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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: 911 Truth from Zionist-occupied USA Reply with quote

BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF THE 911 TRUTH MOVEMENT............FROM DEEP WITHIN ZIONIST OCCUPIED USA.

NB: The following is NOT a reflection of my personal opinions -- every word is directly attributable to statements on public record.


Could this have something to do with why our media never cover the REAL news?

The following is what Harold Wallace Rosenthal, personal assistant to New York Senator Jacob Javits, said in an interview he gave in 1976 to Walter White Jr., the editor of the Conservative monthly Western Front. <http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/zionism/hidden_tyranny.htm>  :


“Who has had control of the mass media in the 20th century? You cannot reach the people unless you control the media. We have the media under complete and absolute control. Look at the people we have in positions of absolute power over the American media:


Chairman of ABC - Leonard Goldenson
President of CBS -- James H. Rosenfield
Chairman of RCS -- David Sarnoff
Chief Executive of NBC - Fred Silverman
President of PBS -- Lawrence Grossman
Chairman of Time -- Arthur Heiskell
Editor of U.S. News & World Report - Marvin Stone
Chief Executive of Dow Jones -- Warren H. Phillips
Editor of Newsweek -- Lester Bernstein
President of TV Guide -- Walter Annenberg
President of New York Times -- Sulzberger family
TV program producer -- Norman Lear


... These and more are all are Jews. Any newspaper, which refuses to acquiesce, we bring to its knees by withdrawing advertising. Failing in this, we stop the supply of newsprint and ink...

We have it sewed up. We have infiltrated your churches completely and we now control the school system in the United States. It is a reality that we have complete control of organized Christianity. Almost anywhere -- completely. It is a marvel that the American people do not rise up and drive every Jew out of this country...

We Jews continue to be amazed with the ease by which Christian Americans have fallen into our hands. While the naive Americans wait for Khrushchev to bury them, we have taught them to submit to our every demand...

It's a very simple matter -- no one in the last three decades has achieved any political power without Jewish approval. Americans have not had a presidential choice since 1932. Roosevelt was our man; every president since Roosevelt has been our man..."


Rosenthal felt that Jewish power was so unassailable that he could make some extra cash by openly telling this story. "Too many Jews do not have the guts to tell you how we live and plan, but I am not intimated by anything or anyone," Rosenthal told White.

Rosenthal’s candor probably cost him his life -- he was killed in Aug. 12, 1976, in a foiled skyjacking in Istanbul. It was widely suspected the incident was a cover for Rosenthal's murder.

______________________________________________________________________ __




Of a sudden, the following comments begin to take on new meaning...


"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon to Foreign Minister Shimon Peres, on October 3, 2001 (IAP News)


"I am aware how almost impossible it is in this country to carry out a foreign policy [in the Middle East] not approved by the Jews... The terrific control the Jews have over the news media and the barrage the Jews have built up on congressmen .... I am very much concerned over the fact that the Jewish influence here is completely dominating the scene and making it almost impossible to get congress to do anything they don't approve of. The Israeli embassy is practically dictating to the congress through influential Jewish people in the country"
-- U.S. Sec. of State John Foster Dulles quoted on p.99 of Fallen Pillars by Donald Neff


"The Israelis control the policy in the congress and the senate."
-- U.S. Senator Fullbright, Chair of Senate Foreign Relations Committee: 10/07/1973 on CBS' "Face the Nation"

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject: What about here? Reply with quote

Who is controlling our media?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't agree with the emphasis that is being placed upon the Zionist/Israeli angle to 9/11.

Let's remember that the perpetraitors of 9/11 almost certainly included Jews, Christians, Moslems and Atheists - if we are to believe that Israel, the USA, Pakistan and others were involved. The victims of that crime also include Jews, Christians, Moslems etc. as the Pandora's Box that Cheney and pals opened continues to revererate around the world. Crying or Very sad

We're all in it together. Forget religious afiliations. To quote the amoeba-brained inhabitant of the Oval Office in one of his more coherent speeches - "you're either with us or against us". He's correct in one thing - we are against them. All decent people who value truth, justice, decency and a belief that crime must be punished are against them - them, those criminals who have created this pandemic of evil violence.

Religion and cultre doesn't enter into it (although they would have us believe differently). It is a contest between criminality and basic tolerant human decency. That's all ...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent this letter to my local news paper when I saw an article in it including an image with smiling and hugging Israeli solders - this was shortly after the recent Israeli aggression against the Palestinians:

'David Bourn

I am disgusted with your coverage of the 2006 Israeli genocide campaign in Palestine.

