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http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/abbott/071124
Traditionalist Catholic bishop: 9/11 inside job
From RenewAmerica Nov. 24:
"Bishop Richard Williamson, seemingly the most outspoken and controversial bishop of the Society of St. Pius X, asserted in a recent talk that the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were committed "to get the American public to accept the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq," according to a news item by Jack Kenny in the Nov. 15, 2007 issue of The Wanderer.
Bishop Williamson, whose talk was held Nov. 4, 2007 in Bedford, Mass., is quoted as saying:
"Without 9-11, it would have been impossible to attack in Afghanistan or Iraq. The forces inside the United States government and driving the United States government absolutely wanted to attack and destroy Iraq. The destruction wrought upon Iraq is unspeakable. And now the same forces want to do the same thing to Iran . . . They may well be plotting another 9-11."
[...]"And a commercial airliner could not have penetrated six of the ten walls that were breached by 'whatever hit the Pentagon,' he said."
What did hit the Pentagon, according to Bishop Williamson?
"It was a missile that hit the Pentagon. It was a missile that could only have been fired by the American military."
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Hooray.
Praise the God, Allah, the Higher Power, No-thing, Nirvana and every other supernatural thing.
I will be sending this link to quite a few of the complacent/treacherous church high-ups who have scandalously ignored this issue.
As a Catholic who has been basically told to get lost by those clerics I have approached all I can say is....
...."about effing time!!!" (forgive me Lord) |
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| kbo234 wrote: | Hooray.
Praise the God, Allah, the Higher Power, No-thing, Nirvana and every other supernatural thing.
I will be sending this link to quite a few of the complacent/treacherous church high-ups who have scandalously ignored this issue.
As a Catholic who has been basically told to get lost by those clerics I have approached all I can say is....
...."about effing time!!!" (forgive me Lord) |
There have been decent Bishops in the past, such as Archbishop Oscar Romero and (Arch?) Bishop Helda Camara. We now have another.
Should Bishop Williamson be assassinated, have an 'accident' or a 'natural' heart attack, I would not expect the Vatican to shed too many tears. When Romero was murdered, only one of the five Bishops in El Salvador went to his funeral.
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Outsider.
Although I didn't put you up to this post, or facilitate it and as I have only a readers interest in it's subject matter, which, I neither agree with or disagree with, on a subject that is very interesting, but possibly not to everyone, could I ask you something please?
| Quote: | | Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:11 pm |
What made you click the submit button at that moment?
Have you ever been in the Masons?
Do you study the Kabbalah?
Have you ever been to a training camp for terrorism?
Have you ever worked for MI5, MI6, CIA, FBI, MOSSAD, Visor Consultants, Fox or Sky News?
Have you ever, knowingly or unknowingly financed, encouraged, facilitated, been in possession of, had an attitude that might encourage someone to, or even blinked without knowing that in the future, or previously, something that you might have done, or someone that you have never met, might, through future generations, facilitated them to later rely on in court, or that would have or could have, did or did not result in terrorism?
Was Jung onto something?
And finally, does this synchronous event prove that there is a God?
Please do not take offence, not that I thought you might, but, you never know and I'm OK if you do, sometimes, but not always, at the same time.
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| Mark Gobell wrote: | Outsider.
Although I didn't put you up to this post, or facilitate it and as I have only a readers interest in it's subject matter, which, I neither agree with or disagree with, on a subject that is very interesting, but possibly not to everyone, could I ask you something please?
| Quote: | | Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:11 pm |
What made you click the submit button at that moment?
Have you ever been in the Masons?
Do you study the Kabbalah?
Have you ever been to a training camp for terrorism?
Have you ever worked for MI5, MI6, CIA, FBI, MOSSAD, Visor Consultants, Fox or Sky News?
Was Jung onto something?
And finally, does this synchronous event prove that there is a God?
Please do not take offence, not that I thought you might, but, you never know and I'm OK if you do, sometimes, but not always, at the same time. |
Answers in order:
Pure chance (but there is no such thing as chance, accident or coincidence, of course);
No, they are my 'bete noire', but I have researched them quite a bit, along with Witchcraft);
No, but I probably picked up a little in my researches above);
No, but I have been to Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran.
No, but the first five have files on me;
Though I have read some of Jung's material, I forget what it was mainly about; I do know I did not find it enlightening;
As a Christian, I don't need proof of a God (but no, of course it doesn't prove there is a God).
