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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: Peter Power reveals his 7/7 client on Mike Rudin's blog |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/06/controversy_and_conspira cies_2.html
Quote: | 177. At 1:48pm on 05 Oct 2008, PGPOwer wrote:
There has been much nonsense written about why my company ran an exercise on 7 July 2005 that had very close parallels to the real thing that day. Since then I have made several attempts to add my own comments to numerous sites that seem to get increasingly excited about their own conspiracy theories and in the process exclude any rational debate. It seems those who occupy the world of finding conspiracy theories to replace just about any coincidence, do not want to have any dialogue with those offering a different view, but I have not yet given up hope. I am therefore hoping, perhaps naively, that someone might like to read an honest and factual account about a particular exercise my company ran in London three years ago.
Unfortunately, the BBC have just postponed a programme in their ?conspiracy files? series that would have done this. Our client three years ago agreed to be named in the BBC programme since the attitude of the producer and his team was very balanced (several conspiracy theorists were also invited to take part). We even allowed our complete exercise material to be made available to the BBC. Regrettably broadcasting it now might jeopardise an ongoing court case, so they had little choice about postponing it to next year.
Early in 2005 Reed Elsevier, an organisation specialising in information and publishing that employs 1,000 people in and around London, asked us to help them prepare an effective crisis management plan and rehearse it before sign-off. Several draft scenarios were drawn up and the crisis team themselves set the exercise date and time: 9.00am on 7 July.
The test was planned as a table-top walk through for about six people (the CM team) in a lecture room with all injects simulated. Everything was on MS PowerPoint. The location of their Central London office near to Chancery Lane was chosen as one test site. With many staff travelling to work via the London underground system, the chosen exercise simulated incendiary devices on three trains, very similar to a real IRA attack in 1992, as well as other events.
As there had been eighteen terrorist bomb attacks on tube trains prior to 2005, choosing the London Underground was logical rather than just prescient. With this in mind it was hardly surprising that Deutsche Bank had run a similar exercise a few days before and, prior to that, a multi-agency (and much publicised) exercise code-named Osiris II had simulated a terrorist attack at Bank tube station. Moreover, I had also taken part in a BBC Panorama programme in 2004 as a panellist alongside Michael Portillo MP et al, in an unscripted debate (we had no idea at all what the scenario was to be?) on how London might once again, deal with terrorist attacks, only this time it was fictional (created entirely by the BBC).
In short, some of the research for our exercise had already been done. The scenario developed for our client even started by using fictitious news items from the Panorama programme then, as with any walk through exercise, events unfolded solely on a screen as dictated by the facilitator without any external injects or actions beyond the exercise room. Also factored into the scenario was to be an above ground fictitious bomb exploding not far from the head office of the protected Jewish Chronicle magazine where for exercise purposes, our imagined terrorists would have been aware that commuters would now be walking to work (past a building already considered a target) as some tube stations would have been closed.
Of just eight nearby tube stations that fell within possible exercise scope, three were chosen that, by coincidence, were involved in the awful drama that actually took place on 7 July 2005. A level of scenario validation that on this occasion, we could have done without.
An exercise that turns into the real thing is not that unusual. For example, in January 2003, thirty people were injured when a tube train derailed and hit a wall at speed. At the same time, the City of London Police were running an exercise for their central casualty bureau where the team quickly abandoned their plans and swung into action to cope with the real thing.
For a surprising number of people such coincidents cannot be accepted as such. There just has to be a conspiracy behind them, despite the obvious point that painstaking research will always identify probable above possible scenarios. By the way, the only reason I was asked to speak on TV news that day, when there was still much confusion about the real tragedies, was to encourage more organisations to thoroughly plan their own exercises knowing the threat of terrorism is and remains, very real. One tragic consequence being Islam, a great Abrahamic, monotheistic faith (along with Judaism and Christianity), has undeservedly become vilified by some people.
