Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 2:06 pm Post subject: Nico Haupt, Paula Gloria, Howard Stern Bring 911 Global
For whatever fault you might like to place on him Nico Haupt has taken the 911 conspiracies to the global audience. In the last week he has orchestrated no less than 4 hours of prime time radio on one of the most listened to radio shows in the USA. They then gave them their own 1 hour national radio show! This is not some web or shortwave but real national radio with millions of listeners - freaks - but listeners.
At some point in time it is hoped that you sit down and watch Nico and realize you are dealing with a freak artist and watch the show. This latest one was an incredible mix that has got them actual offers for their own national radio show.
This is not the pansy assed Genesis or blogtalkcrapola this is real national networked radio that is also on subscription satellite radio. Broadcast during drive time to cars and listeners. There are call in people were calling and they were popular.
Again, it matters not how you believe or not Nico has done what no one else has done.
In fact the idea of waving a fictional (admitted sci fi) novels as a way of getting people to believe in whatever farce you may be passing at the moment is no different than just accepting the art Nico presents. When presented with the Nico Hitler character or the Paula insipid voice tree hugger a whole entertainment theme emerges. Have you ever seen what Nico does at Ground Zero? He does a show. He tries to attract attention and gets people to think. He is out there doing it and madly so.
On the other hand we of the great pontification do not take it to this higher level and in fact many of you complain that Nico should not get his moments. What have you done to get your moment? I have seen no one accomplish what Nico has.
I am encouraging Nico and Paula to take the new job. Pays money and fame for their project. It will be wildly entertaining. I have seen nothing from the 911floggers coming close. An idiotic professor Jones who now claims that there is an upward motion to collapsing buildings? What a total failure. And you think Nico is doing damage?
Jones talks nonsense to the church. Nico is out where the enemy lives. In one week he brings more people to the ideas than any of the other efforts I have seen in the several years watching this bull.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject:
OK, screw the diplomacy:
Nico's a clown. The last thing 9-11 truth needs is a couple of clowns with a worldwide audience purporting to speak for the whole movement. It's like having Stepin Fetchit speaking for the black civil rights movement in the US. _________________ The answer to 1984 is 1776!
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:01 pm Post subject: Re: Nico Haupt, Paula Gloria, Howard Stern Bring 911 Global
911Eyewitness wrote:
An idiotic professor Jones who now claims that there is an upward motion to collapsing buildings?
Upward motion, Rick?
Are you sure you haven't misunderstood the (missing) upward force which should have resisted collapse? That's what I saw him describe in his last presentation.
911Eyewitness wrote:
And you think Nico is doing damage?
In his own small fringe way, yes he is.
Maybe repellant will one day become attractive, but I think a new investigation will precede that in any case.
911Eyewitness wrote:
Nico is out where the enemy lives. In one week he brings more people to the ideas than any of the other efforts I have seen in the several years watching this bull.
GO NICO!
So you're of the any publicity is good publicity school of thought?
Remind me to remind you of that if you were ever to get busted for kid porn. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: Re: Nico Haupt, Paula Gloria, Howard Stern Bring 911 Global
chek wrote:
911Eyewitness wrote:
An idiotic professor Jones who now claims that there is an upward motion to collapsing buildings?
Upward motion, Rick?
Are you sure you haven't misunderstood the (missing) upward force which should have resisted collapse? That's what I saw him describe in his last presentation.
Yep, you are blind as a bat and even when you express it you still deny it. That mysterious missing upward natural force. You know? When an incompetent idiot trys to explain one of Newton's laws so that it is so stupid even a child (sorry you did not qualify) can see what convoluted idiocy it is?
chek wrote:
if you were ever to get busted for kid porn.
You and Jayhan... tut tut always in the gutter. If I do not hang out with you there is no chance of that. You should delete that stuff from your computer before they get you chek. Bad form there too mate and shows your lack of intelligence. Keep it coming.
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:07 am Post subject:
jfk wrote:
Quote:
Nico's a clown. The last thing 9-11 truth needs is a couple of clowns with a worldwide audience purporting to speak for the whole movement.
so do you think bill hicks should have shut his gob?
Bill Hicks has been dead for 13 years, so I'm not seeing what he has to do with 9-11 truth.
His bit about JFK's head going back and to the left is even in the Zapruder film (unless you figure that's fakery too, I'm not sure how you'd dispute that). And the part about not having the correct line of sight from the book depository window is certainly worthy of consideration. I don't recall him having a "no bullet" theory and going around harassing and attacking those who thought differently.
I don't have a huge problem with Nico having his own theories. I *do* have a huge problem with him becoming the outward face of the truth movement, ESPECIALLY given how much more qualified Alex Jones, Luke Rudkowski, and a host of others are to play that role. _________________ The answer to 1984 is 1776!
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: Re: Nico Haupt, Paula Gloria, Howard Stern Bring 911 Global
911Eyewitness wrote:
can see what convoluted idiocy it is?
Indeed, seems to me I'm corresponding with it at this very moment.
Take a tip Rick - leave the brain stuff to the higher vertebrates. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
OK, screw the diplomacy:
It's like having INSERT YOUR OWN IDIOT speaking for the INSERT YOUR OWNT movement in the US.
