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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: according to bbc wtc 7 burned to the ground Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2497389.stm
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been 'invited' to attend a public meeting of the BBC governors tonight in Norwich. I had wondered whether to make the effort to go, wondering I should have the chance to ask a question.

I think I shall go now.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked at the link. Bloody hell! Straight out lies. The BBC seems to be no more than an outlet for Zionist propaganda.

Also, we look back on the times when Nazis punished (and massacred)whole communities for the actions of local militant resistance with disgust as well as horror. Now Israel kills 30/40+ per day every day, mostly civilians. it destroys power stations, bridges, airports.......and Europe/UK sits back being 'impartial'. By our inaction we are not impartial we are supporting the Devil.

Does anyone doubt that Zionist financial power controls our government? Jews control the media. Public opinion (people loathe the Gaza action, particularly) and even MP's opinions seem to matter not a jot.

By God, this country needs waking up.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewwatson wrote:
I have been 'invited' to attend a public meeting of the BBC governors tonight in Norwich. I had wondered whether to make the effort to go, wondering I should have the chance to ask a question.

I think I shall go now.


Go for it Andrew. Point out if you can the most glaringly inconsistent BBC report you can find. Embarrass them.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: also Reply with quote

I can't find the train times in their INDEPTH July 7 coverage.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_depth/uk/2005/london_explosions/default. stm

Of course, no mention of the John Reid statement about the incorrect train time.

Although they still have the incorrect gov report for download from the bbc website.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4760919.stm
on the right hand side
"REPORTS IN FULL
Official account of events "
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/11_05_06_narrative.pdf

So, no time-line before the mistake is admitted but this appears soon after
Tuesday, 11 July 2006, 20:07 GMT 21:07 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5170708.stm
Tuesday, 11 July 2006, 20:12 GMT 21:12 UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5032756.stm



In their 911 pages they have the melting point of steel at 800c

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/americas/2001/day_of_ terror/trade_center_disaster/3.stm
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This to Helen Boaden at BBC News:

Dear Helen Boaden,

I feel close to despair when confronted with the appalling slovenly mish-mash that passes as reporting on your website. It would embarass a first-time hack on a small-time local newspaper.

The subject in question is the rebuilding of World Trade Centre Seven by Larry Silverstein.

Your assertion that the original building World Trade Centre Seven ''burned to the ground after the twin towers collapsed'' is not supported by the evidence as provided by the official US report from the National Institute for Standards and Technology (N.I.S.T)

In its report , the Institute decided that, in the case of World Trade Centre Seven,

The NIST investigation team has formulated the following chronological sequence of major events leading to the eventual collapse of WTC 7:
• An initial local failure at the lower floors (below Floor 13) of the building due to fire and/or debris induced structural damage of a critical column (the initiating event), which supported a large span floor bay with an area of about 2,000 square feet.
• Vertical progression of the initial local failure up to the east penthouse, as large floor bays were unable to redistribute the loads, bringing down the interior structure below the east penthouse.
• Horizontal progression of the failure across the lower floors (in the region of Floors 5 and 7, that were much thicker than the rest of the floors), triggered by damage due to the vertical failure, resulting in the disproportionate collapse of the entire structure.

In summary , N.I.S.T. have stated that the building collapsed as a result of fires and structural damage and did not 'burn to the ground'
It may be also of interest that N.I.S.T. subsquently qualify this hypothesis as being ''of low probability''.
The alternative possibility is that the building was demolished by pre-positioned explosives. a view held by, among others, the German Defence Minister Andreas Von Bülow and the former head of the 'Star Wars 'programme , Dr Robert Bowman.
This is clearly evident from the many videos showing a near free-fall collapse of the entire structure in 6.5 seconds.

Further useful information can be found at:

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/attack/wtc7.html
http://st911.org
http://911proof.com
http://nineeleven.co.uk

The reason it is so important for the BBC to get its facts right is that the truth is a matter of concern to those whose relatives died that day.
A few minutes research could have avoided the situation where the BBC's competence as a news medium of record is to be called into question.

Yours sincerely


Andrew Lowe-Watson
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just looked at this link http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/americas/2001/day_of_ terror/trade_center_disaster/7.stm and according to the model, the BBC are claiming that THE ENTIRE WTC COMPLEX WAS DESTROYED.

The key illustrates that the buildings coloured in red were destroyed and they have coloured ALL SEVEN buildings red. Confused

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject: WTC revival begins in earnest Reply with quote

BBC wrote:
"It's a shaft of light welcoming you to the new site of the World Trade Center," said Mr Pataki.

