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QuitTheirClogs Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: FT Calling for World Government |
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And now for a world government
By Gideon Rachman -- Published: December 8 2008
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html
could the European model go global?
it is increasingly clear that the most difficult issues facing national governments are international in nature: there is global warming, a global financial crisis and a “global war on terror”.
A taste of the ideas doing the rounds in Obama circles is offered by a recent report from the Managing Global Insecurity project, whose small US advisory group includes John Podesta, the man heading Mr Obama’s transition team and Strobe Talbott, the president of the Brookings Institution, from which Ms Rice has just emerged.
The MGI report argues for the creation of a UN high commissioner for counter-terrorist activity, a legally binding climate-change agreement negotiated under the auspices of the UN and the creation of a 50,000-strong UN peacekeeping force. Once countries had pledged troops to this reserve army, the UN would have first call upon them.
the MGI report opts for soothing language. It emphasises the need for American leadership and uses the term, “responsible sovereignty” – when calling for international co-operation – rather than the more radical-sounding phrase favoured in Europe, “shared sovereignty”. It also talks about “global governance” rather than world government.
But some European thinkers think that they recognise what is going on. Jacques Attali, an adviser to President Nicolas Sarkozy of France, argues that: “Global governance is just a euphemism for global government.” As far as he is concerned, some form of global government cannot come too soon. Mr Attali believes that the “core of the international financial crisis is that we have global financial markets and no global rule of law”. _________________ Simon - http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
David Ray Griffin - 9/11: the Myth & the Reality
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-275577066688213413 |
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insidejob Validated Poster
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: Open conspiracy |
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Secrecy used to be their stock in trade, but are the NWO becoming more public? And if so, is this because they are getting ready to implement their plans?
IS one sign of this the publicity given to the Rothschilds. We've had them being interviewed in financial magazines, they have publicly rebuked the Tories, they have appeared on BBC radio and TV supporting the UK bank bail out and they've been on C4's The Assent of Money with a whitewashed history of how Nathan Rothschild made his fortune. This all can't be a mistake or happenstance. |
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: Re: Open conspiracy |
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insidejob wrote: | Secrecy used to be their stock in trade, but are the NWO becoming more public? And if so, is this because they are getting ready to implement their plans?
IS one sign of this the publicity given to the Rothschilds. We've had them being interviewed in financial magazines, they have publicly rebuked the Tories, they have appeared on BBC radio and TV supporting the UK bank bail out and they've been on C4's The Assent of Money with a whitewashed history of how Nathan Rothschild made his fortune. This all can't be a mistake or happenstance. |
From a faith perspective a pseudo religous figure will also come into the picture. Middle eastern origin or Rome (7 hilled city of Revelation) _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12 |
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acrobat74 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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acrobat74 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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http://blogs.ft.com/rachmanblog/2008/12/covered-in-internet-slime
Gideon Rachman wrote: |
Covered in internet slime
December 10, 2008
I knew that there was something odd going on, when I woke up at 7am on Tuesday and found that over 200 e-mails had arrived in the seven hours that I had been in bed. It turned out that my article on world government had been “Drudged” - ie put on the much-read Drudge Report and this had set off a torrent of e-mail traffic.
The pace of comments - and their vituperative tone - persuaded the blog-masters here to shut down the comments section on that article pretty quickly. But this had the unfortunate effect of encouraging people to e-mail me directly. The following from Tommy101d@aol.com is fairly typical:
“Just wanted to let you know that you’re never gonna get your New World Order.
People are waking up everyday to what’s really going on ….Good luck gettin’ the guns you traitor piece of trash!!”
If you get two e-mails like that it can be faintly unsettling. If you get two hundred, however, you begin to get used to it. That said, the whole experience has given me an insight into the mindset of the gun-toting, bible-bashing, nationalistic bit of the United States. Here are my conclusions.
1) There is an unbelievable amount of anger and hatred out there - directed at everything from the UN to big business to Barack Obama. These people can read, but they cannot think.
2) The “End of Days” crowd is very strong. I would say that about a third of the e-mails I got referred me to the Book of Revelations - in which, apparently, it is all foretold. In an idle moment, I e-mailed one of my correspondents back and said that I have never read Revelations, since I am an athiest. Big mistake.
3) There are a lot of people who believe not only that global warming is a hoax - but that it is actually a conspiracy. The fact that the most influential reports on climate change have been produced by an intergovernmental panel (IPCC) - sponsored by the UN - fuels this theory. The idea is that the UN is perpetuating a climate-change hoax, to provide an excuse to impose a world government on America. I’m all part of it apparently.
4) I can see what Obama means by referring to “bitter” people clinging to guns and religion. And clinging is the word. Several people informed me that I would only remove their guns “from my cold, dead hands.”