OK, you are an idiot.
You have a choice. Sit in these stupid forums whacking the jack like chek does or DOING something. Nico does things. You do not. Whomever does something will get it done. The fact is 911truthers like you and chek barely get out to pay some money to see bad videos, hand out nonsense paper and the like. You do not go out and get yourself on BBC or any national radio or TV. Nico did. No one stops Jones from doing it but himself.
Why don't you stand and speak for yourself and let others do the same? You some kind of socialist communist wipes? You need everyone to suck the same cleaning fluid you do? You need your mummy to make sure everyone wears the same shirt as you?
Nico never stopped you from getting whatever message you wanted out. He gets what he wants out. Are you so dense you do not fathom the depth of freedom to allow? You speak as if he is your spokesman carrying your message and failed you. You are so wraped in YOU. You are an idiot.
You are all so lame you cannot get out and get yourselves and YOUR stupid message in mass media? So anyone getting their own message out who did not suck your titty for his juice is bad? Have the royals got you people so stupefied that you need to march in a line behind SOMEONE, ANYONE with a good haircut so you get your dole and peace of mind?
You take news and make rubber baby biscuits out of it. Useless baggage. Sponges sucking off others energy trying to put your dark ideas on everyone.
What you need Dallas is to take your silly Texas nickers and show Nico how it is done. Go get on national radio and pass the "real" message.
The chances of that? We have more chances of seeing a nuclear explosion in London this morning than Dallas actually getting whatever lame message he has on any form or national outlet.
Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:32 am Post subject: Re: Nico Haupt, Paula Gloria, Howard Stern Bring 911 Global
chek wrote:
911Eyewitness wrote:
can see what convoluted idiocy it is?
Indeed, seems to me I'm corresponding with it at this very moment.
Take a tip Rick - leave the brain stuff to the higher vertebrates.
Yeah, give us some more info on this new mystery Upward forces on falling buildings chek? You invertebrates can’t take it when your face is put in your feces?
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:45 am Post subject:
911Eyewitness wrote:
Dallas wrote:
OK, screw the diplomacy:
It's like having INSERT YOUR OWN IDIOT speaking for the INSERT YOUR OWNT movement in the US.
OK, you are an idiot.
You have a choice. Sit in these stupid forums whacking the jack like chek does or DOING something. Nico does things. You do not. Whomever does something will get it done. The fact is 911truthers like you and chek barely get out to pay some money to see bad videos, hand out nonsense paper and the like. You do not go out and get yourself on BBC or any national radio or TV. Nico did. No one stops Jones from doing it but himself.
Why don't you stand and speak for yourself and let others do the same? You some kind of socialist communist wipes? You need everyone to suck the same cleaning fluid you do? You need your mummy to make sure everyone wears the same shirt as you?
Nico never stopped you from getting whatever message you wanted out. He gets what he wants out. Are you so dense you do not fathom the depth of freedom to allow? You speak as if he is your spokesman carrying your message and failed you. You are so wraped in YOU. You are an idiot.
You are all so lame you cannot get out and get yourselves and YOUR stupid message in mass media? So anyone getting their own message out who did not suck your titty for his juice is bad? Have the royals got you people so stupefied that you need to march in a line behind SOMEONE, ANYONE with a good haircut so you get your dole and peace of mind?
You take news and make rubber baby biscuits out of it. Useless baggage. Sponges sucking off others energy trying to put your dark ideas on everyone.
What you need Dallas is to take your silly Texas nickers and show Nico how it is done. Go get on national radio and pass the "real" message.
The chances of that? We have more chances of seeing a nuclear explosion in London this morning than Dallas actually getting whatever lame message he has on any form or national outlet.
Actually, smart guy:
1) My real name is Dallas. Has nothing to do with Texas.
2) I'm out at GZ most Saturdays distributing We Are Change pamphlets and various 9-11 truth DVDs. You may have seen the video of Nico putting his hands on the throat of a We Are Change member @ GZ and having someone else step in to back him off? That was me telling Nico to back the * up.
3) Yes, Nico does have a better chance of being on TV than I do. People tend to prefer fluff and buffoonery on TV to the truth.
That's a whole lot of ad hom and pure bull to pack into one post Rick.... _________________ The answer to 1984 is 1776!
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: Re: Nico Haupt, Paula Gloria, Howard Stern Bring 911 Global
911Eyewitness wrote:
Yeah, give us some more info on this new mystery Upward forces on falling buildings chek?
Considering you're someone who apparently doesn't seem to know the difference between force and motion Rick, I'm not sure I'd feel confident instructing you in tieing your own shoelaces. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
I think we have all figured Nico is a 'freak artist', like whoa man that's weally wadical. He certainly isn't a civil engineer, a demolition engineer, an AV engineer or any other kind of scholar.
Where I agree with you is that Nico should be applauded in taking the initiative and just doing what he's doing as he sees fit and not waiting for anyone's permission. Everyone should be encouraged to speak their own truth and take the initiative.
Where I disagree with you is that what Nico is choosing to do is worth a * or that anyone beyond the cocooned world of 9/11 truth will have even noticed Nico's big media breakthrough this week, let alone be even vaguely impressed by it.
