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hatsoff
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 Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: Sat23Aug - LIVERPOOL - Zero showing at Fact |
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http://www.fact.co.uk/whatson/detail/?infoID=8695338359947273763
showing at 3pm Saturday 23rd August.
Incidently, this date is also Slavery Remembrance Day.
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What was the result?
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Lee
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It was under half full.
Hatsoff took the local Stop the War Coalition chair in an attempt to enlighten him.
After watching all the evidence involved (apart from the bit he may have missed when he nodded off) he was still adamant that 'US government would not kill 3000 of their own citizens'... 
Apart from all those dying everyday in Iraq of course.
I could have mentioned Cheney's latest false flag plan involving building an Iranian ship which Sy Hersch broke a few weeks ago which would probably have involved the deaths of US troops.
The stw chair just kept trumpeting the virtues of left-gatekeeper Chumpsky. Who incidentally said himself that it wouldn't matter even if 9/11 was an inside job.
STW of course are not really interested in stopping the war. They are clearly a compromised group set up to appease activists and occasionally send them wandering around in circles with banners around London on jolly good days out.
If having the official story of 9/11 shredded infront of you for some two hours cant make you see the light then what will?
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Stephen
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| Quote: | | STW of course are not really interested in stopping the war. They are clearly a compromised group set up to appease activists and occasionally send them wandering around in circles with banners around London on jolly good days out. |
I agree, but I still go on these demo's because I can give out leaflets and dvds to wake the STW crowd up. 
And because i can just walk around a city centre with a big placard. |
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scubadiver
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| Stephen wrote: | | Quote: | | STW of course are not really interested in stopping the war. They are clearly a compromised group set up to appease activists and occasionally send them wandering around in circles with banners around London on jolly good days out. |
I agree, but I still go on these demo's because I can give out leaflets and dvds to wake the STW crowd up.
And because i can just walk around a city centre with a big placard. |
It is an excuse, I agree! 
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Stephen
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| Quote: | | STW of course are not really interested in stopping the war. They are clearly a compromised group set up to appease activists and occasionally send them wandering around in circles with banners around London on jolly good days out. |
But then the same could be said for the Truth Movement Of course your not really intrested in the Truth. You are clearly compromised group set up as cotrolled opposition and to appease you activists and occasinally you are given half truths by your spokes people. IE DRG S.Jones. + Placard waveing.
But all that said to be fair the likes of Loose change info Griffin books etc has done a good job in telling people 9/11 was an inside job. But now it's time to move on from half truths and dig depper. |
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Lee
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| Quote: | | But then the same could be said for the Truth Movement Of course your not really intrested in the Truth. |
Your critical thinking is acknowledged.
I share your opininion that many involved in "The Truth Movement" may not be interested in getting to actual truth but have ulterior motives.
Spreading divisive disinformation to either lead people away from strong evidence into dead-end conspiracy overload or simply to make a name for themselves.
Of course our opinions of who they are, are diametrically opposed.
| Quote: | | You are clearly compromised group set up as cotrolled opposition and to appease you activists and occasinally you are given half truths by your spokes people. IE DRG S.Jones. + Placard waveing. |
At this point I have to say that my quote, which the above quote is mimicking, is merely my opinion. I have no real evidence for it.
It just appears that way to me. Why? At no point that I'm aware of have STW acknowledged publically at any point the evidence against the 9/11 OCT. Even from actual victim's family members.
Your quote, however logical it may appear, misses the point that "The Truth Movement" is accessible by anyone from any point. It's just an idea. It's a movement of the spirit and intellect with no actual Chairpersons or official Spokespersons.
This website, is just linked to that idea. It isn't the movement itself. DRG, Prof Jones and Alex Jones etc aren't actual Spokespersons either. They are just people who question the official story.
Many people have been turned on to 'the truth' by or through those people. But unlike STW they don't have to sign-up or attend actual DRG led 'Truth Meetings' for example. They can act on their own in its name by making their own films or by holding their own events in the name of seeking 'the truth'.
What are the 'half truths' that you speak of by the way? Show me evidence to back up your claims.
| Quote: | | But now it's time to move on from half truths and dig depper. |
First of all, clarify your 'half-truths' with good evidence.
Some areas in which you've been digging deeper I greatly suspect myself of being untruths.
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Stephen
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| Quote: | | Some areas in which you've been digging deeper I greatly suspect myself of being untruths. |
I'm thinking that there's no piont to this because we will end up going round in circles. But I'll have a go now that you have asked.
For instants the main one for me is molten metal.
How could there be molten metal at ground zero? Those hot spots were from Nasa, and i dont trust Nasa. the pictures could be faked. Plus within a week after the attacks those hotspots were nearly all gone. yet were told that there was molet metal in/at ground zero in October!
Plus if there was heat and steam from the moten pools then why were the firemen standing in the middle of the of ground zero erea without being burnt? Answer= Because it wasnt hot and there wasnt any steam it was something different all together going on. But were ment to think it was steam from the heat, but there wasnt any steam explosions when they were watering down the site.
I'm unable to give any pictures at the mo because I'm having problems getting into Judy's site. |
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Stephen
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| And what about all that soil and landfill that was brought in from day one to bulk up the small amout of rubble instead of taking away the liitle or none exsiting steel remans in trucks they instead trucked in landfill and to soak up the chemical or what ever was used to soften the steel and turn it to dust. Remember they were strubing the streets clean(to hide the evidence) strait after when they should of been looking for survivors. |
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| Lee wrote: | It was under half full.
Hatsoff took the local Stop the War Coalition chair in an attempt to enlighten him.
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How many turned up for the showing? What was the audience's reaction to the film and to the local Stop the War Coalition chair?
We expect this sort of thing to happen. I was surprised things went so smoothly in Newbury. We just need to document it when it happens. |
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Lee
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| Quote: | How many turned up for the showing? What was the audience's reaction to the film and to the local Stop the War Coalition chair?
We expect this sort of thing to happen. I was surprised things went so smoothly in Newbury. |
I'd say about 50. Tops. I didn't speak to anyone else about the film so I dont know who thought what but it's difficult to know just how many were 'new' to the evidence and how many went to see 'another' 9/11 film.
I doubt if anyone even knew that the stw bod was there to be honest. He didn't announce himself and would only really be known to those who are members of the coalition.
I didn't even know he was there until I saw him sit with the hatsoff dudes that I know quite well.
All I will say is that hatsoff have tried relentlessly to get these people to engage with 9/11 issues (they're active members of the coalition) but to no avail.
I've spoken to two key members myself now and just received the standard denial.
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hatsoff
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| Quote: | | All I will say is that hatsoff have tried relentlessly to get these people to engage with 9/11 issues (they're active members of the coalition) but to no avail. |
go easy there mate!  we're not members of stw! wouldn't want to be associated with gatekeepers of the left! however we obviously support any demands by any one to stop the illegal wars which our leaders keep embroiling us in.
And yes we have tried relentlessly! And now quite honestly, I am tired of talking to the man. He just won't have it and prefers to trust Mr Monbiot's view - "all gibbering idiots"
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truthseeker john
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| Lee wrote: | | If having the official story of 9/11 shredded in front of [them] for some two hours cant make [them] see the light then what will? |
Well said, Lee! Even so, they are individuals so we must at least try.
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