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EU referendum... not. Evidence of a fascist state in GB
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm anti-EU but pro Europe.....

I'm anti-NATO but pro using minimum but well trained forces to uphold international law (laws that have been agreed upon by the peoples of the world once we have seen off and removed the influence and agendas of the NWO) when all peaceful means have been exhausted. And, hopefully, once we have removed the NWO, suppressed non-lethal technologies and free energy sources may be available to prevent wars......who knows?

I'm anti the special relationship with the USA because it is totally contrived by the NWO

Rory, my friend, the current EU is a stepping stone to the ultimate goal of a global fascist state (Tony is right with the title to this thread) but a Council of European States, which wants to look after trade, peace and which encourages countries to be as self sufficient and less materialistic as possible and which embraces the search for real Truth, would have my vote.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rory, my friend, the current EU is a stepping stone to the ultimate goal of a global fascist state


Justin, we're already living in a fascist state! We don't need a stepping-stone to get somewhere we're already in! See http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=114649#114649

In fact it is likely that all modern governments, through their indivisible connection to big industry corporations, have become a modern form of corporate state making them fascist in character.

Nato is simply a catspaw for US imperialism & is better rid of the sooner the better. For my comments on Nato & the great British non-debate please see
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?p=115421#115421

Whereas the call for a Referendum is one thing the call for withdrawal from the EU is entirely another. No one, apart from a small, fringe group of ideological liquorice allsorts is calling for that.

The call for withdrawal will remain a voice in the wilderness.The European Project will go on and I believe that a Campaign for Democracy in Europe is what we would all best be supporting.

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PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some good news on this front for a change

Ken Clarke and the masonic/Zionist influence in the judciary will be coming to bear on this case for sure.

Victory in first round of campaign to force EU treaty referendum
By Christopher Hope, Home Affairs Editor
Daily Telegraph - 02May08
Stuart Wheeler, one of Britain’s richest men, has won the first round of his battle to force Gordon Brown to hold a referendum on the EU Reform Treaty.

He went to the High Court in London last month to seek a judicial review of the Government’s decision not to hold a referendum on the treaty.

Today judges ruled that the challenge can go ahead. The likely two-day court hearing could prove to be very embarrassing for ministers if internal Government memos and emails are revealed.

The legal challenge could also delay the ratification of the controversial treaty by months if court time is not granted shortly. Peers in the House of Lords are due to vote on the legislation later this month........

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1920180/Victory-in-first-round-of-camp aign-to-force-EU-treaty-referendum.html

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Judicial review to force referendum won Reply with quote

Stuart Wheeler, who is suing the PM over thegovernment's refusal to hold a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, as they had promised, has won the legal right to a judicial review of the case. He writes:

On 22 April there was a hearing in the High Court of my action against the Prime Minister and the Foreign Secretary, in which I seek a judicial review of their refusal to hold a referendum on whether the Lisbon Treaty should be ratified.

I am delighted to say that in his judgment delivered at the High Court on 2 May Mr Justice Owen decided that permission to apply for judicial review would be granted to me. In other words the result of the hearing was that we won.

Although I am the person bringing the action it is, in effect, on behalf of all those of us – well over half the population – who want our say in a referendum. There are, I believe, two reasons why there should be a referendum:
The Labour Party, as well as the other two main parties, made an unambiguous promise that they would call one. They should keep that promise.

The Treaty is immensely important and so, irrespective of whether you think it should be ratified or not, you should be allowed a vote on it.
The government appears to be rattled. Not content with having the leading treasury counsel, Philip Sales QC, who argued the government case at the April hearing, they have appointed Jonathan Sumption QC to lead him at the judicial review itself, which will be held on 9 and 10 June.

Jonathan Sumption is one of the most expensive QCs in practice. The potential costs if I lose the case, perhaps after it has gone all the way up to the judicial branch of the House of Lords, are now even higher than ever. So I am afraid this is a further request for financial help to anyone who can afford it.