Also I fail to see that Nico is much of a role model when it comes to leaving cyberspace alone. If there is one person who personifies a forum/blogging obcessive, it is surely Nico. Name anyone who is more prolific?
At the end of the day, one person's 'freak artist' is another person's major league *
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject:
ian neal wrote:
Rick
I think we have all figured Nico is a 'freak artist', like whoa man that's weally wadical. He certainly isn't a civil engineer, a demolition engineer, an AV engineer or any other kind of scholar.
Where I agree with you is that Nico should be applauded in taking the initiative and just doing what he's doing as he sees fit and not waiting for anyone's permission. Everyone should be encouraged to speak their own truth and take the initiative.
Where I disagree with you is that what Nico is choosing to do is worth a * or that anyone beyond the cocooned world of 9/11 truth will have even noticed Nico's big media breakthrough this week, let alone be even vaguely impressed by it.
Also I fail to see that Nico is much of a role model when it comes to leaving cyberspace alone. If there is one person who personifies a forum/blogging obcessive, it is surely Nico. Name anyone who is more prolific?
At the end of the day, one person's 'freak artist' is another person's major league *
If Nico acted the way he does just for performance art, I'd probably be mildly amused. However, like I said - he is the 9-11 truth analogue of Stepin Fetchit... and when you have Stepin Fetchit trying to be taken seriously as a leader of your movement, you've got a big problem. _________________ The answer to 1984 is 1776!
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject:
Dallas wrote:
jfk wrote:
Quote:
His bit about JFK's head going back and to the left is even in the Zapruder film (unless you figure that's fakery too,
yes the zapruder film is tampered with
Can you please provide links to evidence of this?
Handle with care - they'll no doubt be via Fetzer's previous life. Plus jfk is the least discriminating no planer on Earth, which makes his analytical capacity wanting in a majorly big time kinda way. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
For whatever fault you might like to place on him Nico Haupt has taken the 911 conspiracies to the global audience. In the last week he has orchestrated no less than 4 hours of prime time radio on one of the most listened to radio shows in the USA. They then gave them their own 1 hour national radio show! This is not some web or shortwave but real national radio with millions of listeners - freaks - but listeners.
I'm already familiar with nico's antics but must admit that paula gloria has passed me by up to now - so against my better judgement I clicked on your link and listened to her stern show appearance, which turned out to be about as bad as I expected. stern obviously wanted a freak show and she gave him one - coming across as a dazed and confused acid casualty who's orbiting around planet numpty.
not much of the interview was about 9/11 or no-planes - the discussion mostly centred around subjects like paula's public access show, the prank callers who regularly appear on the show, paula's sex life, how paula styles her pubes etc....
I'm hoping that jesse ventura's subsequent appearance on the stern show managed to repair the damage done by paula's....
I think we have all figured Nico is a 'freak artist', like whoa man that's weally wadical. He certainly isn't a civil engineer, a demolition engineer, an AV engineer or any other kind of scholar.
Where I agree with you is that Nico should be applauded in taking the initiative and just doing what he's doing as he sees fit and not waiting for anyone's permission. Everyone should be encouraged to speak their own truth and take the initiative.
Where I disagree with you is that what Nico is choosing to do is worth a * or that anyone beyond the cocooned world of 9/11 truth will have even noticed Nico's big media breakthrough this week, let alone be even vaguely impressed by it.
Also I fail to see that Nico is much of a role model when it comes to leaving cyberspace alone. If there is one person who personifies a forum/blogging obcessive, it is surely Nico. Name anyone who is more prolific?
At the end of the day, one person's 'freak artist' is another person's major league *
If Nico acted the way he does just for performance art, I'd probably be mildly amused. However, like I said - he is the 9-11 truth analogue of Stepin Fetchit... and when you have Stepin Fetchit trying to be taken seriously as a leader of your movement, you've got a big problem.
Nahh, not for me. You make him that. Is he "a leader of your movement"? Not mine. You, you, you are assuming and pushing your expectations on Nico, he can only be who he is. If you have not figured it out then you are needed somewhere else.
The example does not have to be in the arts, his example is in his willingness to get his message out in every way he can. Disagreeing is a chump’s excuse to drink more beer watch the tele letting others do the dirty work.
His example does not mean you should go on Howard Stern, but you could get your ass on BBC. How? That is what the example is and where you can see if you can match Nico. He is better at it than all of you - except Shayler and look at your message bearer! LOL, Nico is bad? At least he LOOKS the artist.
I would hope his example would encourage more than just whining idiots complaining about his message. Empty bits on the screen vs. real action. It is especially idiotic to see you all whining about the message at the same time as not getting your own ass out there. You are not worthy to judge because you have not done it. You are not even close.
I agree Nico is a manic poster and fairly outrageous. I cut off his video flows because of the porn (he calls transgression art). Still he does things and all I see are the vast pontifications of the likes of chekstupidity who seem to declare what everyone should do or think in a silly forum and that is a contribution when it is merely more dingle berries in the loo.
Carry your own message forward independently; no one is joining the groupthink because no group thinks the same.
Example 1
Nico.
