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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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God's Laws are also The Laws of TRUE justice, not man's distorted opinions of what is justice to them. ..


Sounds good.

What are God's laws exactly?


Bump for anybody who can tell us what God's laws are.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Jomper

If you want to learn about in-tuition this is where to start and I hope you do but it is your choice to do or not, I hope that you do.

http://jahtruth.net/wayintro.htm


http://jahtruth.net/flute.htm
“The True Teachings of Buddha are in perfect harmony with those contained in "The Silent Flute" and in The Holy Scriptures. An extract from the end of the movie "The Little Buddha" briefly describes these teachings and an explanation of that extract follows.”
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew, I don't want you to think I did you the disservice of not looking at that page.

I did.

There's no mention of "intuition" on it.

However there are things like this:

"George Lucas quite naturally believes that he wrote "Starwars", when, in reality, he was told telepathically what to write in the original first three Episodes (4-6), by the very "Force" to which the films refer, and was "forced" to make only episodes 4-6, first, as a very important step in the preparation of mankind for the long-awaited TRUTH."

I'm afraid this has led me to the conclusion that you are, frankly, bananas. That's the most respectful way I can say it.

Thank-you for your responses to my posts on this thread. I won't be contributing to it further.

Good luck with everything and take care.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew. wrote:
sam wrote:
sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:

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God's Laws are also The Laws of TRUE justice, not man's distorted opinions of what is justice to them. ..


Sounds good.

What are God's laws exactly?


Bump for anybody who can tell us what God's laws are.


Dear Sam

If you want to learn study read and digest which is your choice to do and I hope you do this is where to start
http://jahtruth.net/


I had a look at that website and happened to notice this, on how to survive Armageddon :

Unique & Authoritative Information Library and Straight-forward
Daily-Tuition comes complete on ONE convenient CD.

Send US $50 (outside of Europe) for your personal
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(inside Europe €50 [Euros]).

Please specify whether for PC, or Mac.

This is a one-time payment with no hidden extras.

Due to having to avoid the "Mark of the Beast" we now
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Please send cash payment to:-

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Is this your website and your advertising?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:
sam wrote:
sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:

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God's Laws are also The Laws of TRUE justice, not man's distorted opinions of what is justice to them. ..


Sounds good.

What are God's laws exactly?


Bump for anybody who can tell us what God's laws are.


Dear Sam

If you want to learn study read and digest which is your choice to do and I hope you do this is where to start
http://jahtruth.net/


I had a look at that website and happened to notice this, on how to survive Armageddon :

Unique & Authoritative Information Library and Straight-forward
Daily-Tuition comes complete on ONE convenient CD.

Send US $50 (outside of Europe) for your personal
pocket-sized Survival-Plan on CD
(inside Europe €50 [Euros]).

Please specify whether for PC, or Mac.

This is a one-time payment with no hidden extras.

Due to having to avoid the "Mark of the Beast" we now
only accept cash.

Please send cash payment to:-

JAH, JAH Publications, P. O. Box 2129, Canvey Island,
SS8 9UF, England, U.K.


Is this your website and your advertising?



No it is not my website Sam.

The web site is Free to browse,
books CD's and postage cost money and you can't expect a postage or a publishing company ect to do it for free. The money charged for this does not even break even in terms of making a monetary profit.
Some people like a hard copy to read,other people do not have a computer or access to the internet.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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“Andrew, I don't want you to think I did you the disservice of not looking at that page.
I did. There's no mention of "intuition" on it.”

It is mentioned on page 15 jomper.
It also explains that the Holy-Spirit (Comforter) is In-tuition and is mentioned many times.


Jomper wrote:
However there are things like this
"George Lucas quite naturally believes that he wrote "Starwars", when, in reality, he was told telepathically what to write in the original first three Episodes (4-6), by the very "Force" to which the films refer, and was "forced" to make only episodes 4-6, first, as a very important step in the preparation of mankind for the long-awaited TRUTH."

Jomper wrote:
“I'm afraid this has led me to the conclusion that you are, frankly, bananas. That's the most respectful way I can say it.”

That is just one example and there are countless other works and examples. In the 3 movies you mentioned there must be thousands of words and (scenes used symbolically) when understood the transcript is all in order. In-tuition tells me that it is not coincidence.

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“Good luck with everything and take care.”

Thank-you Jomper, take care also.

I can’t say Good luck as I don’t believe in coincidence.

TWHOFTF
13:58 Then, your whole life will make sense to you, and you will see, that EVERYTHING in life is for a reason, and that there is no such thing as coincidence, or luck.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew. wrote:
sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:
sam wrote:
sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:

...
God's Laws are also The Laws of TRUE justice, not man's distorted opinions of what is justice to them. ..


