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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:25 am    Post subject: Time Travel + and - ? Reply with quote

Time Travel: Einstein's big idea (Theory of Relativity)

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Discovery - First Time Machine

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First Time Machine - Time Paradox 1/2

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First Time Machine - Time Paradox 2/2

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting, but the mechanisms described would not be "time travel" at all. They'd be "parallel universe travel".

And still - the parallel universe would necessarily not contain a you, otherwise you could meet yourself, which would be paradoxical.

Also - the parallel universe would have to deny the possibility of travelling back to your original universe in order to execute various impossible paradoxes.

And what's more - when this "material" (you) from another universe suddenly appears, what happens? What if "you" materialise half-way inside a wall, or another person. Even if in the open air and upon solid ground you would have a large amount of atmosphere inside your body. You would die instantly. Or would it explode, out of the way? If so, why? Would a person in your materialisation vicinty be killed, or would both of you?

Bottom line - it's all a load of bull.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evidence for impossibility of time travel? No "time travellers". Sorry Dr Who fans.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What Simon Wells says about the assumption that it must be impossible to go back in time and kill his grandfather because we all know it didn't happen, is ridiculous.

In order for him to be correct he would first actually have to want to kill his grandfather. That's integral to the hypothesis. Even if he had a time-machine knocking about in the back-yard he would still actually have to have the intent to actually kill his grandfather.

Is the real reason that it didn't happen just simply because he really doesn't actually want to?

If time-travel is possible, then surely time-travellers are already here.

UFO's?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this simply to show that some scientists are saying that some sort of time travel is possible.

I have my own theories, that just as space is multi-directional so is time. Space is closely related to, or is even another form of time. Like space, time stretches out in all directions but our minds normally perceive going in one direction. Space and time are expanding outwards and we go through time in one direction but that doesn't mean that travelling through time in other directions is impossible.

If we travel back in time and meet up with a paradox, it doesn't mean that time travel in any direction is impossible. Such paradoxes would only be showing the result, not the inability of travelling through time. This seems to be a common mistake people make when thinking about time travel. Then there likely wouldn't be a paradox, if our destination isn't to a location on this earth.

In regard to UFOs, these have been seen for many thousands of years and if we accept anything about history, we should be accepting that UFOs do exist. If we discount all the sightings of UFOs that go way back into history, we would be being very selective and frankly, arrogant - or at least not thinking for ourselves. I believe that UFOs and their occupants do exist but how did they get here? Apparently, they got here by time travel.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam wrote:
What if "you" materialise half-way inside a wall, or another person.

Then you would have got the coordinates wrong. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sam wrote:
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And what's more - when this "material" (you) from another universe suddenly appears, what happens? What if "you" materialise half-way inside a wall, or another person.


consider this.

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In regard to UFOs, these have been seen for many thousands of years and if we accept anything about history, we should be accepting that UFOs do exist. If we discount all the sightings of UFOs that go way back into history, we would be being very selective and frankly, arrogant - or at least not thinking for ourselves. I believe that UFOs and their occupants do exist but how did they get here? Apparently, they got here by time travel.


if UFOs do have anthying to do with time travel, then it would explain a lot of instances where people have seen them appear from nowhere and vanish into thin air. your point about ending up in a place where something already exsists in that space is a good one and a valid one.
however if this is done in space the risks would be reduced where large objects are concerned.

the one thing that puzzles me if it were possible, is the particles that are everywhere, no matter where you time travelled to, there would be particles of some sort, would these end up in the body to? would it be lethal?
im not sure.

but the scenerio truthseeker john has given is far more likely than aliens.
the UFOs are there, many millions witness them. and through out history.

cern starting up may of increased the chances, however we are unaware of the results, but its worth keeping tabs on it, to see what they are saying about the universe once they have the results.
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