Real person, exposed to press and the real world. Out more than once a day doing street actions to bring 911-truth awareness. Self proclaimed Waco. Loves porn, sex, and fun. Pushes NASA, Banking, and NWO conspiracy. Does not say he is Son of God!
Example 2
chek
Anonymous person who constantly posts in forums rules for those who go out in the street actions, casts dispersions and does not offer his real person for real actions. Never leaves home to do street actions. Takes no physical part or risk for his ideas. Self proclaimed saint and visionary of all that is 911truth (whatever it is at the moment). Dictator of style fashion and keeper of child pornography.
Example 3
Shayler
Real person, active, standing declaring leadership, taking everyone for the ride and then flaking out into some holier than the golden chalice life. Certainly driving for groupthink, group movement and let’s all do the same thing, get in my line.
I am afraid only Nico allows freedom and only Nico is an example that you can use. If any of you had a real idea and could get your idea in a mass medium, spread the way you wanted it to, you would get more kudos too.
Anyway your new marching orders are coming down and you have to kiss Fetzer's and Barrett's butsky again and Judy Wood gets a place. There are only the big three left outside the box. Get with your program! Can't tell whom your supposed to back without the program! I have out ranked (in the list) Nico in that big three evil so why listen at all? Just bits flying on the screen after all. Next thing you know old David Shayler will be back helping you along with his new found powers and you can follow some other leader. You love to follow the leader. Is that an English invention too? Always need a ruler, a king, a leader, a government, someone to tell you what to do and take your money to protect you from the bullies.
No one will stop Nico; the question is what stopped YOU?
Rick your saying as much about yourself and your needs here as anyone else
Quite interesting
Speaking personally, I could'nt give a damn about Nico Haupt though: the guy is simply a conspiracyville victim at best
He doesnt speak for me: neither do you Rick: neither does anyone else, no matter how much you fixate on them
I speak for me: its called Freedom
And youve still got a lot to learn
It is nice that you learned about freedom and my messages helps you bring it out. Now if you could relieve your myopia and ego problems you might actually open and learn something new.
An idiot that repeats what one says and tells them to learn it has a lot to learn about his infantile auto-responses. Freedom is vast and it is nice you can find it once in a while to talk about. Why not allow others some of it?
Speaking personally I think you are a pompous idiot and never used you for an example because you have done nothing. Sorry John, you just sit around and are actually an example of a pompous pontificator. Your accomplishments are 0. So, while neither Nico or you or anyone speaks for me (nice you can learn that and stand independent there) I have never even come close to asking anyone to take his beliefs. Your fixation on Nico and me is getting the worst side of you out and I like that John.
Let's see if I can get this through your thick bones? I really do try to help.
It is not for the ideas Nico spread but the fact that he gets out and activates on them that is commendable. My opinion; it is nice you are so enamored with me that you always find the need to disagree even if you are agreeing (like with this freedom bit)
Now, your limited capabilities hopefully can grasp the concept so you do not confuse that with your own limited interpretations of what I am saying and your problematic understandings. Maybe you can stick with what I am saying without changing it to your own limited response mechanisim?
So, if for instance, John White got on BBC to get an hour to talk about whatever the Hell John White was pointing about, you would accomplish the same commendable actions as I would see in Nico.
You are not under any obligation to do so, afterall it seems only my own opinion, but you will have to endure the labels others and I put on you as a do nothing pontificator that spouts bs rather than acts on his convictions. You will of course counter with some long list of accomplishments and actions? I doubt it but would love to be wrong. And of course, bottom line, it is me, my freedom here, and only my ideas. What does that have to do with the price of rice in China, your life, or who the prince is bumming today?
Nothing to do with subjugation and allows freedom John. Far be it from me to stop anyone from doing anything in the bounds of freedom. It is vast and only stops when some other being strikes yours physically, thereby restricting your freedom. Then we will have crossed over to a crime. We have not come to this point yet John.
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Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:52 pm Post subject:
911Eyewitness wrote:
Nahh, not for me. You make him that. Is he "a leader of your movement"? Not mine. You, you, you are assuming and pushing your expectations on Nico, he can only be who he is. If you have not figured it out then you are needed somewhere else.
The example does not have to be in the arts, his example is in his willingness to get his message out in every way he can. Disagreeing is a chump’s excuse to drink more beer watch the tele letting others do the dirty work.
His example does not mean you should go on Howard Stern, but you could get your ass on BBC. How? That is what the example is and where you can see if you can match Nico. He is better at it than all of you - except Shayler and look at your message bearer! LOL, Nico is bad? At least he LOOKS the artist.
Ho ho, ha ha, hee hee, lol etc. I already commented earlier in another thread about how Haupt's alleged 'art appeal' to suburban tosseurs would make a good freshman's psych profile project. Thanks for confirming that.
911Eyewitness wrote:
I would hope his example would encourage more than just whining idiots complaining about his message. Empty bits on the screen vs. real action. It is especially idiotic to see you all whining about the message at the same time as not getting your own ass out there. You are not worthy to judge because you have not done it. You are not even close.
I agree Nico is a manic poster and fairly outrageous. I cut off his video flows because of the porn (he calls transgression art). Still he does things and all I see are the vast pontifications of the likes of chekstupidity who seem to declare what everyone should do or think in a silly forum and that is a contribution when it is merely more dingle berries in the loo.
