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A Sharp Major
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Marky,
| Quote: | | I'm not in the business of education and spoon-feeding truthers, I just give food for thought to fence sitters and more discriminating truthers. Like truthers often advise; do your own research. |
Did you miss that bit?
I provide link, you click, you look and then you and others just bleat about how it isn't evidence. If you think that Mr Avery is good for the truth movement, I'm delighted. Thank you for your co-operation in further discrediting the truth movement.  Good lad. But (sigh) here's a story about another random registrant.
http://www.wvrecord.com/news/204911-family-gets-550000-verdict-for-har assment-by-photographer
All good news for the truth movement. This stuff doesn't take long marky and I'd wager that you spend more time on your computer and truthiness than I do.
Yesterday there were 358 architects and engineers on ae911truth. Twenty four hours later there are 357. I wonder what happened to Bongo's entry? He disappeared a while ago from ae911truth about the same time he stopped posting here. Is he still here (911.co.uk) under a different user name (his real one?)
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Here I am offering ungrateful truthers help after all. During a coffee break I looked at another two ae911truth registrants
http://www.michaelarmenia.com/bio.html
Please compare his claims, see if you can spot the BS. Interesting that you can't find the websites you need to check licence claims marky. Too much time googling other truthers' websites rather than where real information is to be found?
Sean Glazier. so keen on 'the truth' he's signed up twice.
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A Sharp Major
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And there is a UK registrant claiming to be a member of the Institute of Structural Engineers and the Institute of Civil Engineers. Run those two past me again.
While I'd be asking 'are you sure?' and giving Mr Registrant a chance to review and amend his claim, Gage has verified him.
A counter to Gage's band of 'construction professionals'.
http://www.ae911truth.info
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marky 54
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no, i expected a off response as soon as somebody attempted to confirm your claims.
| Quote: | | If you think that Mr Avery is good for the truth movement, I'm delighted. Thank you for your co-operation in further discrediting the truth movement. Good lad. |
your full of *. i never said he was good for a truth movement. i said this.
| Quote: | just incase anybody is wondering if it is a different Ronald F Avery.
as for the information on the universe link, i see as much evidence for what he is saying as i do evidence for god exsisting in human form.
why is one acceptable and not the other? theres no evidence for either.
yet i'd bet lots of engineers believe in god.
it dos'nt mean they are incapable at their jobs or have poor knowledge in other areas, but i can at least understand why some see it as smear material or even laughable. |
anyway thanks for confirming your a waste of time. |
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marky 54
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| i'm checking out your links. |
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A Sharp Major
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Marky of Dudley said,
| Quote: | | i never said he was good for a truth movement. |
I never said you did. I said (with italics added for emphasis) | Quote: | | if you think that Mr Avery is good for the truth movement, I'm delighted. |
You had several choices better than 'I never said'.
Anyway, as for how many fakes, spoofs, etc I estimate, I am not 'researching' this. Most if not all that have a statement that I have read write discredited rubbish, regardless of their credentials. A token sample turns up BS artists, kooks, interior designers, an 'urban activist' (?) and shed builders, very lapsed (failed) technical types and one guy entered twice. Maybe he loves himself too much. Some of those I have linked and or named above. You truth researchers should be able to find the regulators' sites for US licences without help from me and expose the liars, not make excuses for them. (I never said you did.)
http://www.ae911truth.info/
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marky 54
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| Quote: | Interesting that you can't find the websites you need to check licence claims marky. Too much time googling other truthers' websites rather than where real information is to be found?
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no not really. sure i read this site and i always read critics comments and try to follow up anything they flag up.
the main parts i look at are critics corner and 9/11 truth news. i always keep upto date with what the mainstream media are saying also. and check we are change (U.S.) to see what confronted officals are saying when confronted or interviewed.
i don't know the truth but i am concerned about certain things, and i don't trust anyone group more than the other.
i try to get a balance from both sides and weight it up.
also this is the only site i post on.
its impossible for me to notice everything, or be aware of all the information that goes for or against something.
so yes sometimes i need certain things pointing out for me to be aware of it. but i thought that was the point in a forum and debating information.
if it was'nt for that i would still be unaware of the possible fakes(still checking) in ae9/11 truth |
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| A Sharp Major wrote: | And there is a UK registrant claiming to be a member of the Institute of Structural Engineers and the Institute of Civil Engineers. Run those two past me again.
While I'd be asking 'are you sure?' and giving Mr Registrant a chance to review and amend his claim, Gage has verified him. |
More cheap innuendo and smear, the implication being that Gage's campaign is as phoney as his lists (plural).