No offence taken (I even think Zeitgeist was good, though I side with Justin Martyr (and may end up a similar way!). But well spotted!
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Post of the year so far...
| Quote: | Outsider.
Although I didn't put you up to this post, or facilitate it and as I have only a readers interest in it's subject matter, which, I neither agree with or disagree with, on a subject that is very interesting, but possibly not to everyone, could I ask you something please?
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:11 pm
What made you click the submit button at that moment?
Have you ever been in the Masons?
Do you study the Kabbalah?
Have you ever been to a training camp for terrorism?
Have you ever worked for MI5, MI6, CIA, FBI, MOSSAD, Visor Consultants, Fox or Sky News?
Have you ever, knowingly or unknowingly financed, encouraged, facilitated, been in possession of, had an attitude that might encourage someone to, or even blinked without knowing that in the future, or previously, something that you might have done, or someone that you have never met, might, through future generations, facilitated them to later rely on in court, or that would have or could have, did or did not result in terrorism?
Was Jung onto something?
And finally, does this synchronous event prove that there is a God?
Please do not take offence, not that I thought you might, but, you never know and I'm OK if you do, sometimes, but not always, at the same time. |
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| Mark Gobell wrote: |
Was Jung onto something? |
I believe so. He certainly spoke to my condition, but then in the last years of his life he used to attend the Quaker meeting in Zurich. His writings certainly helped me, at an atheistic stage of my life, to understand what religion was about.
| Mark Gobell wrote: |
And finally, does this synchronous event prove that there is a God?
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No! I don't believe the existence of God can be objectively proved, nor disproved. Carl Gustav Jung would have called this posting at 9.11 a synchronicity. He never to my satisfaction explained how or why such occurrancies happen, but I observe that they do. I suppose we could simply argue that someone at some time was bound to make a post at 9.11. Conspiracy Analyst was just lucky enough to have hit the jackpot.
Have you analysed, Mark, how many other posters, in the history of this website have made a post at precisely 9.11?
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I have only dipped my icklest pinkie into Jung. I started to read a book about synchronicity, many years ago, after I went to the library to find out what Sting was on about in The Police song. So, I'm no expert on his theory.
I'd say that the idea of two apparently unconnected events have informed me too.
The post above was an attempt to connect earlier events of yesterday, alleged to have been synchronous between myself and Otsider, two complete strangers, who had never met or communicated before, with my penchant for self deprecation about my fascination with numbers.
The two unconnected events fitted the scenario perfectly, thus, for me, adding weight to Jung's ideas.
How lovely.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: Catholic bishop: 9-11 was inside job |
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| Quote: | SSPX Catholic bishop: 9-11 was inside job; Calif. priest responds to Minn. priest regarding priestly celibacy
Matt C. Abbott Matt C. Abbott
November 24, 2007
Bishop Richard Williamson, seemingly the most outspoken and controversial bishop of the Society of St. Pius X, asserted in a recent talk that the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were committed "to get the American public to accept the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq," according to a news item by Jack Kenny in the Nov. 15, 2007 issue of The Wanderer.
Bishop Williamson, whose talk was held Nov. 4, 2007 in Bedford, Mass., is quoted as saying:
"Without 9-11, it would have been impossible to attack in Afghanistan or Iraq. The forces inside the United States government and driving the United States government absolutely wanted to attack and destroy Iraq. The destruction wrought upon Iraq is unspeakable. And now the same forces want to do the same thing to Iran . . . They may well be plotting another 9-11."
The news item continues: "Heat from the burning fuel of the planes that flew into the twin towers of the World Trade Center could not have melted the 47 steel columns in each tower, causing them to collapse, he claimed. And a commercial airliner could not have penetrated six of the ten walls that were breached by 'whatever hit the Pentagon,' he said."
What did hit the Pentagon, according to Bishop Williamson?
"It was a missile that hit the Pentagon. It was a missile that could only have been fired by the American military."
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/abbott/071124 |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:45 pm Post subject: U.S. Catholic Bishop says 9/11 was an inside job |
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http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7580
Bishop Richard Williamson, seemingly the most outspoken and controversial bishop of the Society of St. Pius X, asserted in a recent talk that the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks were committed "to get the American public to accept the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq," according to a news item by Jack Kenny in the Nov. 15, 2007 issue of The Wanderer.
