Dec08 Cast Lead: Israel Christmas terror blitzkrieg in Gaza

[Newspeak International]

[Moon-in-Taurus]

They've chosen the Christmas holiday for this. People have had enough bad news, they wont want to face up to it, and the media is presenting Israel's behaviour as though it is reasonable.

[Moon-in-Taurus]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PPk_E_2h87o

This is horrifying. Mass murder.

[Newspeak International]

Yes of course it's mass murder Moon in Taurus (that's an odd name isn't it?)

It's so insidious they don't even have to prove the rocket attacks,they just can say they occurred

[kbo234]

Is this how Israel hope to initiate a long-desired military confrontation with Iran?.......who have, by the way, sent a boat full of food and medical supplies to break the siege of Gaza.

These murderous Israeli fiends will, one way or another, get what they want......

.........a gradual escalation in violence that will draw in Iran, resulting in further escalation, American involvement etc., etc.

This could be the real start of World War Three.

These Satanic b*stards will be the death of us all........and don't forget.......we are supporting these murderers by the imposition of EU/UK economic sanctions against the Gazans!

What kind of degenerates are WE to do such a thing?

[illeagalhunter]

The spineless UN will do & say nothing, how many resolutions have they ignored?

[blackbear]

Alice the Kurious

The zionist occupation forces continued to bomb Gaza overnight. There are now 240 people dead and more than 800 wounded. Due to the barbaric zionist siege, the hospitals are severely under-equipped -- there are corpses on the floor for lack of hospital beds, and many essential medicines are unavailable.

It is a grave mistake to view this latest massacre as a separate event, as the zionazis present it. It is part of a long chain of massacres and sadistic genocidal policies that stretches back to before the establishment of the zionazi state itself, designed to eradicate the Palestinian people from the face of the earth. This relentless genocide is manifested in every way possible, from the zionazi slogan "a land without a people for a people without a land," to the propaganda that defines the rightful, legal inhabitants of Palestine as 'terrorists' by the terrorist state, to the shooting and poison-gassing of school-children, to the apartheid laws that deny the very humanity of non-Jews in the Jewish State.

Hamas is the legal, democratically-elected government of the Palestinian people, and represents the legitimate grassroots resistance against the illegal occupation of the zionazi invaders, after the PLO was effectively eradicated and its leader poisoned because he refused to trade away the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people.

The real reason that the zionazis are bombing Gaza is the same reason they massacred the people of Deir Yassin, and the same reason they slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Lebanon in their repeated invasions. It's the same reason they poisoned wells near Arab villages in the late 1940s, and the reason they uproot and destroy olive groves and other food crops.

Behind the poisonous smokescreen of zionazi propaganda, zionism is laid bare: it is a movement based on theft and genocide, and nothing else. There is nothing legitimate about zionism. Nothing. From their moronic lies about "a land without a people for a people without a land", to their idiotic made-up "right" of "return", to the FACT that the continued existence of the zionist state is literally impossible without an endless series of war crimes and crimes against humanity, everything about this criminal, Judeo-supremacist movement testifies to its true nature.

Though zionism's direct victims are bleeding on the ground in Palestine right now, this is not just a Palestinian war of survival and liberation, but an issue that affects the citizens of every country whose 'leaders' robotically parrot the zionist lies and serve their zionist masters at the expense of the people they claim to represent, the United States and the United Kingdom above all. It's an issue that is vitally important to those of us who understand that our system of international law and human rights conventions represents one of the few hopes for humanity to free itself from the savagery and injustice and unbearable waste that have blighted its history. This system has been relentlessly targeted by the zionazis no less than the existence of the Palestinian people, and that is something that is of vital concern for every one of us, whether we understand that or not.