Peter Power
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Yes Mr power and on 9/11 a 'hijacked planes hitting buildings' exercise was going on also in NY, so these coincidences do happen with incredible frequency! Power appeared in that pre 7/7 BBC dramatisation about 3 tube bombs and a vehicle detonation simultaneous terrorist attack in London. The fact remains the 7/7 patsies would have needed Dr Who's time travel tardis to have gotten on those tube trains, the trains that CCTV coincidentally also failed to record 'the terrorist' time travellers boarding. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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As well as the 3 tube stations, Power here for the first time admits that the terror-drill he was rehearsing that morning featured a fourth above-ground bomb - just as did the May 2004 Panorama program: Quote: | Also factored into the scenario was to be an above ground fictitious bomb exploding not far from the head office of the protected Jewish Chronicle magazine | So now at last we understand his reference to 'Jewish businessmen' which he made in his earlier accounts of the drill. The JC's location at Furnival St., Holborn, is not very far from Tavistock Square. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Reed Elsevier ran the ExCel Arms Fair till late 2007 (when they quit, due to activist agitation), so their morals are suspect; they might well be willing to provide the 'cover' for Power's narrative.
Did anyone know Power had been on the Panorama panel? _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Peter Power wrote: | By the way, the only reason I was asked to speak on TV news that day, when there was still much confusion about the real tragedies, was to encourage more organisations to thoroughly plan their own exercises knowing the threat of terrorism is and remains, very real. |
Really really really real.
Almost an afterthought.
Hey, a few bombs have gone off in London, many people are dead and injured.
Who do we speak to ?
I know, Peter Power is the go to man.
Yeah, let's call him.
Mr Power have you heard about the bombs ?
Well yes, but I'm getting paid to run an exercise that includes all probable above possible scenarios at the moment.
Good. Well we would like you to abandon that and get your ass over to TV central because we have lot's of cash for you. OK ?
OK. I'm on my way. Even though this exercise has now gone live. What do I do about the hairs on the back on my neck sticking up ? Will I be able to get into the cab ?
Don't worry Mr Power, we know you'll be able to switch from slow time to quick time thinking and the hairs will adjust accordingly. But just say it on air when you get here OK. Hairs, neck, spooky, works really, really well.
OK, I'm on my way. My client will have to cope without any more injects, so that I can scive off and moonlight in a real time scenario to earn double bubble while the external parameters are still unknown . . .
I'll address the fallout over 3 years down the line. Yes. That works. _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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interesting.
best get to work on researching Reed Elsevier. i still think theres a chance the Power isn't inlvoved.. or fully involved in anything here. He has probably been briefed by someone, but its perhaps unlikely he's aware of much if these drills were, as most of us suspect, part of a false flag operation.
If this is the case then he may have spoken out prematurely and their might be some clues on the net we can catch before they get deleted.
but getting back to Power's comments...
Lets assume that 7/7 was a standard terrorist attack by the people and for the reasons in the official narrative.
Visor Consultants, presumably using data supplied by our intelligence services, calcultated that 8 tube stations in London were potential targets of suicide bombers. 3 of the tube stations were picked for an exercise, and by coincidence those 3 were also actually attacked. Given that there is no neccesity for precisely 3 attacks to take place at once, the odds of this happening are fairly low but not impossible by any means. But this coincidence happening on the same day and at the same time, seems, to me, to be very unlikely indeed. It depends on how often visor carry out these kinds of exercises i guess, but unless tube bomb exercises are being carry out weekly, it's quite remarkable.
Peter Powers comment seems to play down the co-incidence as a as fairly expectable scenerio, and the tone of it would appear to poo poo the mindset of anyone who might find this coincidence alarming.. Despite his own comments on the day...
"... at the EXACT SAME TIME at the EXACT same places...."
".. so the hairs are standing up on the back of my neck ..." _________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" |
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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This is the post to which Peter Power is responding and revealing the name of Reed Elsevier as Visor's client that day on Mike Rudin's blog
Quote: | # 168. At 08:44am on 07 Jul 2008, goldtruthseeker wrote:
DANIEL ELLSBERG, THE FORMER US DEFENCE department whistleblower has stated: "It seems to me quite plausible that Pakistan was quite involved in this ... To say Pakistan is, to me, to say CIA because ... it's hard to say that the ISI knew something that the CIA had no knowledge of."
