Post 9/11 Anthrax Attacks - 'Suspect' Found Dead

[scubadiver]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7536890.stm

[scienceplease]

Should we have a suspicious suicide count for 2008?

Police Chief Michael Todd and the 2 other policemen dying the same weekend
DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey
Any others? (Let's not include the suicide bombers...)

[outsider]

And here:

Note that Kevin Barrett's point about Tom Daschle & Patrick Leahy being the stumbling-blocks to the passing of the 'Patriot Act' are ommitted from both the AP & BBC News reports - surprise, surprise, surprise!!!

News Headline Show: No Lies News! http://noliesradio.org/ This is radio news with an attitude! Catch it before the FCC hears it and sends me to Guantanamo.

No Lies News Transcripts for the Week Ending 7/11/08

Friday 8/1

In today's top story...the AP is reporting that leading germ weapons scientist Bruce Ivins has died in an alleged suicide just prior to being charged by the FBI for the 2001 anthrax attacks. Skeptics are already pointing out how convenient it will be for the government to blame a dead patsy for the still-unsolved crimes. The anthrax attacks targeted Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy, the two main roadblocks in the path of the so-called Patriot Act. They piggybacked on 9/11 and featured scrawled messages lamely attempting to implicate Muslims. One leading suspect, Dr. Phillip Zack, has never been charged or even named by the corporate monopoly media. Zack was caught on videotape sneaking into Ft. Detrick germ warfare labs after he had been fired for harrassing a Muslim co-worker. Whoever mailed the anthrax also attempted to frame that same Muslim co-worker in letters mailed before the attacks were public knowledge


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gH1fcT1QrjvwIaAZTO63_lxHs9EQD929AMO O0

[outsider]

Couple of 'Brasscheck' video clips:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/392.html

[simplesimon]

Michael Rivero of www.whatreallyhappened.com has taken a keen interest in this:

[scubadiver]

[blackcat]

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/01/anthrax/index.html

[scienceplease]

Concerning the Iraq connection:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/16889

[outsider]

Quite clearly, the FBI was intent on leaving no stone unturned; which is doubtless why it took six years to decide to bring charges. It was, of course, an extremely complex case, with thousands of possible suspects (well, OK, so tens of possible suspects!!). No wonder, faced with such a doughty clan of fearless investigators, the 'evildoer' took his own life.
Eat your heart out, Sherlock Holmes!
Blimey, I'm glad the FBI's on our side....

Of course, those who say the poor guy might be innocent, are the same one's who would laughably claim that OBL wasn't responsible for 9/11...

[outsider]

'Brasscheck' clips on the anthrax saga:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/393.html

[blackbear]

Hello outsider....maybe of interest:

Anthrax suspect dies in apparent suicide

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=19598

78 comments...

[TonyGosling]

Bruce Ivins was a juggler, a gardener, a church musician, a Red Cross volunteer — and a suspected multiple murderer, federal authorities said.



Some who knew him scoffed at the government’s assertion that Ivins sent the anthrax letters that killed five people and sickened 17 in the fall of 2001. But court documents indicate the outwardly mild-mannered Ivins had a menacing side.

Documents show that Ivins recently received psychiatric treatment and that he was ordered last week to stay away from Jean Duley, a social worker who counseled [yeah right - ed.] him. In her handwritten application for a protective order, Duley wrote that Ivins had stalked and threatened to kill her and had a long history of homicidal threats.
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W. Russell Byrne, a colleague who worked in the bacteriology division of the Fort Detrick research facility, said Ivins was “hounded” by FBI agents and was hospitalized for depression last month.

Byrne and local police said Ivins was removed from his workplace out of fears that he might harm himself or others.

“I think he was just psychologically exhausted by the whole process,” Byrne said.

Still, Byrne did not think the probe would result in charges.