On page 6 of your 28.06.06 edition I was revolted to see images of smiling and hugging Israeli soldiers. Do you consider this to be a representative image of the current Israeli aggression?

Rest assured we know who the aggressors are in this conflict regardless of your blatant propaganda. I think you will find that genocide is against international law - there will be a reckoning in the fullness of time.

Do you call the Evening News a newspaper? You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself for your blatant bias.

You are a disgrace to humanity.'

This was the reply:

'Thank you for your letter. I am sorry our coverage of the Israeli hostage story, in particular the photograph we printed on June 26, caused you such offence.
However, trying to reduce the current Middle East problems to such a simplistic level as you have done is facile. It is also not journalism which, after all, is our job.
It would be very straightforward for us to publish only stories and images
which exactly correspond to your narrow view of politics.
But, by doing so, we would be failing our readership, which relies on our
factual, unbiased reporting of local and world affairs.
We are a reputable newspaper which believes in printing the truth, not some
people's warped versions of the truth.
If that policy does not find favour with you, there's not a lot I can add.
Don't hesitate to contact me directly on 01603 772493 if you wish to discuss the matter further.

Regards, Tim Williams, deputy editor, Evening News'


Draw your own conclusions...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Jewish or Zionist conspiracy? Reply with quote

I think it is misleading to talk about a Jewish lobby that controls US/UK media and politics. But to talk of a Zionist lobby is a different matter. Zionists are using Jewish people as a shield to protect their criminality. They use the anti-semitic charge to confuse people.

There are a number of lectures on Zionism in the archives of www.takingaim.info.
I recommend people to listen to it. Zionism forged an alliance with Nazism before WWII. They were happy with the holocaust because it would force Jewish people out of Europe and into the 'Zionist homeland' Palestine. They advocate and still advocate the forced removal and killing of Arabs to create their homeland. They are happy to act as a division of the US army in the Middle East. Netanyahu was a CIA agent.

Perhaps some people don't know it, but people part of the over-representation of Jews in the media are part of a Zionist conspiracy.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My conclusions are

1) Zionism is a wicked, racist, evil political ideology and should be rejected and challenged. Its closest modern equivalent is apartheid

2) Israeli politics is dominated by zionism, racism and injustice and the Israeli government should be held to account for its repeated war crimes against innocent civilians (just as the US and UK governments should)

3) Zionism does not equal being Jewish. There are many Jewish people who oppose zionism and the policies of the Israeli state and there are many zionists who are non-jews. Do not confuse the two

4) There are many zionists amongst the global elite and current events in the Middle East are undoubtedly, in my mind, linked to their overall game plan of fuelling a 'war without end' based on a clash of civilisations and religions, just as 9/11 is.

5) There are many many non zionists amongst the global elite. The PTB thrive on deception, secrecy, fear and polarised, dogmatic views. They have foot holds in all sides of this game. In the US, in the UK, in Syria and in Iran. In politics, in the media, amongst the spooks, in the military, in business/finance, etc. They are amongst zionists and Jewish zealots but equally they are amongst Al-CIAeda, the Taliban and Muslim zealots and the US neo-cons and Christian zealots as well.

The danger is that people see the evil that Israel does (or the evil that Al-CIAeda does or the evil that the 'coalition of the willing' does) and concludes: ahh, there is our enemy. We must fight this evil.

So please let's talk about the Israeli state (as opposed to Israeli people) and zionism, let's expose them for the evil they are but do so in a measured way that doesn't confuse anti-zionism with anti-jewishness and does not make the mistake that 'it is all a zionist plot'. That's what they want you to conclude

In many ways the PTB don't care who you conclude is your enemy as long as one way or another you get sucked into supporting one side or another in their phoney wars. The next round of cannon fodder. War is a scam, almost invariably triggered by false-flag terrorism or acts of war and state-sponsored lies. This is the pattern going back generations: USS Maine, Reichstag, Pearl Harbour, Gulf on Tonkin incident, Kuwaiti baby incubators lies, the WMD lies and so on. Try and see the current Israeli war crimes and the 'war on terror' in this context.

ALL war is a scam. That is the beauty of 9/11. By exposing the extent of the deceit and wickedness, hopefully, we all come to realise that all major wars have been faught to enrich the warmongers and their financiers and to enslave the people. At last we will realise that we have been deceived by a giant multi-layered confidence trick and we will no longer support or tolerate any war.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At this moment in time the important central fact of life is that the USA and our country are almost completely in the grip of people who espouse the Zionist agenda.
The fact that some of them are not Jews or the fact that a significant minority of Jews oppose Zionism should not prevent us from drawing as much attention as possible to the appalling situation in which we find ourselves.