The struggle for the human and legal rights of the Palestinians is the struggle for our own rights -- a RIGHT is just that: not a privilege, not a luxury reserved for those of a certain "race" or ethnicity, but a basic, inalienable function of one's identity as a human being. Every time we allow ourselves to be seduced by immoral arguments and cynical lies that insult our intelligence, every time we harden our heart to the desperate pleas of our fellow human beings, we lose part of our soul, and abdicate our own membership in the human race. The sickness that plagues our species wears many masks and calls itself by many names: but it can always be recognized by the stench of blood that accompanies it wherever it goes. With our money, with our ignorance and above all with our silence, we empower the monster that feasts on the flesh of our brothers and sisters, of our children. Don't harden your heart, don't close your eyes and above all, never remain silent in the face of evil and injustice: the life you save could very well be your own.

On edit: the bloody toll continues to rise, minute by minute. There are now 275 confirmed dead and more than 800 wounded, 180 in critical condition. There is an unknown number of bodies buried under the rubble.

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=22028&start=15

[TonyGosling]

Thousands take to the streets to protest Israel
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/12/28/news/ML-Mideast-Israel-Pales tinians.php

Good point kbo!
Have you heard OUR sanctions mentioned on any news reports?
Somebody needs to take out the Tel-Aviv Mafia in February.

UN impotent due to Zio/Masonic infiltration.

This has got to be the sickest bit of electioneering ever.

But of course there is a wider objective here, to step World War Three up a level.

As per Myron Fagan's two-and-a-half-hour 1963 talk?
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/30794

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFB_eJni2QU

[fish5133]

Judges 2:11
And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD,
:
Judges 3:7
And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD,

Judges 3:12
And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD

Judges 4:1
And the children of Israel again did evil in the sight of the LORD, .

Judges 6:1
And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD:

Judges 10:6
And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD,

Judges 13:1
And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD;

[Newspeak International]

[Linda]

http://www.angrybritain.com/about.html

Why are we bothering?

[Linda]

http://www.uruknet.de/?s1=1&p=49933&s2=27

In pictures: Gaza Massacre


December 27, 2008

After announcements that a decision whether to increase the military attack on the Gaza Strip would be made tomorrow, Sunday, Israeli forces instead launched a major operation today.

The Israelis killed 150 Palestinians with more expected to die. The Israeli government says it is just the beginning.


Hamas is a Creation of Mossad
by Hassane Zerouky

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ZER403A.html

[Newspeak International]

Spookily enough I am listening to Nolan now,fortunately we know the agenda Linda, so don't let these people get you down.

Keep exposing the real organised agenda

[Newspeak International]

[Changeling9au]

I do hope that at least some of you are interested in learning about/discussing the Geopolitricks which is causing the hideous symptoms currently being witnessed in Gaza (and Israel, where civilians have been tolerating regular rocket attacks from the territories where the IDF ethnically cleansed 8000 Jews from in late 2005....), rather than simply blaming Israel and Zionism.
Recently, I produced a 2 part video on Youtube challenging anti-zionists to a public debate. I covered a lot of issues, but still only scratched the surface of the complexities of the Globalist Criminal Syndicate's Arab-Israeli project. I've been researching this issue(s) for years - it really is that complicated! Do please consult the reams of documentation I provide which go with the videos.

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This is a response to "Question for Zionsts[SIC]"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=IV-QQ4yJlFU
by Youtuber Ryantineocons - http://uk.youtube.com/user/Ryantineocons

Part1/2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXfGq8fqtVg
Part2/2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKbt3ek6-FE

"Is it Antisemitic to Criticize Israel? Is Israel an 'Apartheid State'?"
(Be sure to read what Martin Luther King had to say about Israel, some 2 weeks before his murder)
http://emperors-clothes.com/letters/land.htm

"What is a genocide, to the social scientist? ( Written for the general public )"
http://www.hirhome.com/genocide.htm

"The Jews of Gaza: Demonization vs. Reality"
http://emperors-clothes.com/israel/kisufim.htm

"Amona Forum for Justice"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LOvtdVujkG8