But something positive has also come out of this experience. If the newspaper industry really goes down the pan, I now have a business plan. I will claim to be a former member of the Bilderberg/Illuminati/Council on Foreign Relations/UN/Zionist establishment and write a book revealing the inside story of a plot to form a world government. It will sell millions. |
_________________ Summary of 9/11 scepticism: http://tinyurl.com/27ngaw6 and www.911summary.com
Off the TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4szU19bQVE
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: FT calls for World Government |
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http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html?nc lick_check=1
Quote: | First, it is increasingly clear that the most difficult issues facing national governments are international in nature: there is global warming, a global financial crisis and a “global war on terror”.
Second, it could be done. The transport and communications revolutions have shrunk the world so that, as Geoffrey Blainey, an eminent Australian historian, has written: “For the first time in human history, world government of some sort is now possible.” Mr Blainey foresees an attempt to form a world government at some point in the next two centuries, which is an unusually long time horizon for the average newspaper column.
But – the third point – a change in the political atmosphere suggests that “global governance” could come much sooner than that. The financial crisis and climate change are pushing national governments towards global solutions, even in countries such as China and the US that are traditionally fierce guardians of national sovereignty. |
E-mail short but sweet sent:
Wahoo I can't wait Global Slavery _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Haha
Corporate Newspaper Columnist Backpedals on World Government Story
http://www.infowars.com/?p=6481
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, December 11, 2008
Financial Times columnist Gideon Rachman complains that he has been "covered in internet slime" after receiving hundreds of hostile e-mails in response to his article in which he all but called for a dictatorial global government to be installed to fight terrorism, climate change and solve the financial crisis.
Self-satisfied with his perch on the wannabe-elitist media peanut gallery, puking verbal diarrhea from the gravy train of sophistic phony intellectualism, Rachman's was aghast that the rabble-rousers and "gun-toting bible bashers" as he disdainfully referred to them dared challenge his globalist world view.
"These people can read, but they cannot think.," sneers Rachman, as he registers his contempt for those "Who believe not only that global warming is a hoax - but that it is actually a conspiracy."
No matter that the IPCC's chief source for its scientific data was recently caught faking temperature data in claiming that data records from the naturally warmer month of September represented those from October.
No matter that 2008 is the coldest year of the decade, that the Arctic ice sheet has expanded by an area the size of Germany since summer 2007, and that record low temperatures have hit areas all over America.
No matter that over 650 scientists have put their names to a US Senate Minority report that challenges the contention of the UN's International Panel on Climate Change that there is a scientific "consensus" on the causes of global warming.
Forget about all that, to even question the religious orthodoxy of global warming makes one intellectually inferior, Rachman implies.
Despite calling his article, 'And now for world government,' Rachman then has the temerity to argue that he was not promoting the idea of a one world government, but merely "debating" the topic.
Throughout Rachman's article he employs the intellectual tactic of making it seem that global government is inevitable as a means of advocating its necessity.
Rachman writes that there is, "An opportunity and a means to make serious steps towards a world government," that the idea is "plausible," makes an argument that the financial crisis, terrorism and global warming create a pretext for it, and he quotes others who have passionately called for it. Near the end of the article he bemoans that fact that the push for a world government will be a slow process due to massive opposition against it.
How can this represent anything other than advocacy for the implementation of global government? If this article was a "debate" surrounding the question of whether or not global government should be set up, as Rachman claims, then he would have included at least some of the many arguments against global government, but how many did he cite? Zero. That's not a "debate", that's coming down on one side of an issue. For Rachman to claim that his article was "a dispassionate discussion of the possibility" of global government is completely dishonest.
This smacks of the classic hand-in-the-cookie jar moment. Far from being covered in slime as he protests, the spotlight has been turned on Rachman and to everyone's horror, he is already a slimeball of the highest order. Rachman's retort is a desperate effort to turn the light off again before more people take a look - he obviously doesn't like the fact that his distasteful and abhorrent opinions are being shown for what they are.
Rachman's article is all about the merits and necessity of global government and then at the end he brazenly adds the caveat that it will only be a success if it is anti-democratic in nature, ie dictatorial.
Rachman's attempt to backtrack and protest his innocence in claiming the article was anything but a PR piece for global government may fool the naive, but when we have dozens and dozens of highly influential figures throughout the decades calling for the same thing, the seriousness of the issue becomes clear.
Global government is by no means a new phenomenon proposed as a "solution" to current problems, it is the ultimate goal for a long-standing agenda that seeks to crush national sovereignty and freedom and replace it with a tyrannical new world order. That is not some kind of hare-brained conspiracy theory as Rachman would have it, it is a privately and publicly stated mission of the global elite.
Strobe Talbot, current Obama advisor and President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, wasn't loosely "debating" the subject of one world government when in 1992 he told Time Magazine, "In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
Neither was Dr. Henry Kissinger absently chit-chatting when he told a Bilderberg conference in 1991, "Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
Likewise, international financier James Warburg was deadly serious when he told a Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1950, "We shall have a world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest."