One of the greatest crimes in history is being covered up by our establishment because that is the way the globalist money power wants it....and, yes, they support, to a man, the Israel project and all Israeli crimes....and yes, the vast majority of the money men are of the Jewish race.

Ultimately people, not abstract ideas, are doing this and we need Jews to realise how their people have been used. We need them to step away from these devils and join humanity in the battle against the globalists.

So far, apart from a few rare individuals they have failed to do this and this is a DISASTER for us all. Jews have always led protest movements and we need them on our side...but it is difficult for them because they will find themselves opposing the Israel project. The Zionists by using the 'holocaust' have got almost the entire race lined up in support of poor, new, little Israel (as Maureen Lipman called it on 'This Week' last Thursday night).

If we keep holding back and not spelling out the obvious the globalist/Zionists will walk all over us. Always remember how clever, alert and aggressive these people are. If we hold back for fear of upsetting decent Jewish people we are sunk. Upsets are unavoidable here. We are looking to change people's entire world view. This is bound to hurt.

Look at how absolutely determined and cynical the opposition is. Apart from 9/11 itself, if we are worried about appearing racist, look at the Jewish state. If a Jew marries outside the race, the partner is not granted citizenship. Look at the treatment of the Palestinians. What racism!...and yet, what has been promoted in the the UK. We have unquantifiable immigration as a major political problem and anti-racism policies coming out our ears. Do you think the PTB allow the one and impose the other because of their faith in the 'brotherhood of man' or are they dividing and manipulating us into a condition of helplessness by trying to break every bond that unites our society? The only thing that binds most English people now is if they happen to support a football team.

Zionism, of course, as Israel is populated by one race, is empowered to the maximum degree.

We have been divided again and again. Now we are ruled and most people feel pretty politically helpless.

That was the whole idea.

We must point out how controlled our society is and who is exercising that control. We must point out the disaster that this is for us all. I am sick of tip-toeing round the truth through being afraid that people will think me anti-semitic. It is about time the Jews woke up en-masse and recognised Zionism for what it is. The hour is late.

2000 years ago Christ condemned the Pharisees. These were the Jews who reinterpreted the ancient texts in a racist and ethnocentric fashion, approving all kinds of abuse and dishonesty against the 'goyim'. This is Zionism. Christ openly and severely rejected proto-Zionism then. We should do so now.
He also castigated the scribes and lawyers.."Your justice must exceed theirs"....We seem to have less of a problem with this.

Let us not fail to mention this elephant in the room.




Here is a letter I wrote to many newspapers and columnists today. Is it racist?

Dear Sir or Madam,

US Ambassador John Bolton said there was no moral equivalence between
the civilian casualties from the Israeli raids in Lebanon and those
killed in Israel from "malicious terrorist acts".

Bolton confers moral ascendance to Jews and the Jewish state. Even
though the Israeli campaign in Lebanon is essentially a campaign of
terror waged against innocent civilians.

According to the Geneva Convention occupied peoples have a right to
take military action against the occupier. This means that actions
taken against the Israeli military are legitimate. On the other hand
the Israeli attacks on Gaza (effectively an open prison camp) and
Lebanon are 'collective punishments' and illegal under international
law.

Israel is clearly not interested in negotiation. It seems that it is
trying to provoke Syria and Iran into open involvement in the conflict
in order that the USA be given justification to attack them. The
pressure for these actions has been building for quite some time.

One way or another Iran is being set up for attack. If this happens
the world will inevitably move towards a massive war. Such a war could
quickly go nuclear and kill us all. The forces behind the Israel/US/UK
alliance are the international bankers/financial oligarchy. These
people already control our governments but this is not enough for
them. They want a one-world government to control themselves from the
centre. Only then will they feel that their obscene wealth has become
secure.

They are using Zionism to achieve this end. Unfortunately most
ordinary jews have bought into this. They cannot see what is really
going on.

Many of us are now realising that we live in a Zionist not a Christian culture.

Many individual jews oppose the actions of Israel but, if this World
War is created and we survive it, people will not be in a mood to
discriminate. We will make sure that no Jew holds power over us ever
again.

Sincerely,



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent letter kbo234......did it get printed anywhere?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to my knowledge.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kbo234 wrote:
Let us not fail to mention this elephant in the room.


Agreed. It absolutely needs to be discussed. Zionism is wicked and racist and higly influential. Israel's crimes need to be exposed.