"THE KAPOS OF NAZI ISRAEL"
Israeli investigative journalist Barry Chamish *blasts* the Israeli government and the Shin Bet-managed "leaders" of Yesha Council.
http://www.redmoonrising.com/chamish/Aug05.htm#August%2020

http://www.barrychamish.com/
http://www.thebarrychamishwebsite.com/articles.htm

CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) psuedo-zionist fraud, Daniel Pipes, attacks Barry Chamish
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2004/02/barry-chamish-holocaust-revisi onist.html

"What is the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)?"
http://www.hirhome.com/cfr.htm

"Egypt: The Elephant in the Living Room of the Gaza 'Disengagement' "
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/eleph1.htm

"Confessions of a Once-Hopeful Leftist, or How ‘Disengagement’ Reveals the True Character of the Proposed Arab State in the West Bank and Gaza"
http://emperors-clothes.com/israel/hope.htm

"BBC Interview with Hussam Abdo, Arab Suicide Bomber, Age 15, Who Didn't Push the Button..."
http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/abdo.htm

"Pictures of a Suicide Terrorist, Age 15, Who Didn't Push the button..., March 24, 2004"
http://emperor.vwh.net/abdo/abdopics.htm

"Understanding the Palestinian Movement" - a detailed exposé, including essential information on Haj Amin Al Husseini
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/pal_mov.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/pal_mov2.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/pal_mov3.htm
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/pal_mov4.htm

"The modern "Protocols of Zion" How the mass media now promotes the same lies that caused the death of more than 5 million Jews in WWII"
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/mprot1.htm
through to "Why do people say that ‘the Jews’ control the media? They don’t."
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/mprot7.htm

"The Crux of WORLD HISTORY"
An online book which goes into great detail about the history of antisemitism, and WHY it has been with us for over 2000 years.
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/cruxcontents.htm

"Is the US an ally of Israel? A chronological look at the evidence"
http://www.hirhome.com/israel/hirally.htm

Pierre Rehov's films
http://www.pierrerehov.com/

"America Rejects Israel Establishment 1948"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cjWDyY2DarU

"Israel Liberation Week" - see what REAL Zionists are saying
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7jGUW8i4aRo

Zionist Freedom Alliance (ZFA)
http://www.zfa.org.il/

http://zionistsforronpaul.blogspot.com/

"Palestine & Palestinians Part 142" - a "must view" for Palestine solidarity activists
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ciUb9wSkbnE

To understand the Geopolitricks of The Syndicate's policies on Iran/Iraq, consult the articles available via the following links
http://www.hirhome.com/iraniraq/guide-iraniraq.htm
http://emperors-clothes.com/iraq-iran.htm

"Protestant Churches pay for Israel's occupation"
http://www.rys2sense.com/anti-neocons/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1830&p=1171 4
http://www.adl.org/main_Israel/Divestment_02_17_05.htm?Multi_page_sect ions=sHeading_2
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article527244.ece
http://www.methodist.org.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=news.newsDetail&newsi d=140 [link is currently dead].
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/methodists.vote.for.new.guidelin es.on.ethical.investment.in.israel.and.palestine/6740.htm
http://www.umc.org/site/c.gjJTJbMUIuE/b.886089/k.A105/Two_United_Metho dist_gatherings_urge_selective_divestment_from_Israel.htm

"Barry Chamish - Destruction of Israel"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ssxFqXdQfJk

"Israel in Trouble: by Barry Chamish"
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=wBt-LxzXllA&feature=related

Good sites for DOCUMENTED info on the 9/11 attacks - bypass the stoopid "conspiracy sites".
http://911research.wtc7.net/

"Architects and engineers for 9/11 truth"
http://www.ae911truth.org/
===========================================

It's a lot of information, but well worth the time to study for those wishing to get closer to the truths concealed by the counter-intelligence Establishments who have been infecting the Truth/Antiwar/etc. movements with antizionism. Having once been an antizionist for over 10 years, I now have a very good idea how their propaganda works.