Sounds good.

What are God's laws exactly?


Bump for anybody who can tell us what God's laws are.


Dear Sam

If you want to learn study read and digest which is your choice to do and I hope you do this is where to start
http://jahtruth.net/


I had a look at that website and happened to notice this, on how to survive Armageddon :


...
Send US $50 (outside of Europe) for your personal
pocket-sized Survival-Plan on CD
(inside Europe €50 [Euros]).

Please specify whether for PC, or Mac.
This is a one-time payment with no hidden extras.
Due to having to avoid the "Mark of the Beast" we now
only accept cash.
Please send cash payment to:-


Is this your website and your advertising?


No it is not my website Sam.

The web site is Free to browse,
books CD's and postage cost money and you can't expect a postage or a publishing company ect to do it for free. The money charged for this does not even break even in terms of making a monetary profit.
Some people like a hard copy to read,other people do not have a computer or access to the internet.


Ooh, I reckon I could burn and post a CD of "how to survive the coming Armaggedon" for about £2.

What's more, if I truly believed the guff on my CD, I would provide it at cost in order to save as many souls as possible. Blimey, in fact I'd provide it free as far as humanly possible and just ask people to copy+redistribute. Or slap the text on a website and have people print it out ad lib.

How could any virtuous person not take this approach?

Nah. The site you're talking about is a ripoff aiming to profit from the weak and vulnerable. Shame on you for promoting it.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:
sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:
sam wrote:
sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:

...
God's Laws are also The Laws of TRUE justice, not man's distorted opinions of what is justice to them. ..


Sounds good.

What are God's laws exactly?


Bump for anybody who can tell us what God's laws are.


Dear Sam

If you want to learn study read and digest which is your choice to do and I hope you do this is where to start
http://jahtruth.net/


I had a look at that website and happened to notice this, on how to survive Armageddon :


...
Send US $50 (outside of Europe) for your personal
pocket-sized Survival-Plan on CD
(inside Europe €50 [Euros]).

Please specify whether for PC, or Mac.
This is a one-time payment with no hidden extras.
Due to having to avoid the "Mark of the Beast" we now
only accept cash.
Please send cash payment to:-


Is this your website and your advertising?


No it is not my website Sam.

The web site is Free to browse,
books CD's and postage cost money and you can't expect a postage or a publishing company ect to do it for free. The money charged for this does not even break even in terms of making a monetary profit.
Some people like a hard copy to read,other people do not have a computer or access to the internet.


Ooh, I reckon I could burn and post a CD of "how to survive the coming Armaggedon" for about £2.

What's more, if I truly believed the guff on my CD, I would provide it at cost in order to save as many souls as possible. Blimey, in fact I'd provide it free as far as humanly possible and just ask people to copy+redistribute. Or slap the text on a website and have people print it out ad lib.

How could any virtuous person not take this approach?

Nah. The site you're talking about is a ripoff aiming to profit from the weak and vulnerable. Shame on you for promoting it.


It is free to copy and distribute Sam and Jomper.

Quotes from the website

"Important:
Please down-load this document immediately
and distribute it to as many people as possible."

"Print this page"

"Click on all the FREE web page links in this e-booklet, and carefully study those web pages.
Thank you very much for studying this booklet. In this e-booklet, there are links to over 100 related FREE web pages, to give you a comprehensive, further background on The Mission. You should click on them all, and download them to your computer so you can read and study them offline. I'm sure you will find them very informative. Some pages are very short, and others are quite lengthy. You should give higher priority to some of the lengthier ones that are actually FREE e-booklets and those titles and links are repeated as follows ......:"

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"The government is continually and illegally passing new legislation, to restrict your freedom and obtain more and more information about you, to control you, and yet, they themselves are becoming more and more secretive, and out of control. They have turned the relationship between the people and government, into the opposite of what it should be. It should be, public servants serving the people, not the people serving public government masters, or, more accurately, dictators.
Arrow Please, for your own sakes, make copies of this film for everyone you know, and for the media outlets in your area, to wake them up and let everyone know the truth, so that the public will give the decent, honest people in the security-services their support, and encouragement, to tell the truth, and arrest their evil colleagues. Exclamation
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It is free to copy and distribute Sam and Jomper.

Quotes from the website

"Important:
Please down-load this document immediately
and distribute it to as many people as possible."

"Print this page"

"Click on all the FREE web page links in this e-booklet, and carefully study those web pages. "


The Armageddon "free download" is a demo / preview.

When (if) you finally manage to extract it, the resulting Word document is nothing but a bunch of non-functional links.
Including (oopsie) "Yoda - Jeddi Master"

Andrew - either you have been duped, or you are attempting to dupe. You cannot possibly believe your most recent response here.