I am very grateful indeed for those who have already given me financial support. If you would like to help please make cheques payable to Stuart Wheeler Lisbon Litigation Account and send them to me with this contribution form or, if you prefer, direct to my bankers: HSBC Bank, 40-05-50, account No 51484257 ‘Stuart Wheeler Lisbon Litigation Account’.

If you need to know anything else which is not covered by this website please e-mail me at litigation@stuartwheeler.co.uk

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinister secrets of the dustbin Nazis
19th May 2008

................He was the one who cranked up landfill taxes in his last 'green' budget to meet EU recycling targets, which is why councils are cutting back on collections in the first place.......................

..............In the name of protecting the planet, we are transporting our rubbish thousands of miles away to the other side of the world. It doesn't get much more environmentally friendly than that.
Of course, that won't stop Camden, or any other council, rigorously enforcing 'Variable Rate Pricing based on Pay As You Throw as a Tool of Urban Waste Management', as laid out in European directive 75/442/EEC.
Taxing and fining people and refusing to empty the dustbins every week isn't about 'climate change' or 'global warming'.
It's just another manifestation of our Punishment Culture, about showing us who's boss.

This is how Britain is now governed, through rules drawn up by German academics, at the behest of unelected bureaucrats in Belgium, and enforced by single-issue lunatics hired out of the jobs pages of The Guardian.
It's been going on for years, but in signing the European Constitution without a referendum, Gordon Brown consigned to the landfill site the last vestiges of our ability to govern ourself.
We no longer even have any say over how often our dustbins are emptied.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1020524/Sinister-secrets-dustb in-Nazis.html

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:

This is how Britain is now governed, through rules drawn up by German academics, at the behest of unelected bureaucrats in Belgium, and enforced by single-issue lunatics hired out of the jobs pages of The Guardian.



This is so nicely written and so on point. Your destiny laid out like a perfect wave. Choice is a right reserved for royals.
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Belated apologies to finally banned Europhile Rory Winter
New book - "The Nazi Roots of the Brussels EU"
The ‘Brussels EU’ is a political construct that functions as the global ‘politburo’ of the Oil and Drug Cartel. Its executive, the ‘EU Commission’, is appointed on behalf of corporate interests – it is not democratically elected.
This ‘Commissariat’ runs Europe with an ‘army’ of over 54,000 unelected career bureaucrats. In contrast, the 736 members of the ‘EU Parliament’ serve as an exchangeable fig-leaf for this regime and are unable to initiate legislation.
In the April 26, 2010 edition of this newspaper – and in supporting online documentation – Dr. Matthias Rath exposed the following sobering facts about the so-called ‘European Union’, the ‘Brussels EU’:
http://www.nazi-roots-of-brussels-eu.org/openletter.html
The ‘Brussels EU’ parades as the ‘government of Europe’ – but more than 99% of the people in Europe have been denied the right to vote on this political construct.
In 1945, the previous plans of the Cartel and its political stakeholders, the Nazis, to conquer and control Europe and the world were defeated. The launch of the ‘Brussels EU’ subsequently became the Cartel’s next attempt at this goal – under the deceptive banner of promoting security and prosperity.
Even the political instruments of the Nazi-era served as blueprints for the ‘Brussels EU’: The central vehicle for a post-WWII rule over Europe and the world under the Nazi/Cartel coalition was a ‘Central Cartel Office’. This Cartel Office became today’s ‘EU Commission’.
The Reaction of World Opinion
Within days after the first exposure of these historical facts in the ‘New York Times’ on April 23, 2010, the Euro fell to an all-time low on global markets. What was interpreted by some as an ‘attack’ by greedy investors on the ‘Euro’ was in fact much more – the resounding ‘No’ of world opinion to the Nazi-rooted ‘Brussels EU’. The financial markets reflected merely the tip of the iceberg for the fundamental loss of political credibility of this construct.
http://www.nazi-roots-of-brussels-eu.org

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