W ith CIA backing, the ISI has developed, since the early 1980s, into a state within a state which wields enormous power andThe case of Ahmed confirms that parts of the ISI directly supported and financed the 911 hijackers and it has long been established that the ISI has acted as go-between in intelligence operations on behalf of the CIA.
(see sources; (1), (9), (17), (1, (19), (20) below and previous post by me)
Senator Bob Graham, chairman of the Senate select committee on intelligence, is on record as saying:"I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of
the terrorists were assisted, not just
in financing ... by a sovereign
foreign government."
Horst Ehmke, former coordinator of the West German secret services, added:
"The Terrorists could not have carried out such an operation with four hijacked planes without the support of a secret service."
That might give meaning to the reaction on 9/11 of Richard Clarke, the White House counter-terrorism chief, when he saw the passenger lists later on the day itself he said: "I was stunned ... that there were ?al-Qaida? operatives on board using names that the FBI knew were al-Qaida.? It was just that, as Dale Watson, head of counter-terrorism at the FBI told him, the "CIA forgot to tell us about them".
here we have connections between the intelligence services and the 911 attacks - but what about the other so called ?Al-Qaeda? attacks, like the london bombings in 2005?
on The July 29 2005 edition of FOX News Channel's Day Side programme Former Justice Dept. prosecutor and Terror expert John Loftus revealed the mastermind of the 7/7 London Bombings, Haroon Rashid Aswat, was a British Intelligence Asset double agent.
Loftus revealed that Aswat was part of the
Al-Muhajiroun group and assistant to head, abu hamza .
Al-Muhajiroun, which means ?The Emigrants?, was the recruiting arm of ?Al-Qaeda? in London and had formed during the Kosovo crisis, during which, Fundamentalist Muslim Leaders (Or what is now referred to as
?Al Qaeda? ) were recruited by MI6 to fight in Kosovo.
(see sources; (1), (9), (21), (22, (23) below and previous post by me))
Loftus stated that
"...back in the late 1990s, the leaders all worked for British intelligence in Kosovo. British intelligence actually hired some Al-Qaeda guys to help defend the Muslim rights in Albania and in Kosovo. That's when
Al-Muhajiroun got started." (see sources; (21) below and previous post by me))
in 1999 Aswat came to America trying to set up a terrorist training school in Oregon. when authorities tried to act the headquarters of the US Justice Department ordered the Seattle prosecutors not to touch him because he was working for British intelligence
(see sources; (1), (9), (21), (22, (23) below and previous post by me))
here we have strong links with the cia, ISI and MI6 in the two attacks - but the similarities do not end there. both attacks were mirrored by training exercises simulating the exact same events
on 911 September 11, 2001, NORAD held ?Live-Fly? Training Exercises called Vigilant Guardian and OPERATION NORTHERN VIGILANCE simulating hijacked planes hitting buildings on the Northern seaboard. this had the effect of preventing the hijacked flights from being intercepted by Norad fighters - as they thought it was part of the exercise (see sources; (1), (9), (24), (25), (26), (27), (2 below and previous post by me))
and in london On the evening of 7th July 2005, information came to light about a private company , Visor Consultants, running a terror rehearsal operation in London at the time that real explosions were reported to have occurred on the transport network. the stations used in the exercise were the exact ones used by the real bombers.
