Could Bush Be Prosecuted for War Crimes?

[navyseal2009]

why on gods green earth would we do it for ourselves WHY???

[navyseal2009]

and a 707 is quite a bit smaller then a 757

[DeFecToR]

Okay. Listen Navyseal, i feel i should offer somewhat of an apology. Perhaps you are someone who is genuinely misguided, and not here to grind some kind of warmongering axe. I am willing to give you the benifit of the doubt but it will be a very simple matter to find out just how you truely view the world. If you, like us, are on a search for TRUTH then you will put aside preconceived political/ideological notions and actually ANALYSE information we present to you.

[Steven Collins]

Nice one DeFecToR & welcome to the forum

Just to add that the good ol USA also actually fully encouraged Saddam to gas the Kurds. Wake up navyseal2009!! Wake up America!!
WAKE UP WORLD!!

Steve C

[navyseal2009]

ok first i do retract my statement and i apologize. all this information will take me a while to read but i will try to. But as im reading throughout the day exsplain to me why you belive we would kill our own citizens

[kbo234]

[Steven Collins]

navyseal2009

YOU or 'WE' wouldn't kill YOUR or OUR own people, but its the criminal CABAL that has taken over your & our country that would/has/does & will continue to unless people wake up & stop them, more importantly stop the 'people' who control them, afterall they're just puppets pushing an agenda, following orders. Did you know that Bush & Kerry are related? Did you know that Bush & the Queen are related? Did you know they all come from the same bloodline that goes back thousands of years? Did you know that Bush & Kerry belong to a 'secret' group called Skull & Bones? There's tons of info on the internet, I'm not saying its all true or factual, you have to research into stuff & follow your INTUITION & CONSCIENCE, if you haven't got any of those then try developing them. NOBODY NEED BE IN IGNORANCE!! Its all here right at your fingertips, go for it dude!!

Google OPERATION NORTHWOODS.

Check PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY www.newamericancentury.org in particular a document called Rebuilding Americas Defense's www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf & see how it was ALWAYS your government's intention to invade Iraq & Afghanistan & wherever else. They even want to democratise CHINA!! There's no such thing as true democracy. Its a complete SHAM!! They even rig the so-called 'voting machines'. You always/only get to choose to vote for people who have already been chosen for you. If by some lucky or very strange circumstance someone gets into power who the ELITE behind the scenes, the HIDDEN HAND, doesn't like because they know they won't play ball & refuse to follow the agenda then they get rid of them one way or another.

Check out these sites: www.infowars.com www.davidicke.com www.rense.com & THE SCORES OF 911 SITES.

Happy surfing

[DeFecToR]

Thank you for the retraction Navyseal. I have to admit, i am VERY incouraged by your willingness to read through the information we are providing. I can tell you are a GOOD man. What has happened to you has happened to TOO MANY of us. I myself believed what our leaders used to tell us. Seems like another lifetime now.

I COMPLETELY understand your question. "WHY??? Why the f**k would they do it to themselves? Us doing it to us? It doesnt make sense. The truth is, it is not US doing it to us, it is the very highest level of a GLOBAL elite. They are GLOBALISTS. NOT AMERICANS, OR BRITISH, OR ISRAELI. They believe in collectifying the entire planet under their control. Its what the UN, world bank, IMF, NATO etc is all about. Bringing as much control in to their hands as possible, and they will do ANYTHING to achieve this. In particular they will employ a technique called FALSE FLAG OPERATIONS

This is the definition of 'false flags' in Wikipedia;

"False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. Terrorist attacks may sometimes be in fact false flag operations, as in the Italian strategy of tension in which several bombings in the 1970s, attributed to far-left organizations, were in fact carried out by far-right organizations cooperating with the Italian secret services."


ALL the current large scale terrorist attacks taking place in the world are examples of false flag operations, including 911.

These operations are carried out by the most covert operatives on the planet, though knowledge of their actions are very well known and often overtly supported by all the major intelligence services in the world.