[Changeling9au]

For some reason, the Youtube vids didn't embed, as I'd hoped.

Part1:
Link


Part2:
Link

[kbo234]

Gilad Atzmon - Eine Kleine Nacht Murder: How Israeli Leaders Kill for their People's Votes

In order to grasp the latest devastating murderous Israeli expedition in Gaza one must deeply comprehend the Israeli identity and its inherent hatred towards anyone who fails to be Jewish and a hatred against Arabs in particular. This hatred is imbued in the Israeli curriculum, it is preached by political leaders and implied by their acts, it is conveyed by cultural figures, even within the so-called ‘Israeli Left’.



I grew up in Israel in the 1970’s people of my generation are nowadays the leaders of the Israeli army, politics, economy, academia and the arts. We were trained to believe that ‘a good Arab is a dead one’. A few weeks before I joined the IDF in the early 1980’s, General Rafael Eitan, the Chief of Staff at the time announced that the “Arabs were stoned cockroaches in a bottle”. He got away with it, he also got away with the murder of many thousands of Lebanese civilians in the 1st Lebanon war. In a word, Israelis manage to get away with murder.



Luckily enough, and for reasons that are still far beyond my comprehension, at a certain stage I woke up out of that Hebraic lethal dream. At one point I left the Jewish state, I evaded the Jewish hate mongering, I had become an opponent of the Jewish state and any other form of Jewish politics. However, I am utterly convinced that it is my primary duty to inform every being that is willing to listen about that which are we up against.



As much as Zionism was there to transform Jews, and by “giving them a State of their own” make them like any other people, it failed miserably. The Israeli barbarism as we have seen this week and too many times before is far beyond bestiality. It is killing for the sake of killing. And it is indiscriminate.



Not many people in the west are aware of the devastating fact that killing Arabs and Palestinians in particular is a very effective Israeli political recipe. The Israelis are indeed confused people. As much as they insist upon seeing themselves as a ‘Shalom seeking’[1][1] nation, they also love to be led by politicians with an astonishing record of unlawful murderous activity. Whether it was Sharon, Rabin, Begin, Shamir or Ben Gurion, Israelis love their ‘democratically elected leaders’ to be belligerent hawks with their hands dripping with blood and backed by a solid record of crimes against humanity.



We are weeks before an election in Israel and as it seems, both Kadima PM candidate Foreign minister Tzipi Livni and Labour PM candidate Defence minister Ehud Barak, are trailing well behind Likud PM candidate the notorious Hawk Benjamin (Bibi) Netanyahu. Livni and Barak need their little war. They must prove to the Israelis that they know how to engage in mass slaughter.



Both Livni and Barak have to provide the Israeli voter with some real exhibition of devastating carnage, so the Israelis can trust their leadership. This is their only chance against Netanyahu. Seemingly, Livni and Barak are throwing tons of bombs on Palestinian civilians, schools and hospitals because this is exactly what the Israelis want to see.



Unfortunately, Israelis are not known for mercy and grace. Instead they are appeased by retaliation and vengeance, they are cheered by their own limitless brutality. When an Ex-Israeli Air Force Chief Commander Dan Halutz was asked how it feels to drop a bomb on a highly populated neighbourhood in Gaza, his answer was short and precise. ‘It feels like a light bump on the right wing’. Dan Halutz’s cold deadly manner was enough to secure his promotion into the IDF Chief of Staff post shortly thereafter. It was General Halutz who led the Israeli army into the second Lebanon war, it was this man who perpetrated the destruction of Lebanese infrastructure and large parts of Beirut.



Seemingly, in Israeli politics, Arab blood is translated into votes. It would obviously be very reasonable to charge Livni, Barak and the current IDF Chief of Staff Ashkenazi with first-degree murder, crimes against humanity and the obvious breach of the Geneva Convention. But it would be far more intelligible to take into account that Israel is a ‘democracy’. Livni, Barak and Ashkenazi are giving the Israeli people that which they want: it is called Arab blood and it must come in vast quantity. This repetitive murderous practice, conducted by Israeli politicians reflects on the Israeli people as a whole rather than just a few politicians and generals. We are dealing here with a barbarian society that is politically driven by bloodthirstiness and lethal inclinations. There should be no mistake, there is no room for these people amongst nations.



