Tue17Jun - TALKSPORT - Rodriguez & Vonkliest

[keithm]

Dave Vonkliest and William Rodriguez are on Talksport with Creepy Collins
on Tuesday night, between 10pm and 1am.

[Linda]

This will be amusing, Collins is so stoopid.

Dave Vonkliest, will never get through to Collins.

[keithm]

dave vonkliest will tear ian collins to shreads.-

[SHERITON HOTEL]

Was Collins the one sucking up to (hawkphttt) Guy Smith that time several months ago on Talksport? I recall whoever the presenter was saying to a caller, who informed him of the common knowledge that the FBI, moments after whatever impacted the Pentagon 911, went round confiscating CCTV security video evidence of the event from local private businesses... "you just made that up! showing his complete ignorance of even beginners 9/11!!

Has Dave von Kleist been forewarned about this Collins eejut's intention to do a hatchet job on him?

[Jayhawk]

Thus far (midnight) it's just von Kleist, and he's putting a very powerful case, except maybe the mention of pods, but he stays with the line of what is the evidence, and doesnt commit himself too far as to who is responsible, even turning the tables on Collins – Collins: "so someone planted a plane wheel?" [at the Pentagon]. vK: You said that, I didn't, you're the conspiracy theorist!"
Also he gave a good break down of what the term conspiracy theory actually means and how it's used. I'm impressed.

[andyb]

pods???????? FFS

[truthseeker john]

[kbo234]

[karlos]

I listened to some of it.
Collins virtually gave Dave Vonkleist the mike and let him talk freely.
I was very impressed with both Collins and Vonkleist.
Following on there was someone called Tom Rivers who allowed many phonecalls from people about the same subjects.
So a good evening for truth all round.

[Linda]

David Vonkliest was very good.

Collins still is a skeptic as he said at the end of the program.

He did read an email out my son Steve sent him telling him to WAKE UP COLLINS.

http://www.thepowerhour.com/

[TetraGrammatonCleric]

Collins is possibly playing it safe, doesn't want to get sacked like James Whale. I've got the DVD 'in plane sight' by the powerhour..Vonkleist puts forward an excellent description of 'conspiracy' in it. Is there an mp3 of this somewhere I missed it.

[karlos]

Collins has been with Talksport since inception so he wont be getting sack anytime soon.
Since Whale was sacked Talksport have obviously had complaints and lost listeners. Collins was transfered to fill Whales slot in an attempt to shore up the figures.

Talksport will be splitting into two channels later this year. One just sport and one just news talk.

[Jayhawk]

He did bang on about pods rather a lot, but he also had audio of several military types and pilots, including one who had actually flown flight 175, who were adamant that the planes were either not flights 11 and 175, or that they had some sort of additions to the fuselage.
You can't pick and choose what to accept - if these guys are genuine, you need to be open minded. Whether or not this is important at this stage I doubt. More crucial to get the overall facts out to a bigger audience I think.
No mention of WTC7 at all before I fell asleep...

[SHERITON HOTEL]

Has it been established whether a standard Boeing 767 travelling at that speed and trajectory could hit WTC 2 where it was hit and penetrate with nosecone and fuselage apparently intact as it appears in several film angles? I had intended to phone in last night to ask this but fell asleep and missed the whole thing.

[Stephen]

Did anyone recored it ? I feel asleep

[chrisc]

[andyb]

[spiv]

I abhor the use of the word "pod" (classic 'conspiracy theory' word), but nevertheless I have to concede that from the images of the underside of the plane which slammed into the South Tower, there are some anomolies, IMO, regarding the odd look of the underside of the plane.

The top left image shown on the banner of our Cornish website shows this anomoly, and it is certainly nothing like the underside of a regular passenger aircraft. I don't know what it is, neither do I have any theories, but it is not the usual shape.

[andyb]

Like ALL theories, best avoided though. I first heard about all this after reading the Michael Meacher article in 2003, went online to research further and came across the pod theories and the cognitive dissonance kicked in and I dismissed all this as 'conspiracy theory' nonsense. It wasn't until about 18 months later and hearing about Building 7 that i became interested again. People will naturally look for any excuse to dismiss this all as conspiracy theory nonsense and we must take this into account

[fish5133]

Thing with pods and NPT are that they are pieces of a jigsaw , for some they fit into the picture and for others they are from a different box. The only comfort IMO is that in arriving at pods or NPT the researcher has usually come across enough real evidence to acknowledge the official account is not right. I tend to get suspicious if the emphasis is on either of these things when IMO there is factual stuff (speed of collapse, exploding rather than collapsing etc).
I am encouraged that there appears to be more MSM listening