalies that are out there.

OK....this can be used to smear the group....

....well, of course it can.....and of course it will.......but as I see it, if you spurn them into retaliation....that's progress......painful for Nick, but progress.

The ways of God are not the ways of man but speaking necessary truth was certainly Christ's way (I know this will be an irrelevant aside to many of you but let's pretend for a moment that we live in a Christian country rather than a Zionist* one, shall we)......and he was addressing his issues to the very same parties and about the same parties as ourselves.

All that is meant to happen will happen as humanity struggles to free itself from the Luciferian yoke.


* While Israel is slaughtering and starving Palestinians inside the world's biggest concentration camp.......the UK, along with the EU, are implementing sanctions against the Palestinians!

Doesn't that make you mad?

Are we or are we not a Zionist state?

......and how, exactly, did that happen?

[chrisc]

[johnnyvoid]

What you actually said was

“As surprising as it may sound, the only intentional mass extermination program in the concentration camps of WW2 was targeted at Germans."

http://codoh.com/newrevoices/nrillusion.html

and

“Let us hope the schoolchildren visitors are properly taught about the elegant swimming-pool at Auschwitz, built by the inmates, who would sunbathe there on Saturday and Sunday afternoons while watching the water-polo matches; and shown the paintings from its art class, which still exist; and told about the camp library which had some forty-five thousand volumes for inmates to choose from, plus a range of periodicals; and the six camp orchestras at Auschwitz/Birkenau, its the theatrical performances, including a children’s opera, the weekly camp cinema, and even the special brothel established there. Let’s hope they are shown postcards written from Auschwitz, some of which still exist, where the postman would collect the mail twice-weekly.”

this was on your piece from here

http://www.codoh.com/newrevoices/nrnktrip.html

which has myseriously disappeared offline in the last two days

but thats fine because it can still be read on google cache

[ian neal]

[chrisc]

[chek]

I say good riddance.

No matter how intelligent a person may seem in one dimension, the stupid - as evidenced by writing about the 'positive aspects' or the 'upside' of the much misunderstood social dymanic of 'every convenience' Dachau - are no asset to this campaign, or humanity in general, whatsoever.

And that's allowing mucho leaway in assuming it is just a manifestation of stupidity, which I don't accept for one moment.

[Dogsmilk]

[Alexander]

He talked about Auschwitz, not Dachau. Even the official Holocaust story no longer claims Dachau as an "extermination camp".

You really know nothing about the Holocaust, do you?You're so quick to judge others who have looked into the details though.

[chek]

[Alexander]

My mentor? Never even heard the guy's name until a couple of days ago.
Gain some knowledge about the subject of the Holocaust before criticizing others who have taken the time and trouble to investigate these matters would be my advice.

[kbo234]

[Mer-curious]

But we're discussing it! I think NK has stuck his neck out (which may have been a very stupid thing to do) but personally, I admire that kind of bravery. I wish I had that kind of courage--but I'm equally glad I'm not on the receiving end of the flack. He's been accused of all matter of utter BS but his point is clear: why can't we discuss this without reacting in a hysterical manner? What the hell is wrong with asking questions and looking beyond what was crammed down our necks in GCSE history? NK did not personally kill anyone. Are his comments insensitive? Without a doubt. Did he approve of the murder of millions of people? Get out of it. Let us get it into perspective: it is not a crime in this country to enter into debate (yet). NK's "crime" is that he is ahead of our time--we're not ready to discuss what he sees as important just yet. He paid a pretty big price to test the boundaries of our freedom of speech, being thrown out of UCL after 15 years, but as they say, "no publicity is bad publicity." http://www.thejc.com/home.aspx?ParentId=m11&SecId=11&AId=59657&ATypeId =1
I hope he adds this latest travesty in some upcoming book. Better yet, let's do our own research (we all have passes to the British Library, right?) and prove him wrong. Oh. . .oops UCL/"Rachel" might not like that: they like to do things the Nazi way.

[chek]

[karlos]

Rachel has got yet another scalp.
Dont forget she previously managed to get a blogger ?Felicity J Lord? arrested after a manhunt and imprisoned.
So hell hath no fury......etc

[chek]

[Dogsmilk]

[Alexander]

I had read "astro3"'s thread at CODOH. But I had no idea of his real identity. Why do you think otherwise? I live up here in Scotland and know personally no other person who shares my skepticism of the Holocaust story. All my aquaintances believe 100%....they can't tell me a single thing about it though.

[Dogsmilk]

[ian neal]

kbo I disagree. If you want to expose the evil oligarchs behind the 'war on terror' genocide arguing the toss over holocaust does not help indeed is extremely counter productive. The unanswered questions of 9/11 and 7/7 are the key issues to focus and in terms of exposing Israel false flag terror issues like USS Liberty or the Lavon affair are far more relevent and less sensitive than holocaust discussion. Surely you can see this?

[Alexander]

I did think that the two incarnations of astro3 were probably the same person. But I had no way of knowing the posters real name - very much as I don't know yours. Rather pointless discussion this.

[Dogsmilk]

[Alexander]

You overestimate my attention to footnotes! OK i had a way of knowing the author's name then...i just didn't click on Footnote 4 on that thread:-)
Must be more thorough in future.

[Dogsmilk]

[Alexander]

Yeah. I realise i left the door open there. Well done for resisting the temptation:-)