Bishop Williamson, whose talk was held Nov. 4, 2007 in Bedford, Mass., is quoted as saying:
"Without 9-11, it would have been impossible to attack in Afghanistan or Iraq. The forces inside the United States government and driving the United States government absolutely wanted to attack and destroy Iraq. The destruction wrought upon Iraq is unspeakable. And now the same forces want to do the same thing to Iran . . . They may well be plotting another 9-11.".............
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| I have been in a hotel in Melbourne all week staying in room 911 .... and I am a Catholic ... the coincidences are too much to bear, might have to pay a visit on Sunday. |
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And were you accused earlier in the day of being in cahoots with the stranger staying in the room next door?
That would be the clincher
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| Is it true when US forces shelled that Baghdad hotel 2003, where non inbedded journos were staying, killing the Al Jaz reporter, he was resident in room... 1441 ? (number of the UN security council resolution, small coincidence if correct I know) Is Mark Gobell online? |
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(Sorry didn't mean to be insensitive)
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| Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: Ex-Catholic Bishop - 9/11 Was an Inside Job |
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original poster's headline
Catholic Church - 9/11 Was An Inside Job
Bishop Richard Williams exposes the truth about 9/11
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Nice one. Shame its not THE catholic church but an ex communicated Bishop according to wikipedia. and also a holocaust denier. Buy hey good shout.
Do we know where and when this was being said?
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Wow, this really is news! 
This man is amazing!
Great find.
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Mr Gosling, I can't figure out whether you're being overly fastidious, power- mad or deliberately discerning in your course of action against specific comments with which you personally agree. Perhaps all of the above. Either way, although my comment is not news, it is justifiably in its right place as a token of appreciation towards the Bishop's stance. I have no idea about his Holocaust viewpoints and am frankly not interested in this.
Here was me thinking that of all places, this forum and its sensitive topics surrounding 9/11 etc would be appreciative of support for prominent figures who speak out against lies, corruption and the NWO. I sometimes wonder if you are the person you say you claim to be. 
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If you think this guy is 'prominent' think again.
You have had a nice rant Mari, but anyone who takes these Protocols Of Zion as fact without hard evidence is either stupid, mad or a shill.
So you can either show us the evidence, or explain which you are.
| Marigold wrote: | Mr Gosling, I can't figure out whether you're being overly fastidious, power- mad or deliberately discerning in your course of action against specific comments with which you personally agree. Perhaps all of the above. Either way, although my comment is not news, it is justifiably in its right place as a token of appreciation towards the Bishop's stance. I have no idea about his Holocaust viewpoints and am frankly not interested in this.
Here was me thinking that of all places, this forum and its sensitive topics surrounding 9/11 etc would be appreciative of support for prominent figures who speak out against lies, corruption and the NWO. I sometimes wonder if you are the person you say you claim to be. |
Interesting how when flummoxed for something to say you criticise me not the historical record. Maybe that's because you don't actually have any facts to back up the Protocols?
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Yes, that's it I've been exposed.  Damn! Why are you so-overbearing Mr Gosling? Relax, it's a forum
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I'm not sure about whether they're a genuine leak or not, it needs more research and time. What do you think?
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There are some people (like me) who are still learning and even confused about all the ins-and-outs of this whole 9/11 thing...never mind the Protocols of Zion. Although now you mention it I am intrigued...so where can I learn more about these protocols?
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| What are the protocols of zion? How come you jumped onto Marigold the way you did, Tony? There must be some history here that other people here aren't aware of. |
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I don't know of any history which would cause Tony to be so kind with his words.
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| fish5133 wrote: | Nice one. Shame its not THE catholic church but an ex communicated Bishop according to wikipedia. and also a holocaust denier. Buy hey good shout.
Do we know where and when this was being said? |
Wikipedia is rapidly becoming the INGSOC Thought Police why believe anything on it (well at least cross reference it)?
Tony if you keep wading into conversation with your own Religious beliefs I'm out of here 
| Quote: | | In 2000 Williamson endorsed the Protocols on an official SSPX website. He wrote: "God put into men's hands the Protocols of the Sages of Sion... if men want to know the truth, but few do." |
I've never heard this before and it certainly isn't part of the thread?
Next you'll be after proof the bible is a direct translation of the word of God?
Nothing posted warrants this come back, maybe you'd like to explain for the unknowing what these Protocols Of Zion actually are??
| Quote: | If you think this guy is 'prominent' think again.
You have had a nice rant Mari, but anyone who takes these Protocols Of Zion as fact without hard evidence is either stupid, mad or a shill.
So you can either show us the evidence, or explain which you are. |
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