“If he was about to be charged, no one who knew him well was aware of that and I don’t believe it,” he said.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2008/08/03/2003419282

[outsider]

What was the guy's name who 'committed suicide' (was thrown out of a window by two Mafia hitmen hired by the CIA) in, I think, the sixties?
He had discovered torture was being used by CIA in Europe, was extremely unhappy about it, and was considered a 'security risk' by CIA?
I think it was to do with MK/Ultra.

[outsider]

[blackcat]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/scientists-question-fbi-probe-on-anthrax-i vins-could-not-have-been-attacker-some-say.html

[blackcat]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/the-anthrax-attack-was-a-classic-false-fla g-operation-targeting-arabs.html

[Stefan]

Ex Head Of Bio-Weapons Section Of Unscom: Bruce Ivins Wasn't the Anthrax Culprit

[scubadiver]

I have spent time creating an A5 leaflet that would be ideal for waking people up.

What with the media attention that has been given to this, I think this could be the key.

[Stefan]

Can we see it?

One thing I would say is that this story is in the "clusterf*ck" period at this point in time, in the next few weeks a lot more information will be out and it will be a lot easier to see what is true and what is a lie.

Gathering info for a couple of weeks will no doubt create a very strong argument.

[TonyGosling]

Let's have a look at the leaflet. We might learn something.
It's incredibly shifty - the biological signature coming from Fort Detrick 'n all.

Yerright, could blow the whole thing wide open - the perps must be getting cocky, or desperate?

Fort Detrick Scientist "Commits Suicide" as Anthrax investigation closes in
by Wayne Madsen
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MAD200 80802&articleId=9730
Global Research, August 2, 2008

Bruce Ivins, a microbiologist at the US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID) at Fort Detrick, Maryland, reportedly committed suicide after ingesting prescription-strength Tylenol and codeine, as the FBI prepared to charge him in the anthrax attacks weeks after the 9/11 attack in 2001.
Ivins was part of the FBI team that investigated the anthrax sent in letters to the Senate's Democratic leadership.
In March of this year, Fox News reported: ""The FBI has narrowed its focus to 'about four' suspects in the 6 1/2-year investigation of the deadly anthrax attacks of 2001, and at least three of those suspects are linked to the Army'™s bio-weapons research facility at Fort Detrick in Maryland . . . Among the pool of suspects are three scientists '” a former deputy commander, a leading anthrax scientist and a microbiologist '” linked to the research facility, known as USAMRIID. The FBI has collected writing samples from the three scientists in an effort to match them to the writer of anthrax-laced letters that were mailed to two U.S. senators and at least two news outlets in the fall of 2001, a law enforcement source confirmed." It is now believed that the microbiologist in question was Ivins. The other suspects have not yet been identified. Although the FBI said the four Fort Detrick personnel were suspects, WMR previously reported that some Fort Detrick personnel were in a whistleblower status concerning knowledge of the perpetrators of the anthrax attacks......................

The "secret information" about the anthrax attacks is now leaking out in a torrent and the perpetrator, as many suspected seven years ago, is the U.S. government. So the question begs to be asked -- if the U.S. government would subject its own citizens to a bio-warfare terrorist attack, could it have also engineered plane hijackings and the demolition of the World Trade Center with the assistance of Saudi, Israeli agents, and private military contractor agents? The record now suggests the answer to that question is a clear and very loud "Yes."

[xmasdale]

Strange! I posted this or something like it but it seems to have disappeared from the thread.

The issue of the Anthrax attacks was omitted from the BBC Conspiracy Files documentary, but may have some bearing as to who was behind the 9/11 attacks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

In the immediate aftermath of 9/11 anthrax spores were posted, in two waves, firstly to news media and, three weeks later, to two powerful Democrat senators who were holding up the passing of the Patriot Bill in Congress and endeavouring to amend it in order to protect some of the US civil liberties which were to be abolished by its passage. All the envelopes were posted in Trenton, New Jersey. This crime remains unsolved.

Beginning on September 18th 2001, envelopes containing Anthrax spores were posted to the offices of: ABC News, CBS News, NBC News, The New York Post and The National Enquirer, published by AMI. The first person to die from the mailings, worked at a tabloid called Sun also published by AMI. In all 22 people were infected of whom five died.