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If by your own free will you want to learn more and are serious and determined you can go further which you will need for correction. The choice as it has always been is yours to help yourself and others or not. The YODA books can be purchased elsewhere as explained on the website. The King of Kings Bible including the Koran is to be respected as over thousands of years it has been interfered with, this is all explained on the website/Scripture.You can purchase similar books elsewhere also, but it wouldn't be very wise.
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If by your own free will you want to learn more and are serious and determined you can go further which you will need for correction. The choice as it has always been is yours to help yourself and others or not. The YODA books can be purchased elsewhere as explained on the website. The King of Kings Bible including the Koran is to be respected as over thousands of years it has been interfered with, this is all explained on the website/Scripture.You can purchase similar books elsewhere also, but it wouldn't be very wise.


I'm asking you to explain the morality of charging 50 Euros for soul-saving Armageddon (etc) advice when it could easily be offered virtually free of cost to the "publisher". And you're failing at this simple task.

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If by your own free will you want to learn more and are serious and determined you can go further which you will need for correction. The choice as it has always been is yours to help yourself and others or not. The YODA books can be purchased elsewhere as explained on the website. The King of Kings Bible including the Koran is to be respected as over thousands of years it has been interfered with, this is all explained on the website/Scripture.You can purchase similar books elsewhere also, but it wouldn't be very wise.


I'm asking you to explain the morality of charging 50 Euros for soul-saving Armageddon (etc) advice when it could easily be offered virtually free of cost to the "publisher". And you're failing at this simple task.


Morally you don't even own yourself so how can you "own" anything. You have to help yourself, you could/should sell everything you think you own and use that for the cause mission as the disciples did and help other people.

http://jahtruth.net/darth.htm

http://jahtruth.net/greeneco.htm

If you want to help you could at least DO this

Quotes from the website

"Important:
Please down-load this document immediately
and distribute it to as many people as possible."

"Print this page"

"Click on all the FREE web page links in this e-booklet, and carefully study those web pages.
Thank you very much for studying this booklet. In this e-booklet, there are links to over 100 related FREE web pages, to give you a comprehensive, further background on The Mission. You should click on them all, and download them to your computer so you can read and study them offline. I'm sure you will find them very informative. Some pages are very short, and others are quite lengthy. You should give higher priority to some of the lengthier ones that are actually FREE e-booklets and those titles and links are repeated as follows ......:"
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sam wrote:

I'm asking you to explain the morality of charging 50 Euros for soul-saving Armageddon (etc) advice when it could easily be offered virtually free of cost to the "publisher". And you're failing at this simple task.


Morally you don't even own yourself so how can you "own" anything. You have to help yourself, you could/should sell everything you think you own and use that for the cause mission as the disciples did and help other people.

http://jahtruth.net/darth.htm

http://jahtruth.net/greeneco.htm

If you want to help you could at least DO this

Quotes from the website

"Important:
Please down-load this document immediately
and distribute it to as many people as possible."

"Print this page"

"Click on all the FREE web page links in this e-booklet, and carefully study those web pages. "


Yeah, but the e-booklet about saving yourself from The Armageddon costs 50 Euros. You won't get working links until you have paid for the real thing. The demo doesn't work. You have carefully evaded answering this simple point. Why?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:
sam wrote:

I'm asking you to explain the morality of charging 50 Euros for soul-saving Armageddon (etc) advice when it could easily be offered virtually free of cost to the "publisher". And you're failing at this simple task.


Morally you don't even own yourself so how can you "own" anything. You have to help yourself, you could/should sell everything you think you own and use that for the cause mission as the disciples did and help other people.

http://jahtruth.net/darth.htm

http://jahtruth.net/greeneco.htm

If you want to help you could at least DO this

Quotes from the website

"Important:
Please down-load this document immediately
and distribute it to as many people as possible."

"Print this page"

"Click on all the FREE web page links in this e-booklet, and carefully study those web pages. "


Yeah, but the e-booklet about saving yourself from The Armageddon costs 50 Euros. You won't get working links until you have paid for the real thing. The demo doesn't work. You have carefully evaded answering this simple point. Why?


Quote from the website
“Join:-
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Email Group. Strait_Truth - The training list for the 144K. Spiritually oriented and centered on the Father.
This email list is open only to "life and death" serious people who have already obtained and are studying the Survival Plan (The Way home or face The Fire), and are using the information in it, keenly striving to train to become a JEDI and to survive The Reaping. It is not for people with casual curiosity and/or seeking entertainment, or arguments.”