Your personally facilitated mate certainly does 'do things'. It's just that they're useless and damaging things. Btw moRonICK, did you suss out the difference between an upward motion and a force yet?
911Eyewitness wrote:
Carry your own message forward independently; no one is joining the groupthink because no group thinks the same.
Example 1
Nico.
Real person, exposed to press and the real world. Out more than once a day doing street actions to bring 911-truth awareness. Self proclaimed Waco. Loves porn, sex, and fun. Pushes NASA, Banking, and NWO conspiracy. Does not say he is Son of God!
And also does not achieve anything of positive gain but instead merely a passing technobabble clown show. Maybe that's why you feel such an affinity with him?
911Eyewitness wrote:
Example 2
chek
Anonymous person who constantly posts in forums rules for those who go out in the street actions, casts dispersions and does not offer his real person for real actions. Never leaves home to do street actions. Takes no physical part or risk for his ideas. Self proclaimed saint and visionary of all that is 911truth (whatever it is at the moment). Dictator of style fashion and keeper of child pornography.
Leaving aside that you just pulled those 'facts' out of your ample butt, I'll only comment that your re-use of a future conditional from an earlier post of mine provides a great example to illustrate what a derivative and loathsome rodent you are. One (but only one) of the reasons we know your pretensions to being an 'artiste' are as phoney as your committment to 911 truth.
911Eyewitness wrote:
Example 3
Shayler
Real person, active, standing declaring leadership, taking everyone for the ride and then flaking out into some holier than the golden chalice life. Certainly driving for groupthink, group movement and let’s all do the same thing, get in my line.
M'Ronick, this is just more spouting your butt-pickings and generalised ravings. If you must commit them to type, do it on your own forum.
I know nobody will see it, but believe me, that's a good thing.
911Eyewitness wrote:
I am afraid only Nico allows freedom and only Nico is an example that you can use. If any of you had a real idea and could get your idea in a mass medium, spread the way you wanted it to, you would get more kudos too.
Your naive belief in the mass media (Howard Stern, global? Not in this reality...) and its baffling powers of personal transcendency must be some peculiarly Amerikan Empire thing you'd have to explain.
911Eyewitness wrote:
Anyway your new marching orders are coming down and you have to kiss Fetzer's and Barrett's butsky again and Judy Wood gets a place. There are only the big three left outside the box. Get with your program! Can't tell whom your supposed to back without the program! I have out ranked (in the list) Nico in that big three evil so why listen at all? Just bits flying on the screen after all. Next thing you know old David Shayler will be back helping you along with his new found powers and you can follow some other leader. You love to follow the leader. Is that an English invention too? Always need a ruler, a king, a leader, a government, someone to tell you what to do and take your money to protect you from the bullies.
As usual, your analysis is as worthless as your opinions.
But I suppose you imagined that they'd be seen by more eyes here than back at 911 Tumbleweeds. As was once said, and so aptly befits you, better to stay silent and be thought a fool than make a post and remove all doubt. Enough said.
911Eyewitness wrote:
No one will stop Nico; the question is what stopped YOU?
A much more relevant question is: what stopped you?
911 truth misappropriated your 'work' was your last gasp on Fox, in your cluelessly bovine attempt to suck up to the mass media.
It was your 'artistic statement' which you were very satisfied with, I seem to recall. Maybe Quisling was an 'artiste' too?
I had an idea you can use, gratis.
Take your amateur cam down to a busy road intersection and maybe one day you'll get lucky and catch on film some other poor unfortunates losing their lives.
I understand there's a market for that kind of thing, and it might keep you afloat another month or two. _________________ Dissolution of the Global Corporations.
It's the only way.
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject:
911Eyewitness wrote:
Dallas wrote:
ian neal wrote:
Rick
I think we have all figured Nico is a 'freak artist', like whoa man that's weally wadical. He certainly isn't a civil engineer, a demolition engineer, an AV engineer or any other kind of scholar.
Where I agree with you is that Nico should be applauded in taking the initiative and just doing what he's doing as he sees fit and not waiting for anyone's permission. Everyone should be encouraged to speak their own truth and take the initiative.
Where I disagree with you is that what Nico is choosing to do is worth a * or that anyone beyond the cocooned world of 9/11 truth will have even noticed Nico's big media breakthrough this week, let alone be even vaguely impressed by it.
Also I fail to see that Nico is much of a role model when it comes to leaving cyberspace alone. If there is one person who personifies a forum/blogging obcessive, it is surely Nico. Name anyone who is more prolific?
At the end of the day, one person's 'freak artist' is another person's major league *
If Nico acted the way he does just for performance art, I'd probably be mildly amused. However, like I said - he is the 9-11 truth analogue of Stepin Fetchit... and when you have Stepin Fetchit trying to be taken seriously as a leader of your movement, you've got a big problem.
Nahh, not for me. You make him that. Is he "a leader of your movement"? Not mine. You, you, you are assuming and pushing your expectations on Nico, he can only be who he is. If you have not figured it out then you are needed somewhere else.
The example does not have to be in the arts, his example is in his willingness to get his message out in every way he can. Disagreeing is a chump’s excuse to drink more beer watch the tele letting others do the dirty work.