I know this seems ludacrus but just think, LOOK at what MI5, CIA, ISI, MOSSAD have done in the past. they've REPEATEDLY killed they're own countrymen to then blame enemies. Think about it.

Listen, i have to go to work. I'm going to be back on here again tomorrow. I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU NAVYSEAL!!!
I think if you keep a level head, and let the facts speak for themselves you may be one of the lucky ones. You might just see through the fog.
Rule number one though; TURN THAT F**KING TV OFF. At least until you know how to decode its bullsh*t. Its simply a tool for propaganda.

Good luck man.

[Newspeak International]

I too apologise for my comments last night.

Navyseal do you have a broadband connection?

If so this presentation is quite good:


http://www.911podcasts.com/files/video/Steven_Jones-UVSC_February_1_20 06/BYU_Professor_Steven_E_Jones-UVSC_February_1_2006_911_9-11_Lecture_ WTC-7_911TruthSeekers.org.wmv


Peace

N

[Newspeak International]

qwerty

[Wokeman]

navyseal2009,
You must see the DVD called 9/11Eyewitness made by the talented Rick Siegel, who filmed the collapse of the WTC from across the Hudson River in Hoboken. Brilliant! You'll be able to see clear evidence of the controlled demolition. If you see that evidence, the rest will follow.

[DeFecToR]

My head was spinning at work last night. SOOO many different areas that could be explored. Heads gone blank now...

I do hope some of this stuff helps you at least understand where people like us are coming from. I know it seems like we are all doped up conspiracy theorists with nothing better to do than think up lunatic theories. S**t, there are people who would love to see US in Guantanamo. If anything, i hope we can show you that our beliefs come NOT from some childish need to believe in something 'alternative', but that they come from serious PAINSTAKING analysis of EVIDENCE. NO ONE here wants this stuff to be true. God i wish the world was as simple as i thought it was five years ago, but it simply is not that way.

The truth is, our systems of society have for a long time been controlled by men who view the common man as cattle. They've rewritten history to make us believe we are run by the GOOD GUYS. They use a massive media machine to shape the minds of millions of people, and keep us in the dark about the true nature of our world. It seems too big, too big a lie to keep up.
THEY HAVE FAILED AT KEEPING IT UP. There are countless numbers of us accross the entire planet who have looked at the state of the world and asked the simple question WHY. They have stopped letting the mainstream media make up their minds for them and have rediscovered their own ability to THINK.

EMBRACE DOUBT.

Let yourself question everything you believe. That is any philosophers ONLY path to truth.

If we are wrong, we MUST admit it. But that can only come after we have been PROVED wrong.

The evidence for what we say is on OUR side.

Take this for example;

http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060629/OP INION02/606290310/1014

It is a story about how Rex Tomb, chief of investigative publicity for the FBI stated that the reason Bin Laden's 'most wanted' page at the FBI's website mentions nothing about 911 is because THEY HAVE NO HARD EVIDENCE LINKING HIM TO THE ATTACKS!!!
This is an FBI official COMING OUT AND SAYING IT!!!
Here is Bin Ladens FBI page;

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/terbinladen.htm

As you can see. it makes no mention of 911. It cant, and this is why;

Quote from Rex Tomb;

“The FBI gathers evidence. Once evidence is gathered, it is turned over to the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice then decides whether it has enough evidence to present to a federal grand jury. In the case of the 1998 United States Embassies being bombed, bin Laden has been formally indicted and charged by a grand jury. He has not been formally indicted and charged in connection with 9/11 because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting bin Laden to 9/11.”

This bombshell story of course will NEVER appear on CNN or FOX because they are entirely controlled media outlets.
I should note that this one peice of evidence is (in my mind) enough for the people of the USA and the people of the world to start asking some very tough questions.
Navyseal, there are THOUSANDS of bombshells like this.

Please. I BEG you. Come at this with an open mind. If something seems too nuts to handle, thats ok. Put it down and come back to it at a later date but never allow yourself to stop asking questions.

Good luck. We could do with you on our side.

[DeFecToR]

One other thing Navyseal. Where do you get your name from? Have you served in the military?