Three weeks later, October 9th, two further letters were posted to two Democrat Party senators, Tom Daschle of South Dakota and Patrick_Leahy of Vermont. Daschle was the Senate Majority leader and Leahy head of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Both had been identified in the media, as holding up the proposed Patriot Act because of concerns that some parts of it would violate civil liberties.

Both senators capitulated after the anthrax attack.

Assuming correctness of the US government theory that the 9/11 attacks were a conspiracy by Islamic militants, should suspicion fall on al Qaeda for the anthrax attacks too? What would they gain from the Patriot Act, with its curtailment of liberties, being passed? Wouldn’t they find it more difficult to operate after the Act had been passed? If the terrorists were just disturbed individuals motivated by a hatred of freedom, as the White House has alleged, any reasoning is possible. But do people really undertake suicide missions on civilians because they hate freedom, or do they do it in an attempt to right or to avenge injustices? What would al Qaeda gain from getting the American public and media very scared - a US attack on their homelands in the Middle East? Would that not only add to the injustices they were allegedly suffering?

Following the qui bono (who benefits?) principle those who wanted the Patriot bill to be passed unamended, curbing traditional US liberties, would appear to have a motive. The first wave, targeting news media, would appear to be an attempt to intimidate journalists. Why? To persuade them to write articles in support of the Patriot Act? To persuade them that to tell the public that it is not only the inhabitants of major US cities who are liable to terrorist attacks, but that anyone in the US could receive the deadly spores through the post? To get everyone very scared?

It should be remembered that there was a powerful Neocon faction in the US government who had announced in advance that they intended to pursue an aggressive foreign policy. In a document entitled "Rebuilding America’s Defenses" published before the Bush government came to power, they argued that the US should "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars," and added: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor".

So one is led to wonder whether some Neocon sympathisers feared the 9/11 attacks had not been a sufficiently powerful catalysing event to bring about the "revolutionary change" that the Neocons desired, that the Patriot Act might be watered down by the Democrat opposition.

[scubadiver]

[blackcat]

They know who did it and the FBI are taking a hugely circuitous route to avoid taking him in as he belongs to a group who must never be guilty. He is a former employee, Dr. Philip Zack, who was videotaped sneaking into the supposedly secured facility where pathogens were stored, assisted by his "good friend" Dr. Marian Rippy. Haven't you wondered why Dogsmilk and his lickspittles aren't all over threads like this?

[TetraGrammatonCleric]

found this article from Dec. , 2003 - they've been covering for the real culprit for a long time.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/12/2/173048.shtml

theres loads about this on whatreallyhappened.com if you look back through the archives.

"There is no question that the anthrax used was weaponized, and tests confirm that the Anthrax used in the letters came from the strain kept at Fort Detrick. The problem is that the FBI already HAS a suspect, a man caught entering the storage area where the Anthrax was kept AFTER he had lost his job over a racially motivated attack on an Egyptian co-worker. But for "some reason", Dr. Philip Zack remains immune from investigation while the FBI, urged on by Dr. Barbara Rosenberg, has made Dr. Hatfill's life a living hell."

[Whitehall_Bin_Men]

Those suspect envelopes and letters again lest we dare consider they may have been sent by someone other than a Muslim.

[TetraGrammatonCleric]

[blackcat]

[TetraGrammatonCleric]

[blackcat]

[TetraGrammatonCleric]

to be honest i can't be arsed with arguments that descend into that..im after the truth , no matter where it lies- I think humanity has been lied to enough - i've noticed alot of the exchanges on here are like that - you're a this, or a that , and they try and label you. Its very tiring - if the evidence points in a certain direction then it should be followed. There's a quote from that film JFK , Jim Garrison originally I think who said "let the truth be known though the heavens fall" and I agree with that. Looks like we're on the same page blackcat, I agree with most, if not all your posts.