Why the Israeli are people so remote from any notion of humanism is a big question. The generous and naïve humanists amongst us may argue that the Shoah left a big scar in the Israeli soul. This may explain why Israelis are obsessively cultivating that very memory with the support of their Diaspora brothers and sisters. The Israelis say ‘never again’ and what they mean is that Auschwitz should never reoccur, this somehow allows them to punish the Palestinian for the crimes committed by the Nazis. The realistic amongst us do not buy this argument anymore. They start now to admit that it is more than possible that the Israelis are so incredibly brutal just because this is how they are. It goes far beyond rationality or pseudo-analytical assumptions. They say, ‘this is what the Israelis are and there is not much we can do about it anymore’. The realistic amongst us come to admit that killing is how the Israelis interpret the meaning of being Jewish. Gravely, many of us come to admit that there is no alternative humanist secular Jewish value system to replace the Hebraic murderous one. The Jewish state is there to prove that Jewish national autonomy is an inhuman concept.



I grew up in post-1967 Israel. I was raised in the wake of the Israeli mythical victory, we were trained to worship the “Israeli who shoots from the hip” the platoon commando who shoots his Uzi automatic rifle in the direction of the Arabs and manages to win against four armies in just six days.



It may have taken me two decades too long to understand that the Israeli who ‘shoots from the hip’, was actually the master of indiscriminate killing. Barak was one of those 1967 heroes, he was a master indiscriminate killer. Apparently, the Israeli cabinet has just approved his plan for the biggest raid on Gaza since 1967. Livni is more or less my age, as we read the news, she internalised the message. She is now accumulating the necessary credentials as an indiscriminate murderer. Both Barak and Livni are taking Israel and Palestine into an election campaign of slaughter. Arab and Palestinian blood is the fuel of Israeli politics.



I may just suggest to Livni and Barak that it may not help them in the polls. Netanyahu is a genuine authentic hawk. He doesn’t have to pretend to be a murderer, and as much as I despise him, he has yet to take Israel into a war. He probably understands better than them what power of deterrence is all about.



http://palestinethinktank.com/2008/12/29/gilad-atzmon-eine-kleine-nach t-murder-how-israeli-leaders-kill-for-their-peoples-votes/[/b]

[TonyGosling]

December 29, 2008 'Israeli air strikes represent massive violations of international law', by Professor Richard Falk, United Nations Special Investigator for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories
The Israeli air strikes on the Gaza Strip represent severe and massive violations of international humanitarian law as defined in the Geneva Convention, both in regard to the obligations of an occupying power and in the requirements of the laws of war.

Those violations include:

Collective punishment – the entire 1.5 million people who live in the crowded Gaza Strip are being punished for the actions of a few militants.

Targeting civilians – the air strikes were aimed at civilian areas in one of the most crowded stretches of land in the world, certainly the most densely populated area of the Middle East.

Disproportionate military response – the air strikes have not only destroyed every police and security office of Gaza's elected government, but have killed and injured hundreds of civilians; at least one strike reportedly hit groups of students attempting to find transportation home from the university.

Earlier Israeli actions, specifically the complete sealing off of entry and exit to and from the Gaza Strip, have led to severe shortages of medicine and fuel (as well as food), resulting in the inability of ambulances to respond to the injured, the inability of hospitals to adequately provide medicine or necessary equipment for the injured, and the inability of Gaza's besieged doctors and other medical workers to sufficiently treat the victims.

Certainly the rocket attacks against civilian targets in Israel are unlawful. But that illegality does not give Israel any right, neither as the occupying power nor as a sovereign state, to violate international humanitarian law and commit war crimes or crimes against humanity in its response. I note that Israel's escalating military assaults have not made Israeli civilians safer; on the contrary, the one Israeli killed today after the upsurge of Israeli violence is the first in over a year.

