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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject:
Considering so many titter at Mr Ickes reptilian bloodline theory they are quite happy to believe they of a monkey bloodline.
The Biblical account of the Nephalim (sons of God) is interesting in that they are only mentioned a couple of times (Genesis 6 and Numbers 13) Chronologically this appears to be either side of Noah and the flood which from a Bible perspective would mean that the nephilim bloodline would have passed through Noah, his wife or his sons wives given that all else was destroyed.
The usual problem with Joye Pugh is that she claims to have "possibly" identified the antichrist and that it will cost you $12.95 plus post and packing to find out
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"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
Considering so many titter at Mr Ickes reptilian bloodline theory
The usual problem with Joye Pugh is that she claims to have "possibly" identified the antichrist and that it will cost you $12.95 plus post and packing to find out
it is a good point u put
if the information is really vital or could save lives it would be given free unless they was the anti christ
Although she's right about some things she contradicts herself because she's still looking at things through the filter of religion. Here's some thoughts which are somewhat closer to the truth.
The Hebrew word Elohim is referring to a number of beings and these made us in their own image and likeness. This is why angels look like us or rather it is we who look like them. According to the Sumerian texts they did this by mixing primitive man’s DNA with their own and like it or not, much of the bible has been taken from such earlier writings and Abram (Abraham) came from the Sumerian city of Ur.
The Jews (and a few others) say that the plural meaning of words translated as ‘God’ is because of God’s majesty or greatness but most Christians say it’s to do with the Trinity. Which is it? Well, it’s neither really and “let us make man in our image” (Genesis 1:26) is referring to a group of creatures, as other ancient texts clearly confirm.
It was also these beings which after the ‘fall' said, “the man has now become as one of us, to know good and evil.” Genesis 3:22
The words “to know” (or “knowing” in some translations of the bible) have a meaning of doing and having experience with, rather than just knowing that something exists. So how could a God who is perfect and good, have experience with or have done anything bad? It then becomes obvious that this is referring to a number of beings who are individuals.
Then how could we become like God ("as one of us") through the sin of partaking from the forbidden tree? The forbidden fruit represents having knowledge to decide for ourselves what is good and evil - hence we have the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which Adam (man) and Eve (woman) wasn’t to touch. It was forbidden because the ‘fruit’ of knowledge leads to deciding for ourselves what is right and wrong, but we were created to be worker-slaves for ‘God’ (in reality “God” was the Annunaki, not the "God of all"that the Annunaki themselves often mention).
The idea that we are ‘born in sin’ is like saying that our intellect and self-will is forbidden and that we should not think for ourselves, even though we were made in Annunaki’s ‘image’ and have some of their DNA in us … so religion and religious doctrines were invented to hide knowledge and make people confused with religious nonsense and doublethink. Also, from time to time our DNA has been damaged in order to dumb us down and also shorten our lifespan, so we don’t have as much time to acquire knowledge and wisdom. One example at Genesis 6:3 where man’s lifespan is reduced to 120 years then later it has been shortened further as even shown in the Psalms.
The ‘Sons of God’ of Genesis 6 came down and married the ‘daughters of men’ much later than the creation of modern humans. The Nephilim were not the 'fallen angels' but their hybrid offspring that were born to already hybrid human women. They were the giants and were bullies who caused the smaller and weaker human (hybrid) people to fall. They were the 'men of fame.'
The ‘name of Jesus’ is referring to a reputation - although it’s likely that there wasn’t a real historical Jesus (whom the Bible calls a man), who walked on water, healed the sick, forgave sin and rose from the dead. Rather than a real person Jesus represents a symbolic figure - so what does the story of Jesus (and many others) mean?
Have we seen the Sun 'walking' on water? The Son represents the Sun which brings us light, warmth and new life and it is that reputation of life-giving qualities which people invoke when they call on the ‘name’ of Jesus and they may as well say, “in the name of love”, "in the name of truth", “in the name of life” and so on. Christians say they don't believe in magic, yet they use the name 'Jeesus' in a magical way and such is the doublethink we find in religion.
Then the bible mentions the day-star (2 Peter 1:19) rising in our hearts and some assume this is Venus but it’s referring to the Sun, which gives us warmth and feelings of compassion that represent love and life. People are generally more friendly on a sunny day than a rainy day. We tend to feel better about people when the Sun shines, notice that?
So why is this? The Sun has chemical affects on the body and spiritual effects on the mind and heart and that’s one reason why that in ancient times, the Sun was known as God’s Sun, the light of the world, which is not God but represents God, the power of the universe, the God of all. So no, they didn’t actually worship the Sun as God at first but along the way it got mixed up and confused in religion.
I could go on but it likely will fall on deaf ears because people have their Faith which blinds them from thinking… that is, through religion people are deterred from the forbidden fruit of thinking for themselves but instead are told what to think and what many people believe is through doctrines which act as a filter on the mind.
One thing should be clear, the bible has been translated in such a way as to hide things and therefore the bible is an occult book. The word occult comes from the Latin word occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occult But the ‘Church’ didn’t want people to know, so occult was given demonic connotations and people have been told that the bible isn’t occult, even though the bible contains many hidden (occult) things! That’s just one example of the doublethink we find in religion…
John _________________ "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." - Euripides
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." - Albert Einstein
"To find yourself, think for yourself" - Socrates
I don't really have much energy for reading at the moment.
But what I've read of what you have written feels very good and clear.
And re: 'Of all the communities available to us, there is not one I would want to devote myself to except for the society of the true seekers, which has very few living members at any one time. Albert Einstein'
So that's why I don't fit in. No criticism of anyone here; I've had a load of things happen to me which have so often indicated that open truth and open personal honesty (as in not hiding what we feel, think, hope, observe, etc.) is so important. For me, open honesty with people is like oxygen.
Your pal up in Scotland, Michael _________________ THE GATHERING
http://worldgathering.net
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Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 577 Location: Yorkshire
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject:
You are my brother, Mike. _________________ "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." - Euripides
"No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." - Albert Einstein
"To find yourself, think for yourself" - Socrates
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