Laughing Laughing Laughing

This is really taking the Pi** I can see them hanging a compass and set square above the entrance!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, the new "freedom tower" is a classic phallus design...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew,
The letter to Helen Boarden is great stuff, fully backed up by evidence.


"The 52-storey office tower will replace a slightly shorter building on the 7 World Trade Center site which burned to the ground after the twin towers collapsed."

The above is a piece of the most disgraceful "journalism" I think I have ever read. Helen Boarden should resign upon receiving your letter.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew

Did you get a reply yet ?

Are we to assume that the WTC7 "burned to the ground" edit has been made because of your letter since the edit was made after 13th July.

Looks like it to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great letter Andrew.

We are all awaiting her response.

Should be most interesting,

Peace,

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is their inadequate reply.


Dear Mr Lowe-Watson,

Thank you for your email. I have checked our archive and assume you mean a story entitled WTC revival begins in earnest.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2497389.stm

We have amended the text as it doesn't make the chain of events clear, so thanking you for drawing our attention to this. If your email is in response to another story, please don't hesitate to contact us.

Please be assured we do take our reporting very seriously and strive for accuracy.

Kind regards
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As you will see if you visit the site, wtc7 now 'collapsed in flames'. Not much of an improvement.

I tried again, this time enclosing a whole pager from Jim Hoffman's site.

Dear BBC News website,

I am sorry, but your website is still factually incorrect on the subject of the destruction of the first WTC7.
It did not ''collapse in flames". THe N.I.S.T. report concluded that it underwent structural collapse as a result of the fires caused by falling debris. It was not hit by an airliner and was separated from the Twin Towers by another block.
It was only the third steel-framed skyscraper in history to collapse due to fires, the other two being the Twin Towers.

For an alternative and widely supported view I refer you to the excellent site www.911research.wtc7.net, from which the following is taken.

Building 7

The September 11th Attack

Building 7 (also known as WTC 7) was a 47-story skyscraper that stood on the block immediately north of the block that contained the rest of the World Trade Center complex. Building 7 was shrouded in secrecy. Then-Mayor Rudolph Giuliani had a bunker on the 23rd floor.

Fires
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Photographs of Building 7 prior to its collapse show only small areas of fire.

Building 7 was not hit by any aircraft, and apparently did not suffer massive damage from the violent destruction of either of the Twin Towers. Small fires were observed in a few different parts of the building prior to its "collapse." Most of the fires were barely visible, and were not hot enough to cause window breakage, at least on the north side of the tower, of which there are photos shortly before the collapse. The largest observed fires were the ones visible on the southeast wall shown in the photograph.

Evacuation

Building 7 was supposedly evacuated around 9 AM. The area around the building was evacuated in the hour before the collapse. Photographer Tom Franklin, who took the famous photograph of firemen raising the American flag, said:
Firemen evacuated the area as they prepared for the collapse of Building Seven. 1

There are no photographs that show large fires in Building 7. Tom Franklin did not take any photos of the building before heeding firemen's orders to evacuate the area. Had there been large fires, one would expect that the professional photographer would have documented them.

Destruction

Building 7 underwent a total structural collapse at 5:20 PM. 2 Although there were few people in the area to witness its destruction, several videos captured the event. Like the collapses of the Twin Towers, the collapse of Building 7 commenced suddenly and was over in seconds. At first the penthouse, which rests on central columns, began to drop. Within a second the entire building began to drop as a whole, falling into its footprint in a precisely vertical fashion. The destruction of Building 7, which is not explained by the official theory, looked exactly like a standard controlled demolition.
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In under seven seconds Building 7 was transformed from a skyscraper to a tidy rubble pile.

It is commonly believed that "ancillary damage" from the collapses of the Twin Towers led to the collapse of WTC 7. In fact Building 7 was separated from the North Tower by Building 6 and Vesey Street. A photograph of its north facade taken in the afternoon shows isolated small fires, and not even a single window was broken.

I would also recommend a viewing of the following to give a general perspective on the events of 9/11 at the WTC.

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=911revisited

Yours sincerely

Andrew Lowe Watson

I got the following half-witted reply, and am sorry to say I chucked it.


Please provide the url for the particular story you are referring to. thank you..

So the national broadcasting service's archives are totally unresearched and inaccurate. Helen Boaden, wherever she is, should be replaced with someone of at least average competence.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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