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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Pentagon attack - key eyewitness' story investigated Reply with quote

New CIT Interview with Lloyde England


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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4770996865659781278

In which the number one witness to the south of Citgo approach of the OCT seems ..... well, I'd better not prejudice your judgement.
Watch and decide for yourself.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wham - bam! Some great hunter/raptor work.
Citizen Investigation Team (CIT) presents this follow-up presentation to their previous piece, "The First Known Accomplice?". Get ready for an intense, surreal, and disturbing up-close personal experience with the famous taxicab driver Lloyde England who claims the windshield of his cab was speared by a light pole that was allegedly hit by the plane that allegedly hit the Pentagon on 9/11.
The physical impossibility of Lloyde's story is exposed as CIT deconstructs the details and takes a road trip with Lloyde to physically examine the actual cab that he still has preserved under a tarpaulin on his 30 acres of woods in rural Virginia.
In light of the now proven approach of the plane on the north side of the former Citgo gas station, proving it was nowhere near the downed light poles, it has become painfully clear that Lloyde's story doesn't add up.
See www.ThePentaCon.com for more details.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shades of "The Lone Gunman" Episode 1 scene where a pole is knocked off the WTC.

The physical evidence on the lampposts is very compelling.

It appears to me that Lloyd was a Manchurian Candidate selected because he was a known Conspiracy Theorist and also known to the FBI, (his wife worked for for the FBI, she may have inadvertently blabbed). Lloyd was completely confused when confronted with the photographic evidence. It would have been interesting to hear where Lloyd was the evening of 10/9/01.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting development on another forum which shall remain nameless, in which the CIT team are accused of attempting to 'crucify' Mr. England.

Just checking if my cognitive has been dissonanced at all, but it appeared to me that Lloyde was the one claiming he wasn't at the spot where he was recorded in multiple photographs.

I could understand the 'crucifying' thing if it had been CIT who were trying to put words in the man's mouth, but that clearly isn't the case in the video - if anything, it's the opposite.

I'd be interested to find out if anyone else drew a similar conclusion, for any reason at all.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chek wrote:
An interesting development on another forum which shall remain nameless, in which the CIT team are accused of attempting to 'crucify' Mr. England.

Just checking if my cognitive has been dissonanced at all, but it appeared to me that Lloyde was the one claiming he wasn't at the spot where he was recorded in multiple photographs.

I could understand the 'crucifying' thing if it had been CIT who were trying to put words in the man's mouth, but that clearly isn't the case in the video - if anything, it's the opposite.

I'd be interested to find out if anyone else drew a similar conclusion, for any reason at all.


I clearly thought that Lloyd was telling the truth as he understood it. He was clearly incapable of holding together a complex plot. The guy was obviously deeply confused and in my opinion unlikely to have remembered wrong (due to shock memory - which is usually long lasting and memorable). Therefore my conclusion is that he had been hypnotised either before or afterwards and now suffers from false memory syndrome.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scienceplease wrote:
I clearly thought that Lloyd was telling the truth as he understood it. He was clearly incapable of holding together a complex plot. The guy was obviously deeply confused and in my opinion unlikely to have remembered wrong (due to shock memory - which is usually long lasting and memorable). Therefore my conclusion is that he had been hypnotised either before or afterwards and now suffers from false memory syndrome.


I'm a bit of a Dave McGowan fan myself, but I'm reluctant to ascribe any slightly-too-pat reason at this point to Lloyde's astonishing denial of his multiple recorded whereabouts placing him in what he doggedly insists is the wrong location.

Worth bearing in mind though, particularly in light of the mysterious David Icke promoting 'conspiracy classes' he was attending up to 911.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm a bit of a Dave McGowan fan myself, but I'm reluctant to ascribe any slightly-too-pat reason at this point to Lloyde's astonishing denial of his multiple recorded whereabouts placing him in what he doggedly insists is the wrong location.

Worth bearing in mind though, particularly in light of the mysterious David Icke promoting 'conspiracy classes' he was attending up to 911.


And wife member of FBI.

Sure overly pat. I just don't believe people should accuse Lloyd of being dishonest even though the video established a discrepancy in his story and other physical evidence that doesn't make sense. You could say he was lying. He was either lying or mistaken. Flashbulb events are more likely to be remembered in vivid detail. Therefore, like Sirhan Sirhan, he could have been set up...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And wife member of FBI.

Sure overly pat. I just don't believe people should accuse Lloyd of being dishonest even though the video established a discrepancy in his story and other physical evidence that doesn't make sense. You could say he was lying. He was either lying or mistaken. Flashbulb events are more likely to be remembered in vivid detail. Therefore, like Sirhan Sirhan, he could have been set up...


I'd agree with that, SP. His demeanour in inviting CIT into his home and pretty much allowing full access to his preserved cab doesn't strike me as that of somebody with dishonest intent - at least not obviously.

Nevertheless, there is a huge gulf of difference between where he believes the event took place and where it is documented to have happened in all the photos.

A strange case indeed.

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