So far you've turned up some alleged dirt on an associated photographer and a musician - who nobody could mistake for a 'core' member or a qualified professional engineer or architect.
Now, just because a US website prefers the more commonly used modern term 'institute' to the correct and no doubt would-be ancient sounding (est. 1908) 'institution' (as in Institution of Structural Engineers) is evidence only of your wish to slyly imply deception and nothing more.
Mr Inman is a duly registered member of the Institution
http://www.istructe.org/yearbook/search3.asp?membernumber=020229095&to daydate=08052008
After that initial discovery, and not finding the ICE's site very search-friendly membershipwise (obviously, not being as clever as wot you are) I really couldn't be ars*d with any more of your b*llocks and probably won't again.
Oh yes, very impressive.
Rather leading use of loaded adjectives for a *scientific and technical* site (*chuckle), but hey! What would you really expect from such an enterprise?
Maybe it's a work in progress, and the enthusiasm for the joke - sorry project - wore off at about the same rate as the after dinner coke.
But stick with it - I'm sure registrants will find that one day, those big Blackwater contracts will just roll on in.
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A Sharp Major
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Thank you Chek, you can't say I didn't hedge my bets on institute/institution and the registrant's validity. Well spotted, cookie in the post.
That the error does raise suspicions of fraud should not be a surprise. Whatever side of the pond the error's provenance derives, accuracy, truth, thorough research, 'peer review' (sic) are all important if the truth movement are to be taken seriously.
This time next year this error will -very likely- not have been corrected.
| Quote: | | So far you've turned up some alleged dirt on an associated photographer and a musician - who nobody could mistake for a 'core' member or a qualified professional engineer or architect. |
So why aren't they in the supporters' list? They appear as professionals. Look again.
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A Sharp Major
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Sir Marky of Dudley,
Your last post suggests you have an open mind and are a discriminating 'truther'. Bravo (I'm serious), position well stated.
| Quote: | | also this is the only site i post on. |
Are you sure?
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| A Sharp Major wrote: | Sir Marky of Dudley,
Your last post suggests you have an open mind and are a discriminating 'truther'. Bravo (I'm serious), position well stated.
| Quote: | | also this is the only site i post on. |
Are you sure? |
yes 100% certain. what makes you doubt it?
back to the original topic,
ive learnt an important lesson here. i should always check out who the person is(if possible) before coming to an opinion about what they are saying or believe. |
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A Sharp Major
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| Quote: | | So far you've turned up some alleged dirt on an associated photographer and a musician - who nobody could mistake for a 'core' member or a qualified professional engineer or architect. |
They claim to be architects or engineers. What about Sean Glazier, so good he posted twice? A few others seem to have had career changes since graduating with engineering or architecture degrees so it's possible that they weren't very good at it, degree or not. And one chap has a twenty seven year old photograph of himself up. Doesn't mean he's not a good architect but it does suggest misrepresentation. Okay it isn't a sex buddies agency either. Cough cough!
My IStructE chap, the mistake wouldn't be a Gage error as the bios are actually autobios. I wonder if Mr Inman knows he's on the list. Sir N***** F***** sure as hell didn't. (Entry has been removed).
Gage seems to be getting wise to spoofs of the Hugh Janus, Jack Hoff, Alfred Hart, Ignor Amus, Richard Head variety . Fun while it lasted although they had nothing to do with me.
Sure you only post here Marky?
| Quote: | | yes 100% certain. what makes you doubt it? |
Been busy with the delte button at t*ea*u*th*b Marky?  Good thing my screen shots of your profile aren't affected (saved for future reference), nor is the entry in the 'Google' index. At least it wasn't a truth website. If you have an internet profile, you can be checked out. No comeback if you put it there! It would have been easier to deny being from Dudley.
| Quote: | | ive learnt an important lesson here. i should always check out who the person is(if possible) before coming to an opinion about what they are saying or believe. |
Good of you to say so. I wish all 'truthers' would admit to critics 'having a point' or even being correct from time to time.
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I said I wouldn't do links yet here I am again,
Shane Eden,
http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=996701
Not claiming to be an architect but get a load of his 'make me rich' site;
http://freedomtour2004.tripod.com/
Then there is this chap
http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=999357
Title: | Quote: | | Architectural Consultant |
Bio: | Quote: | | I am not an architect, however I have worked as a consultant with one. |
| Quote: | | I am not an architect |
but he calls himself an | Quote: | | architectural consultant |
? What, architects consult him? 'Hey truther, where's my coffee?' Confused? Every time I spend five minute looking at the list I find another self publicist, chancer, fraud, chest beater, parrot, truth bender.
