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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:38 am    Post subject: 'No such organisation as Al Qaeda' - Daily Mail Reply with quote

Here we have a strange case of a right wing tabloid pouring scorn on the War on Terror and all the hype surrounding Al Qaeda.

The commentator is Peter Hitchens, whose views on most issues are far removed from those of the average 911 truther.

However, as a declared cynic of the both UK parties, he has reached common ground in today's Mail on Sunday.

The headline actually reads: "

"It's the creepy plotters who rule us we should really be scared of"

and goes on to describe how

"the State ... need to pretend that the terrorists are a tightly organised and terrifying threat ....to help them get hold of new powers to snoop on us and push us around.

and on the subject of the liquid bombs on planes threat:

"What was wanted was a nice big propaganda success, after which we would face another call for detention without trial, compulsory identity cards, and all the rest of the 1984 rubbish this Government wishes to impose on us."

I don't know about you, but what surprised me about Hitchen's commentary is its chapter and verse summary of the global "truth campaign" - in the Daily Mail of all places.

This is the most pro-truth rant that I've ever seen in a UK newspaper of any description.

Daily Mail meets Alex Jones ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1055560/Its-creepy-p lotters-rule-really-scared-of.html
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's the creepy plotters who rule us we should really be scared of

Last updated at 1:28 AM on 14th September 2008

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There is no such organisation as ‘Al Qaeda’. The spooks know this, Cabinet Ministers know this and so do the ‘security correspondents’ who so readily trot out the spooks’ point of view on our broadcasting networks.

Of course, there are terrorists, and there are also fantasists, fanatics, low-lifes and camp followers who plot and attempt horrible things. Some of them even call themselves ‘Al Qaeda’ these days because they have learned that this is a good way to scare us.


The above points are illuminating. Millions read the Daily Mail. How did these lines appear and why now?

Creating the ideological climate for ...climate change?
Or is Bush soon to pull the rabbit out of his hat and bring a ...Bin Laden from the cave?

Something is up, what exactly soon we will know...
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the full article.

Peter Hitchens in the Mail on Sunday wrote:
It's the creepy plotters who rule us we should really be scared of
Last updated at 1:28 AM on Sunday 14th September 2008

There is no such organisation as ‘Al Qaeda’. The spooks know this, Cabinet Ministers know this and so do the ‘security correspondents’ who so readily trot out the spooks’ point of view on our broadcasting networks.

Of course, there are terrorists, and there are also fantasists, fanatics, low-lifes and camp followers who plot and attempt horrible things. Some of them even call themselves ‘Al Qaeda’ these days because they have learned that this is a good way to scare us.

But, while they are a menace, they are not as big or as organised a menace as the Government likes to make out.

Former Home Secretary John Reid reeled out a boastful, alarmist statement about some arrests of alleged terrorists

The State and the vainglorious bureaucrats of the ‘security’ services need to pretend that the terrorists are a tightly organised and terrifying threat, to make themselves look big as well – and to help them get hold of new powers to snoop on us and push us around.

Some of you may remember the rather squalid behaviour, back in the summer of 2006, by the then Home Secretary, the unrepentant ex-communist brute John Reid.

Lightly tossing aside the wise tradition that in free countries Ministers stay out of criminal justice matters, he reeled out a boastful, alarmist statement about some arrests of alleged terrorists, using words so preju-dicial that I will not reproduce them here.

When, two years later, a jury was unconvinced by many of the claims made by the authorities in this case, the same nastiness re-emerged in a different way.

Tame commentators were briefed to hint – baselessly – that the jury were stupid, inattentive or lazy, or even to blame the Americans for forcing our police to act before they were ready.

What is all this about? Remember, the authorities were tailing the alleged plotters from April to August. They had filmed them, recorded their conversations, searched their homes. If a real attempt had been made by the alleged plotters to blow up any planes, the police would have been able to prevent it.

But I suspect that someone, somewhere, wasn’t happy with that. What was wanted was not just the prevention of a potential outrage through diligent surveillance.

What was wanted was a nice big propaganda success, after which we would face another call for detention without trial, compulsory identity cards, and all the rest of the 1984 rubbish this Government wishes to impose on us.

Ill Kim needs a way in from the cold war

Can it be a year since I was in North Korea, shamefully laying flowers at the feet of a giant image of the dead Great Leader, Kim Il Sung? Yes, it can.

