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kbo234
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 Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: Bombers did not know they were carrying bombs |
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On the preview of "Terrorstorm" by Alex Jones on this website's homepage, Alex says that the London police imitially said that they believed that the London bombers did not know they were carrying bombs.
Is this true?
Can anyone direct me to the news report that says this? |
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dodgy
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | 16 July 2005
EXCLUSIVE: WAS IT SUICIDE?
Why did they buy return train tickets to Luton? Why did they buy pay & display tickets for cars? Why were there no usual shouts of 'Allah Akhbar'? Why were bombs in bags and not on their bodies?
By Jeff Edwards
THE London bombers may have been duped into killing themselves so their secrets stayed hidden.
Police and MI5 are probing if the four men were told by their al-Qaeda controller they had time to escape after setting off timers. Instead, the devices exploded immediately.
A security source said: "If the bombers lived and were caught they'd probably have cracked. Would their masters have allowed that to happen? We think not."
The evidence is compelling: The terrorists bought return rail tickets, and pay and display car park tickets, before boarding _ a train at Luton for London. None of the men was heard to cry "Allah Akhbar!" - "God is great" - usually screamed by suicide bombers as they detonate their bomb.
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Notice the underscore in "before boarding _ a train" - maybe they were meant to fill that with the real train time?  |
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kbo234
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| Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks. Do you know in which paper this story was published? |
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dodgy
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PercyPenguin
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Bombers did not know they were carrying bombs |
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| kbo234 wrote: | Is this true?
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Well it appears to be fatally undermined - in at least two cases, by the videos that have come out, where they are clearly preparing for "martyrdom".... |
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Dog
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:33 am Post subject: |
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Crikey; you're one darned busy penguin, Percy.
'Think you've got the wrong party, sunshine. |
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Jayhawk
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| Yes but how do we explain the bombers videos? They look convincing enough. No one I know is seriously questioning if they're fakes. Like to know more views on this... |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Bombers did not know they were carrying bombs |
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| PercyPenguin wrote: | | kbo234 wrote: | Is this true?
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Well it appears to be fatally undermined - in at least two cases, by the videos that have come out, where they are clearly preparing for "martyrdom".... |
Yes and how considerate of al-qaeda's studios to release the videos whenever the UK or US govt.s are under pressure to investigate terrorist attacks further.
As for the videos - does anyone have a definitive transcript? or copy of the video?
There is considerable evidence that the 'bombers' were involved with the intellegence agencies. Their being involved with MI6 and their making these videos are not mutually exclusive. They could have easily been told that they were producing videos that would be used for MI6 training or something similar.
A 'confession' video is not sufficient to prove guilt if it does not fit in with the other relevant facts. |
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dodgy
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Jayhawk wrote: | | Yes but how do we explain the bombers videos? They look convincing enough. No one I know is seriously questioning if they're fakes. Like to know more views on this... |
Tanweer's video is still fresh in my memory, so my comments on that:
He does not mention London, trains, or bombs; He appears to be reading (badly) from a script; He lacks conviction - he constantly blinks and stutters; It's just a general purpose hatred statement imo if you take away the rest of the footage and narration which has been spliced in & could theoretically be used for a number of purposes.
Picture this: You go along to an audition for a movie, or a docu-drama, or something like that. At the audition, they ask you to wear this, read from that, and talk to the camera. You'd say whatever was in the script too, no matter how ridiculous it was. Not saying that's what happened, just trying to point out that the validity of the source should be questioned.
Just my opinions btw - it could well be that it is exactly what it is claimed to be, but I refuse to take anything at face value.
| Skeptic wrote: | | As for the videos - does anyone have a definitive transcript? or copy of the video? |
http://www.thesavedsect.com/articles/CurrentAffairs/Shehzad_Tanweer_Tr anscript.htm |
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Skeptic
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^ thanks
does anyone have a copy of the transcript/ video of Khan? |
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