The march towards a centralized global government is not a contemporary idea, it is a coordinated movement firmly entrenched in history.
At the end of his riposte, Rachman cracks a lame joke about pretending to be a member of the "Bilderberg/Illuminati/Council on Foreign Relations/UN/Zionist establishment" to make millions from tell-all books.
Deliciously ironic it is therefore that as a matter of routine, Rachman's colleague Martin Wolf, the Financial Times' associate editor and chief economics commentator, attends the Bilderberg Group meeting every year and hob-knobs with hundreds of the world's power elite, and then routinely fails to report on it in the knowledge that if he did he'd be shunned by the very establishment that Rachman makes light of.
After all, 200+ global powerbrokers meeting in secret to discuss the future course of the planet doesn't seem like a very interesting story now does it?
Perhaps Rachman should ask Wolf for an invite to Bilderberg 2009, and then he could stop hoping to be a member of the global elite and actually become one. With disgusting, anti-democratic and elitist opinions like his, I'm sure Bilderberg will welcome Rachman with open arms. _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
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Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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33º Freemason admits sworn ambition of elite to unite the world
http://www.masonicforum.ro/en/nr16/iancu.html
Excerpt:
"The fraternal love must work indeed and win. I think this is our message, especially that we are now on the verge of unifying—in the profane field of world union—, at the point of restoring and installing the new order of the Temple of Solomon. For this we all swore, this is our ambition . . . . Masonry should be what it was before, the promoter of this union on the world plane. We are convinced that Masonry, the Scottish Rite, represents the elite that leads and will lead the mankind towards harmony and peace and towards love, which is above all.
. . . [P]lease consider seriously the fact that from now on a new stage begins, a stage in which we have to dedicate ourselves to work and prove that we are indeed an elite and we deserve the sacred mission we were called at."
—CONSTANTIN IANCU, 33º
Sovereign Grand Commander,
Supreme Council of AASR [Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite] from Romania _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
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QuitTheirClogs Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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WEF -- Alcoa, Shell Want Climate Plan, Global Carbon Limits
June 20 (Bloomberg) -- Alcoa Inc., Royal Dutch Shell Plc and 97 other companies are urging world leaders to devise a plan for fighting global warming by setting greenhouse-gas targets for all nations and creating an international carbon market.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSGm18AJaMkk
A new climate-change treaty is needed with incentives to capture and store carbon dioxide and protect forests, the 99 companies said in a statement prepared by the World Economic Forum, a Geneva-based business coalition.
...an extra $45 trillion must be invested in clean-air technologies, the Paris-based International Energy Agency said this month. The business group said it wants government guidance on how new climate policies may affect investment decisions.
...Willie Walsh, chief executive officer of London- based British Airways Plc ... is one of 16 corporate leaders who developed the proposals.
The group, representing 10 percent of the market value of the world's listed companies ...
“We see enormous opportunity here for the global financial industry,” Caio Koch-Weser, vice chairman of Frankfurt-based Deutsche Bank AG, Germany's biggest bank, said on the conference call. An emissions treaty enforced beyond 2012 might produce “the makings of the global carbon market, with carbon almost as a currency 10 years from now.'” _________________ Simon - http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/
David Ray Griffin - 9/11: the Myth & the Reality
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Thermate911 Angel - now passed away
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | A new climate-change treaty is needed with incentives to capture and store carbon dioxide and protect forests |
That's strange - isn't that what forests do? The ones still extant, that is, no thanks to the above-unnamed corporations?
Meanwhile, in the Amazon basin:
http://www.mongabay.com/brazil.html
wherein:-
Quote: | Historically a large portion of deforestation in Brazil can be attributed to land clearing for pastureland by commercial and speculative interests, misguided government policies, inappropriate World Bank projects, and commercial exploitation of forest resources. |
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DeutscherFatCat wrote: | We see enormous opportunity here for the global financial industry |
So long as we can encourage the majority not to breathe, perhaps? _________________ "We will lead every revolution against us!" - attrib: Theodor Herzl
"Timely Demise to All Oppressors - at their Convenience!" - 'Interesting Times', Terry Pratchett |
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Why on earth isn't the FT calling for the return of capital punishment? After all, a financial 'collapse' should be a dire threat to their readers? Or not, as the case may (and would apear) to be. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:53 am Post subject: |
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QuitTheirClogs wrote: | The Complete Idiot's Guide to the New World Order
I just clicked on google video and this was the number one hot video. Is that encouraging or not? I can’t quite decide. |
I suppose, seeing aswe're encouraged by the MSM to believe that entirely futile and facile clips are the main interest, this would be a "good thing" _________________ http://www.exopolitics-leeds.co.uk/introduction |
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^^double post lol _________________ Think for yourself....Question Authority |
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