But let's not fall in to the traps that the PTB set for us.................

The globalists' project is a clever one that they have been playing it a long time.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:31 am    Post subject: MUCH WORSE THAN HE THOUGHT Reply with quote

FROM THE 911 TRUTH MOVEMENT....................

----- Original Message -----
From:
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:33 AM
Subject: MUCH worse than I thought


Received the following in response to my post yesterday re the comments of various prominent individuals about the pro-Israeli Jewish-controlled American media. It’s from a Jewish gentlemen in Maryland...


Sir,

While I found your comments and quotes to be accurate, the mere half-dozen names cited by Harold Rosenthal are woefully inadequate and don’t even begin to paint the picture of how deeply and dangerously the American media apparatus has been penetrated by pro-Israeli Jews. Even the following list, compiled by Jeffrey Blankfort, constitutes the tip of a humongous iceberg.

The entire media machine in this country — television, radio, newspapers, even book publishing -- has been totally and thoroughly taken over by pro-Israeli forces. The “news” the average American sees, hears and reads is what he/she is MEANT to see, hear or read. Nothing more. Your mind is theirs to control. Their views and opinions are designed to subliminally become YOUR views and opinions (and your childrens’) without you ever suspecting it.

This is mind-control at its most frighteningly dangerous. The naïve, plastic mind of the average American is being manipulated on the most sinister level. It is being achieved so successfully, that most Americans know nothing about the true perpetrators of 9/11. This could ONLY have been achieved through a media controlled by the perpetrators.

Fear for the future of the world.

Thank you for spreading the word. Incidentally, I am Jewish.

Sincerely,

David Emerson



Partial List of Pro-Israeli Jews who Control the American Media
compiled by Jeffrey Blankfort


MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.

LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner

NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News

JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC

DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News

SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media giant" (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.

MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.

RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the World (Jewish mother)

MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS

DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS

JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS

DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS

SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment

LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment

BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.

SHERRY LANSING, President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.

HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.

BRAD SIEGEL, President, Turner Entertainment.

PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp., owner of Fox TV

MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his "mentor."

ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe and other publications.

WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post. Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel media."

RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post

JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe

NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on domestic terrorism.

DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times network of "alternative weeklies." DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund

KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker

BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal Entertainment

KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch

RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer and Bill O'Reilly.

TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.

MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL

WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL- TimeWarner

JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment

JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2

SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment

GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment

STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks

LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment

JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment

MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"

DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"

HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America

AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures

JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations

ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications

BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment

IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications

WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN's Late Edition

LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live

TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline

ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter

PAULA ZAHN, CNN Host

MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes

BARBARA WALTERS, Host, ABC's 20-20

MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review

BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week

DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of...

CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post

HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek

WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director Project for a New American Century (PNAC)

RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle

PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,

RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets

MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations

DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has Israeli flag on his home page.

BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.

ANDREW LACK, president of NBC

DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins

DAVID REZNIK, Editor, The New Yorker

NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York

HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker

SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications, includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group, includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement; American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.

DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated Press.

PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's

RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.

LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This type of information is more helpful when it is comparative.

How disproportionate is the representation of pro-Israeli jews in key positions of power in the mainstream media relative to other faith groups and relative to the percentage of pro-Isreali jews in the wider society. A bit more of a scientific approach would make the case more compelling.

How does the over representation pro-Israeli jews in the media compare to other key institutions such as the intelligence services, military or law?

How does the over representation pro-Israeli jews in the media compare to other key influential groups who also appear over represented?

Such as the over representation amongst the global elite of members of Skull and Bones, Freemasons, Bilderburgers, CFR, etc.

How do these groups relate to each other?

Israel and zionism is undoubtedly very significant in understanding the globalists' strategy and the workings of the PTB.

But the PTB do not equal the zionists and if we solely present the globalists' plans for a NWO and a New Americam Century as a zionist plot, we miss a major part of the picture and we lay the 9/11 truth movement wide open to being labelled (as it has so often already) as anti-semitic by our critics.

I hope that makes sense. BB, I am not saying this information is wrong, I just reckon it doesn't give the full picture which to me is multi, multi layered, wheels within wheels. We should always be aware of this and that zionism is a principally a creation of the PTB. They use it as a tool in their game. Zionism is not the be all and end all.

Did anyone catch Newt Gingrich on newsnight last night declaring that World War 3 has started? Israel is claiming Iran and Syria are behind the shelling by HizB based on the alleged origin of the shell casings. The crazies are making their case for war
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