I agree. That's why I am out there at GZ every weekend and have seen Nico make an * of himself and *es of the rest of us by association several times, up close and personal.
If you want to split hairs, fine, you did call him an "example", not a "leader". I don't think he's much of eitherl. Stepin Fetchit clown antics aren't something to be emulated either IMHO.
Quote:
His example does not mean you should go on Howard Stern, but you could get your ass on BBC. How? That is what the example is and where you can see if you can match Nico. He is better at it than all of you - except Shayler and look at your message bearer! LOL, Nico is bad? At least he LOOKS the artist.
I would hope his example would encourage more than just whining idiots complaining about his message. Empty bits on the screen vs. real action. It is especially idiotic to see you all whining about the message at the same time as not getting your own ass out there. You are not worthy to judge because you have not done it. You are not even close.
I agree Nico is a manic poster and fairly outrageous. I cut off his video flows because of the porn (he calls transgression art). Still he does things and all I see are the vast pontifications of the likes of chekstupidity who seem to declare what everyone should do or think in a silly forum and that is a contribution when it is merely more dingle berries in the loo.
Carry your own message forward independently; no one is joining the groupthink because no group thinks the same.
Example 1
Nico.
Real person, exposed to press and the real world. Out more than once a day doing street actions to bring 911-truth awareness. Self proclaimed Waco. Loves porn, sex, and fun. Pushes NASA, Banking, and NWO conspiracy. Does not say he is Son of God!
Example 2
chek
Anonymous person who constantly posts in forums rules for those who go out in the street actions, casts dispersions and does not offer his real person for real actions. Never leaves home to do street actions. Takes no physical part or risk for his ideas. Self proclaimed saint and visionary of all that is 911truth (whatever it is at the moment). Dictator of style fashion and keeper of child pornography.
Example 3
Shayler
Real person, active, standing declaring leadership, taking everyone for the ride and then flaking out into some holier than the golden chalice life. Certainly driving for groupthink, group movement and let’s all do the same thing, get in my line.
I am afraid only Nico allows freedom and only Nico is an example that you can use. If any of you had a real idea and could get your idea in a mass medium, spread the way you wanted it to, you would get more kudos too.
Anyway your new marching orders are coming down and you have to kiss Fetzer's and Barrett's butsky again and Judy Wood gets a place. There are only the big three left outside the box. Get with your program! Can't tell whom your supposed to back without the program! I have out ranked (in the list) Nico in that big three evil so why listen at all? Just bits flying on the screen after all. Next thing you know old David Shayler will be back helping you along with his new found powers and you can follow some other leader. You love to follow the leader. Is that an English invention too? Always need a ruler, a king, a leader, a government, someone to tell you what to do and take your money to protect you from the bullies.
No one will stop Nico; the question is what stopped YOU?
You know, it looks like you have probably posted more (word for word) than anyone else in this thread, yet you go on about people wasting their time kvetching on the 'net. What gives? _________________ The answer to 1984 is 1776!
You know, it looks like you have probably posted more (word for word) than anyone else in this thread, yet you go on about people wasting their time kvetching on the 'net. What gives?
Oh? You are so observant I should give you an award! Posting the most in ones own thread and you noticed?
Now for that gold star pasted on your forehead, so the toilet monitor can see what a big boy you are; who would be the most prolific poster on a thread they start? Me thinks you grab the sour grape.
Really Dallas, it is easy to see how Nico can make an arse of you. You are first affected. Like a target for a rabid dog you are more a magnet for this by your own mental conditioning. Bred for the abuse so to speak.
There is one positive thing you can do though. Enjoy it. Nothing says you cannot enjoy it. Try and see if it works? Or not and have fun with your embarrassed arse. No matter what, at the end of the day you will return to your cube and pay your tribute to your government or go to jail and it matters not in Texas or London you will pay that tribute.
Can you share with us all a video that shows how Nico personally embarrassed you each weekend at Ground Zero? Explaining how this reflects embarrassment on you and who you might be embarrassed in front of in the first place? I did not realize how personally Nico affects you. Does he live with you or something? Do you introduce his act or something at GZ?
Do you feel anyone who speaks about events on September 11 with words outside your programming is embarrassing? Does everyone who speaks - speak for you, or are you one of those groupthink people who need a group to think and a leader to lead it?
COINTELPRO, an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program, was a series of overt operations conducted by the FBI starting in the mid 50’s and continuing until 1976 when it was exposed by the investigations The Church Committee. One of the primary methods of COINTELPRO consisted of forging pseudo-movement groups as a means of conducting Psychological Warfare operations to spread disinformation, disrupt, and divide existing movements. These ‘psy-ops’ tended to foment suspicions among the targeted movements and try to dissuade sympathies from people outside the targeted movement.
Today, COINTELPRO has reared its ugly head again, with infiltrations popping up everywhere from Anti-War activism groups to peaceful gun owners and militias. Provocations have become more and more conspicuous to the public as the Seattle World Trade Organization protests and Ontario Security and Prosperity Partnership protests successfully exposed provocateur operations. Of course, something as dangerous to the establishment *body politic* as 9/11 has not been without its alleged incidents of COINTELPRO action. Allegations of government disinformation have been swirling around certain figures in the movement, such as former Bush Administration official Morgan Reynolds, who has recently proposed that “no planes hit the World Trade Center”, has alleged “TV Fakery”, and submitted that the towers were brought down by “Directed Energy Weapons” a.k.a. “Laser Beams”.