Sam I think my life your life and everyone’s life is worth more than 50 £ $. God and Christ are not going to do it all for you regardless of what priests ect say.
We are all responsible for our thoughts! Words! and DEEDS.
If you are “Life and death serious” and doing the above and learning the FREE e-booklets the FREE TWHOFTF the FREE Song of Moses and the New Song which are in perfect harmony and thus then receiving God and Christ’s help if you follow it faithfully, without deviating, I’ll pay for you.
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Anyone who charges for pastoral care is a charlatan & dodgy.
Otherwise it's a regressive tax.
The more you need it the more you pay.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew. wrote:
sam wrote:
Andrew. wrote:
sam wrote:

I'm asking you to explain the morality of charging 50 Euros for soul-saving Armageddon (etc) advice when it could easily be offered virtually free of cost to the "publisher". And you're failing at this simple task.


Morally you don't even own yourself so how can you "own" anything. You have to help yourself, you could/should sell everything you think you own and use that for the cause mission as the disciples did and help other people.

http://jahtruth.net/darth.htm

http://jahtruth.net/greeneco.htm

If you want to help you could at least DO this

Quotes from the website

"Important:
Please down-load this document immediately
and distribute it to as many people as possible."

"Print this page"

"Click on all the FREE web page links in this e-booklet, and carefully study those web pages. "


Yeah, but the e-booklet about saving yourself from The Armageddon costs 50 Euros. You won't get working links until you have paid for the real thing. The demo doesn't work. You have carefully evaded answering this simple point. Why?


Quote from the website
“Join:-
Strait_Truth
Email Group. Strait_Truth - The training list for the 144K. Spiritually oriented and centered on the Father.
This email list is open only to "life and death" serious people who have already obtained and are studying the Survival Plan (The Way home or face The Fire), and are using the information in it, keenly striving to train to become a JEDI and to survive The Reaping. It is not for people with casual curiosity and/or seeking entertainment, or arguments.”

Sam I think my life your life and everyone’s life is worth more than 50 £ $. God and Christ are not going to do it all for you regardless of what priests ect say.
We are all responsible for our thoughts! Words! and DEEDS.
If you are “Life and death serious” and doing the above and learning the FREE e-booklets the FREE TWHOFTF the FREE Song of Moses and the New Song which are in perfect harmony and thus then receiving God and Christ’s help if you follow it faithfully, without deviating, I’ll pay for you.


You are sounding increasingly like these guys.

http://www.subgenius.com/pams/pam2p1.html

They did it first, too. And didn't pretend to be serious.

Yours is a poor imitation.
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Anyone who charges for pastoral care is a charlatan & dodgy.
Otherwise it's a regressive tax.
The more you need it the more you pay.


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TWHOFTF: FREE download
13:22 Become one of my gentle, but DETERMINED, soldiers (Jedi Knights); learn The Ways of the "Force", and help me to put the world right. 13:23 Arrow I also guarantee Exclamation Arrow for you, that all of the "children of God", of ALL nations, who are REAL and PRACTISING believers, DOING God's Will, and thereby wearing OUR mark, will survive, and no favouritism will be shown to any nation, just as I said 2000 years ago, (Luke 13:29 & Rev. 5:9) and as Mohammed repeated 1400 years ago (Sura 2:62 & 5:69). Exclamation 13:24 Every single, individual soul will be judged, individually, on its own merits (Sura 6:164).


God guaranteed in the Koran (Sura 32:23), that the True Bible would reach you, and He commanded the reader, NOT to be in doubt about it. The New Covenant is known as the "New Song", and is the "Song of Moses" (Deut. 31:19-30), harmonized with the "Song of the Lamb" (Rev. 15:3), and Christ says that there are very few that can learn to sing it - keep it (Rev. 14:3)(Isaiah 42:10 & Ps. 98:1), and only those who do, will survive (Rev. 14:3)(Sura 6:152-157 & 33:23).
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Sam I think my life your life and everyone’s life is worth more than 50 £ $. God and Christ are not going to do it all for you regardless of what priests ect say.


And yet these Armageddon saviour types have put a price of 50 Euros on my mortal soul ?!

Nobody's life has any kind of actual price. Zero or invaluable are the only options. Pitching a merchandising price on it shows you up for the charlatan or sick individual that you most certainly are.

And please stop quoting pig-scripture at people. It's likely to make them vomit, and we don't want that all over the keyboard.

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Sam I think my life your life and everyone’s life is worth more than 50 £ $. God and Christ are not going to do it all for you regardless of what priests ect say.


And yet these Armageddon saviour types have put a price of 50 Euros on my mortal soul ?!

Nobody's life has any kind of actual price. Zero or invaluable are the only options. Pitching a merchandising price on it shows you up for the charlatan or sick individual that you most certainly are.

And please stop quoting pig-scripture at people. It's likely to make them vomit, and we don't want that all over the keyboard.



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