I thought then, and I think now, that this bankrupt and hopeless country hasn’t got much longer to run.

The problem was and is that the Dear Leader, Kim Jong Il, hasn’t got anybody to surrender to. The South Koreans don’t want to pay for rebuilding the North, which would wipe out their economy.

George W. Bush, always scanning the horizon for someone to be afraid of, needs to pretend that North Korea is a terrible threat to the USA.

And Kim fears that if he just steps down, and admits that the weird godless religion of Kim-worship is a lie, he will probably be torn to pieces by the disillusioned, half-starved mob.

Is he dead? How would anybody know? In any case, being dead is not necessarily a disadvantage in North Korean politics. His father is dead, and is still the official ruler of the nation. Is he ill? I expect so.

He has not treated his body as a temple, and North Korean elite medicine (how can I put this?) relies rather too heavily on feeding the sick person the private parts of dogs.

I am more worried about how the North Koreans are. We, and especially the US, really should make it easier for them to rejoin the world.

It is cruel and pointless to continue the pretence that they are a menace to anyone but themselves.

When a child’s thoughts are a State secret

A contributor to my blog reports as follows:
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‘We found out last night from my nine-year-old daughter that in her nice new Year 5 class they will have an “emotional diary” in which they can write anything they want about their thoughts/feelings/problems etc.


And they have been told quite clearly that their parents will never be able to look in this “diary”.’

This makes my skin crawl. The theft of children from their parents by the State is now far advanced. Is your nine-year-old keeping a secret diary that you aren’t allowed to see?

True confessions of the Tatler Tory airheads

In normal times, the pictures of simpering airheaded Young Tories in Tatler, posing as if the world belongs to them by right, would have sunk the Conservatives for ever.

But these are not normal times and the boring hate cult directed against Gordon Brown (how many times can you kill a corpse?) has ended any rational political discussion.

Even so, I feel the need to record one or two things about David Cameron which emerge from the book written about him by the fashionable Dylan Jones.

One, Mr Cameron very nearly admits that he has been making political capital out of the sad disability of his son, Ivan. He repeatedly says that it is a ‘difficult balance’.

And he also says three times that he doesn’t mind if people criticise him for this, ending: ‘It’s a weird thing to say but I don’t mind if people attack me for it.’ So he won’t mind if I attack him for it, will he? It’s wrong.

Two, he describes himself as ‘the sort of person who’s quite open’, but alas
this openness still doesn’t extend to his past drug-taking.

Even so, Mr Jones elicits the nearest we have yet got to a confession. It’s
on Page 210 and takes the form of an admission that once he started trying to become an MP, he also started to ‘be more careful’ in order to protect his future career.

By the way, those of you still harbouring hopes that a Cameron government will be a change from New Labour should note that there were little love-letters to three Blairites – Andrew Adonis, Alan Milburn and Stephen Byers – in an interview that Shadow Chancellor George Osborne gave to an admiring Guardian newspaper last week.

How long before defections begin from New Labour to Blue Labour?

EU introducing kilometres by stealth

Have you noticed the new large blue metal markers on motorways, supposed to help the emergency services find you if you break down?

They are marked in kilometres, not miles, even though distances on all motorway signposts are still shown in miles.

Clearly the Government is preparing to introduce these unwanted measures by stealth, knowing it could never do so openly.


Find this story at www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1055560/Its-creepy-plotters -rule-really-scared-of.html

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UK False flag alert - All stops being pulled out

Bit of a weird one here - by some coincidence we had two news headlines next to each other today on the forum. They were
firstly 'No such organisation as Al Qaeda' - Daily Mail and
then 'Next 9/11 will be in UK' - Al Muhajiroun's Omar Bakri

So if (a) there's going to be another false flag soon in the UK as Al Muhajiroun's well briefed patsies and moles are saying and... (b) there is no such organisation as Al Qaeda... then who is going to carry it out?

Could this be why the Met is being plunged into Civil war? To paralyse Britain's police in any re-make of 7/7.

Certainly all the BBC and Parliamentary stops are being pulled out right now to kill any chance of the British political classes and public becoming aware of central facts incriminating the British Security Services that have emerged since 7/7.

Namely Peter Power's exercises, Netenyahu's Scotland Yard warning and the fact that Intelligence people had been following the alleged bombers for years.

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