Gage must be at a breakthrough point by now. He has lawyers and police officers on board as well as structural engineers. Can we expect a technical case, arrests and a court case? If so, it could have a bespoke soundtrack and groovy visuals from all the musicians and artists on board.
Sarcasm alarm! I'm not holding my breath.
http://www.chem1.com/acad/sci/pseudosci.html
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Robby hasn't been back to withdraw or contest his psuedo-science lesson on cutting torches. In fact he hasn't posted at all since I told him he was talking out of his tin foil hat.
Maybe he has a day job.
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The old modus operandi gets a bit tired, don't you think A#M?
First we have Pilots for Truth member (and oh! ex-CIA) John Lear wibbling on about forests and lakes on the moon and otherwise spouting theories guaranteed to well, make a stab at what they're guaranteed to do.
Pilots for Truth the organisation, of course, does not advance any theories and only calls for a new investigation.
Then to follow we have AE911 member (and oh! ex-Halliburton subsiduary employee) Chuck Pegelow wibbling on about nukes guaranteed to, well, make another stab at what's going on.
AE911 the organisation, of course, does not advance any theories and only ...well, you know the score by now.
And ol' Troy (the well known harrasser) sounds a few chromosomes short of a genetic code too. Or is that very westvirginianist of me?
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Oh my Lord, someone has been busy with ae911truthers
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kookloons&p=r
Not very highbrow either way but a legitimate way of showing up bandwagon jumpers, frauds, self publicists etc. I'm not keen on the disrespecting of a trade because the truther tradesman is an idiot but overall, a valuable exposé.
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| Quote: | | And ol' Troy (the well known harrasser) |
Doesn't sound like the kind of guy with whom I would wish to break bread but his harrassing is mild compared with that of WAC, Nico Haupt, Alex Jones, German Talis or any number of evangelical truthers.
I see that Sean Glazier is so good he still appears twice on ae911truth. How dishonest is that? As dishonest as including landscape architects in the core list.
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Looks as if Gage's money spinner is running out of puff. Running out of disgraces to their professions and their groupies.
Gage had a dream.....of 1000 architects and engineers on the truthiness bandwagon by 11th September 2008.
http://www.ae911truth.org/actionalerts/
He got less than half of that. I admit to being surprised and a touch ashamed that there are so many half wits licenced or registered in the professions of architecture and engineering. They are however a very small minority. Two members of the Institution of Structural Engineers are 'members' of ae911truthiness, 20998 are not.
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| A Sharp Major wrote: | Looks as if Gage's money spinner is running out of puff. Running out of disgraces to their professions and their groupies.
Gage had a dream.....of 1000 architects and engineers on the truthiness bandwagon by 11th September 2008.
http://www.ae911truth.org/actionalerts/
He got less than half of that. I admit to being surprised and a touch ashamed that there are so many half wits licenced or registered in the professions of architecture and engineering. They are however a very small minority. Two members of the Institution of Structural Engineers are 'members' of ae911truthiness, 20998 are not. |
I agree. It is a sad fact that as many as 20998 members of the Institution of Structural Engineers must be half-wits if they are unable to recognise a controlled demolition.   |
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Any chance of you giving sufficient detail of your published physics papers and books Micpsi, that I and others may read your work? I've asked enough times and you've visited the site enough times since.
Be sure to let us (truthers and critics) know if your bluff has been called. Continuing to ignore the reasonable request will suffice. Thank you.
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| A Sharp Major wrote: | Any chance of you giving sufficient detail of your published physics papers and books Micpsi, that I and others may read your work? I've asked enough times and you've visited the site enough times since.
Be sure to let us (truthers and critics) know if your bluff has been called. Continuing to ignore the reasonable request will suffice. Thank you. |
I visit this site as an anonymous 9/11 truther, not as a theoretical physicist. I feel under no obligation to defend my credentials and publications. The only reason why you ask for them is not because you are truly interested to study my research but to search for something you can disagree with and then cite as a reason to discredit the statements I have made here, as you certainly cannot do so on their own merit. I will not fall for the ad hominem attacks you no doubt wanted to make and so i shall ignore your request. If you wish to interpret my refusal to make my identity public as having my bluff called, then persist in your delusion. I care not one jot for such mind games. |
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| Quote: | | I visit this site as an anonymous 9/11 truther, not as a theoretical physicist. |
Then why claim to be a theoretical physicist?
Readers on both sides of the so-called debate can make their own minds up about your credentials.
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