While the government has spent innumerable resources trying to contradict eyewitness statements regarding reported explosions in the towers, Morgan Reynolds and his “mockingbirds” expect the 9/11 truth movement to put their energy into further contradicting even more numerous eyewitness statements. See a problem here?
Typical of the above outlined methods, “No Planers” have become a pseudo-movement, adding lunacy, deception, and division to the legitimate questions emanating from 9/11 families, first responders, government officials, intelligence experts, scientists, engineers, architects, academics, entertainment personalities, and so many others.
Perhaps the more visible purveyors of this pseudo-movement are supported by Paula Gloria’s “Concordia Foundation”. The “Concordia Foundation” claims 501 (c) 3, or “nonprofit” status. Recent investigations have uncovered that her “foundation” does not exist under that name. However, a “Concordia Eco Corporation” is filed with the IRS under a previously assumed address. One corporate filing database has listing the “Concordia Eco Corporation” as having total assets of $1.00 as of 2006. Funding of Paula Gloria’s “foundation” originates solely from an information technology firm, Bit By Bit Computer Consultants. “Donations” to the “Concordia Foundation” are actually billed directly to Bit By Bit. The operation functions under the guise of a nonprofit “foundation” with a private corporation providing the real funding as well as garnering cash from unsuspecting “donors”. The apparent fraud has appropriately prompted multiple complaints with the FTC and IRS.
Bit By Bit, and its subsidiary 3BDigital, admittedly list among their portfolio Bloomberg LLC, Chase Bank, The National Football League, Citigroup, and The National Security Council. 3BDigital boasts to have partnerships with Nokia, Cisco Systems, IBM, Compaq, Microsoft, and Level (3) Communications. A subsidiary of Level (3) Communications, a defense contractor doing business, primarily, with US and UK interests, is the developer of the WESCAM system said to be the delivery mechanism for the supposed “TV Fakery”. Of course this is nonsense, but it is fascinating that these harlequins would incorporate their partnerships into their own theories.
The “Concordia Foundation” numbers among its surrogates Nico Haupt, a man who exhibits *prima facie *schizophrenic behavior. Allegations of COINTELPRO surrounding Haupt have, in the past, seemed to be justified. WeAreChange recently had two unprovoked incidents with Haupt, where he assaulted the group’s members, only to be ignored by onlooking NYPD.
Haupt continuously spreads disinformation, even abject lies, surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. From calling legitimate 9/11 truthers “Plane Huggers”, to claiming “Alex Jones works for ABC” and is “covering up for the media”, Haupt’s tactics and behavior exhibit classic COINTELPRO methods. Haupt even advocates “waterboarding Plane Huggers”.
So a “foundation” operating under a fraud with intimate ties to international defense contractors, major Wall Street banks, prominent telecommunications firms, and The National Security council is a driving force behind the “No Plane” pseudo-movement?
The information promulgated by Paula Gloria, Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, and others is clearly suspect in light of these new revelations Whereas, before, all of the speculation regarding “No Plane” theories were simply diffused by logic and common sense, now we see that something much more sinister is at play. The divide and conquer tactics employed by these clowns has warranted past allegations of COINTELPRO. Today, the charade has been fully exposed: the pyschological warfare, the subliminals, the allegations of ‘cover-up’ within the movement, the show on the Howard Stern Channel.
Although these revelations should prompt further investigation, it certainly begs the question: does it get any more transparent?
COINTELPRO, an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program, was a series of overt operations conducted by the FBI starting in the mid 50’s and continuing until 1976 when it was exposed by the investigations The Church Committee. One of the primary methods of COINTELPRO consisted of forging pseudo-movement groups as a means of conducting Psychological Warfare operations to spread disinformation, disrupt, and divide existing movements. These ‘psy-ops’ tended to foment suspicions among the targeted movements and try to dissuade sympathies from people outside the targeted movement.
Today, COINTELPRO has reared its ugly head again, with infiltrations popping up everywhere from Anti-War activism groups to peaceful gun owners and militias. Provocations have become more and more conspicuous to the public as the Seattle World Trade Organization protests and Ontario Security and Prosperity Partnership protests successfully exposed provocateur operations. Of course, something as dangerous to the establishment *body politic* as 9/11 has not been without its alleged incidents of COINTELPRO action. Allegations of government disinformation have been swirling around certain figures in the movement, such as former Bush Administration official Morgan Reynolds, who has recently proposed that “no planes hit the World Trade Center”, has alleged “TV Fakery”, and submitted that the towers were brought down by “Directed Energy Weapons” a.k.a. “Laser Beams”.
While the government has spent innumerable resources trying to contradict eyewitness statements regarding reported explosions in the towers, Morgan Reynolds and his “mockingbirds” expect the 9/11 truth movement to put their energy into further contradicting even more numerous eyewitness statements. See a problem here?