(see sources; (1), (29), (30) below and previous post by me))
SOURCES - also in previous post
(21) - Former Justice Dept. prosecutor John Loftus on July 29 2005 edition
of FOX News Channel's Day Side programme
view here on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoxPY3H5EqA
On FOX News Channel's Day Side, Terrorism Expert John Loftus revealed that Haroon Rashid Aswat, the suspect wanted by British Police for "masterminding" the July 7th London bombings and July 21st attempted bombings is in fact an asset of MI6, the British Secret Service. According to Loftus, Aswat has been under the protection of MI6 for many years.
full transcripots at http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=1425
(22) - The Insider, "US regime actively blocked attempts to stop London bomber",
26 July 2005. - Why did high-level US officials want to protect Haroon Aswat, one of the four London bombers? US Justice Department prosecutors planned to arrest and detain Aswat, but were ordered not to do so, and these strange orders came directly from the highest level. The fact that at least one of the four alleged terrorists visited the USA before the 7/7 attacks is beyond dispute. In contrast, claims by Western intelligence services that the bombers visited Pakistan have been exposed as false.
(23) - Seattle Times, "Effort here to charge London suspect was blocked", 24 July 2005.
(24) - Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building
[By JOHN J. LUMPKIN, Associated Press Writer ]
the Associated Press later had to admit the fact that the CIA were running drills of crashing planes into buildings on the morning of 9/11.
OPERATION VIGILANT GUARDIAN: This exercise simulated hijacked planes in the north eastern sector and started to coincide with 9/11. Lt. Col. Dawne Deskins, NORAD unit's airborne control and warning officer, was overseeing the exercise. At 8:40am she took a call from Boston Center which said it had a hijacked airliner. Her first words, as quoted by Newhouse News Service were, "It must be part of the exercise." This is another example of how the numerous drills on the morning of 9/11 deliberately distracted NORAD so that the real hijacked planes couldn't be intercepted in time.
(25) - September 11, 2001: NORAD on Alert for Emergency Exercises
Lieutenant Colonel Dawne Deskins and other day shift employees at NORAD?s Northeast Air Defence Sector (NEADS) in Rome, NY, start their workday. NORAD is conducting a week-long, large-scale exercise called Vigilant Guardian. [Newhouse News Service, 1/25/2002]
Vanity Fair reports that the ?day?s exercise? (presumably Vigilant Guardian) is ?designed to run a range of scenarios, including a ?traditional? simulated hijack in which politically motivated perpetrators commandeer an aircraft, land on a Cuba-like island, and seek asylum.? [Vanity Fair, 8/1/2006]
Deskins and other NORAD officials later are initially confused about whether the 9/11 attacks are real or part of the exercise
(26) - (9:00 a.m.) September 11, 2001: Northern Vigilance Operation False Blips on Radar Screens - many minutes into the real 9/11 attacks, false radar blips causing confusion among NORAD personnel. Additional details, such as whose radar screens have false blips and over what duration, are unknown. .[Toronto Star, 12/9/2001; National Post, 10/19/2002]
(27) - NORAD confirms that ?it was running two mock drills on Sept. 11 at various radar sites and Command Centers in the United States and Canada,? one of these being Vigilant Guardian.[New Jersey Star-Ledger, 12/5/2003]
(2 -At least one military exercise this morning is reported to include simulated information injected onto radar screens (see (9:00 a.m.) September 11, 2001). At the current time, despite the earlier crash of Flight 11, NORAD has yet to cancel a major exercise it is in the middle of (see After 9:03 a.m. September 11, 2001).
[Air War Over America: Sept. 11 Alters Face Of Air Defence Mission (Hardcover)
by Leslie Filson 2004, pp. 59]
(29) - BBC Radio 5 Live's Drivetime programme 7th July 2005
Peter Power Managing Director of Visor Consultants the private firm running the terror rehearsal operation on Radio 5 Live's Drivetime - from transcript :
POWER: ?...at half-past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for, er, over, a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning,
PETER ALLEN: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?
POWER: Precisely, and it was, er, about half-past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision, 'this is the real one' and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from 'slow time' to 'quick time' thinking and so on.?
The client for whom the terror rehearsal was being organised ha snever been revealed
(30) - www.cooperativeresearch.org complete 7/7 timeline
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'How the fictional attack unfolded':
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/3715899.stm
Just over a year before 7/7 bombings, Panorama put out this programme, with the scenario of THREE tube trains and one road vehicle (a lorry) being used. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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