Typical of the above outlined methods, “No Planers” have become a pseudo-movement, adding lunacy, deception, and division to the legitimate questions emanating from 9/11 families, first responders, government officials, intelligence experts, scientists, engineers, architects, academics, entertainment personalities, and so many others.
Perhaps the more visible purveyors of this pseudo-movement are supported by Paula Gloria’s “Concordia Foundation”. The “Concordia Foundation” claims 501 (c) 3, or “nonprofit” status. Recent investigations have uncovered that her “foundation” does not exist under that name. However, a “Concordia Eco Corporation” is filed with the IRS under a previously assumed address. One corporate filing database has listing the “Concordia Eco Corporation” as having total assets of $1.00 as of 2006. Funding of Paula Gloria’s “foundation” originates solely from an information technology firm, Bit By Bit Computer Consultants. “Donations” to the “Concordia Foundation” are actually billed directly to Bit By Bit. The operation functions under the guise of a nonprofit “foundation” with a private corporation providing the real funding as well as garnering cash from unsuspecting “donors”. The apparent fraud has appropriately prompted multiple complaints with the FTC and IRS.
Bit By Bit, and its subsidiary 3BDigital, admittedly list among their portfolio Bloomberg LLC, Chase Bank, The National Football League, Citigroup, and The National Security Council. 3BDigital boasts to have partnerships with Nokia, Cisco Systems, IBM, Compaq, Microsoft, and Level (3) Communications. A subsidiary of Level (3) Communications, a defense contractor doing business, primarily, with US and UK interests, is the developer of the WESCAM system said to be the delivery mechanism for the supposed “TV Fakery”. Of course this is nonsense, but it is fascinating that these harlequins would incorporate their partnerships into their own theories.
The “Concordia Foundation” numbers among its surrogates Nico Haupt, a man who exhibits *prima facie *schizophrenic behavior. Allegations of COINTELPRO surrounding Haupt have, in the past, seemed to be justified. WeAreChange recently had two unprovoked incidents with Haupt, where he assaulted the group’s members, only to be ignored by onlooking NYPD.
Haupt continuously spreads disinformation, even abject lies, surrounding the 9/11 truth movement. From calling legitimate 9/11 truthers “Plane Huggers”, to claiming “Alex Jones works for ABC” and is “covering up for the media”, Haupt’s tactics and behavior exhibit classic COINTELPRO methods. Haupt even advocates “waterboarding Plane Huggers”.
So a “foundation” operating under a fraud with intimate ties to international defense contractors, major Wall Street banks, prominent telecommunications firms, and The National Security council is a driving force behind the “No Plane” pseudo-movement?
The information promulgated by Paula Gloria, Nico Haupt, Morgan Reynolds, and others is clearly suspect in light of these new revelations Whereas, before, all of the speculation regarding “No Plane” theories were simply diffused by logic and common sense, now we see that something much more sinister is at play. The divide and conquer tactics employed by these clowns has warranted past allegations of COINTELPRO. Today, the charade has been fully exposed: the pyschological warfare, the subliminals, the allegations of ‘cover-up’ within the movement, the show on the Howard Stern Channel.
Although these revelations should prompt further investigation, it certainly begs the question: does it get any more transparent?
yes! it's all true!
and the cookie monster is CIA too!
well the scary thing is that if killtown told you that the cookie monster is CIA, you'd believe it. and if he made a youtube video which claimed that the cookie monster is CIA, you'd use it to start a new thread called "undebunkable evidence that the cookie monster is CIA"....
BTW - do you have anything meaningful to say in response to the article?
try again.... _________________ Nyetu pravdy v Isvyestyakh i nyetu isvyestyi v Pravde
NO PLANER COINTELPRO Operation Becoming Transparent
these revelations should prompt further investigation,
There is your truth. Those who wrote this wish to divert your attention to an investigation into Nico Haupt couture and a nit wit new ager.
Whoever wrote this is an idiot. He is not even with the "Investigate 911" crew, he is an "Investigate Nico HaUpt" crew. What an arse!
I can see it now, offical "Investigate Nico Hapt" tee's selling and you at the lead with the banners! Oh yeah, this is a real good effort. 911 truth uk ready to change their banners to "Investigate Nico Haupt". This is really a great effort in focus and moooovement? Are you ready to get a town hall meeting together for this focus group?
Where do you find these gits? Why do you post such tripe? Do you drink too much fluoride or something? Eat lead baby doll heads or something?
Do you know what a diversion is? Take the mirror and take a look.
well I must say that's a very hauptian response rick.
it makes me wonder who's nuttier - you or him.
keep dodging those flying pigs dude....
PS the article was from Wearechange Colorado - which is in that yanqui country you might have heard about. _________________ Nyetu pravdy v Isvyestyakh i nyetu isvyestyi v Pravde
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Nothing says you cannot enjoy it. 
Try and see if it works? Or not and have fun with your embarrassed arse. 
No matter what, at the end of the day you will return to your cube and pay your tribute to your government or go to jail and it matters not in Texas or London you will pay that tribute. 
Explaining how this reflects embarrassment on you and who you might be embarrassed in front of in the first place? 
Does everyone who speaks - speak for you, or are you one of those groupthink people who need a group to think and a leader to lead it? 