Israel has also ignored recent Hamas' diplomatic initiatives to re-establish the truce or ceasefire since its expiry on December26.

The Israeli air strikes today, and the catastrophic human toll that they have caused, challenge those countries that have been and remain complicit, either directly or indirectly, in Israel's violations of international law. That complicity includes those countries knowingly providing the military equipment including warplanes and missiles used in these illegal attacks, as well as those countries which have supported and participated in the siege of Gaza, which itself has caused a humanitarian catastrophe.

I remind all member states of the United Nations that the UN continues to be bound to an independent obligation to protect any civilian population facing massive violations of international humanitarian law – regardless of which country may be responsible for those violations. I call on all member states, as well as officials and every relevant organ of the United Nations system, to move on an emergency basis not only to condemn Israel's serious violations, but to develop new approaches to providing real protection for the Palestinian people.

Written by Professor Richard Falk, United Nations Special Investigator for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories

http://www.russiatoday.com/news/news/35373

Israel to mount emergency international PR effort in wake of Gaza campaign
by Barak Ravid
Global Research, December 27, 2008
Haaretz
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Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni on Saturday instructed the Foreign Ministry to take emergency measures to adapt Israel's international public relations to the ongoing escalation in the Gaza Strip.
Livni instructed senior ministry officials to open an aggressive and diplomatic international public relations campaign, in order to gain greater international support for Israel Defense Forces operations in the Gaza Strip.
Israel launched Saturday morning the start of a massive offensive against Qassam rocket and mortar fire on its southern communities, targeting dozens of buildings belonging to the ruling Hamas militant group.
Palestinian medical sources said that at least 230 people had been killed in the strikes, which began at around 11:30 A.M.
Livni instructed ministry officials currently on vacation in Israel to return immediately to their posts abroad, and to immediately mount public relations campaigns in their station countries, focusing on local media and public officials.
In addition, Israeli officials stationed abroad have been put on high alert.
Livni will hold a series of talks with foreign officials in the coming days, in which she will attempt to explain the rationale for the expanded IDF operations in the Gaza Strip.
The Foreign Ministry is also looking to recruit speakers of foreign languages, in particular Arabic, Italian, Spanish, and German, in order to expand Israel's public relations campaign with the representatives of foreign media outlets currently in Israel..............
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11512

[TonyGosling]

Zionism is complete bs. I have just as much right to claim the Celtic lake sites in Switzerland that were holy to my vague and supposed ancestors.

It is high time that thinking Europeans had the courage of their convictions and completely rejected the notion of the racist and mystic Israeli state. There can and should be no two state solution. What is needed is a single state, blind to ethnicity or religion, on the lands of Israel/Palestine. That is the only path that has any hope of leading to peace.

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2008/12/the_continuing_1.html

[paul wright]

[conspiracy analyst]

http://www.gazatoday.blogspot.com/

[Changeling9au]

Reasonably unbiased readers will note that none of the posts following mine above refute a single fact highlighted in my videos, for which I've provided an abundance of evidence and documentation.

It is more than a small concern, when those who see themselves as part of a Truth Movement (admittedly, that's an assumption - I'm assuming the above posters see themselves as "Truthers") respond to evidence based analysis by ignoring it, and instead posting the opinions of:

1) An antisemitic Jew whose wild assertions are so frankly ridiculous that even many antizionists shun him.
2) A bureaucrat from the UN who has (and this is just what I found in a few minutes of internet research):
a) Defended "terrorist peace activists" - that is, people who were most likely counter-intelligence infiltrators of the peace movement, or their stooges.
b) Defended the Ayatollah Khomeini - an Islamist who hijacked the Iranian revolution and triggered the war with Iraq, all with the aid of the US (and British) Establishments.
c) Defended the US/EU/NATO destruction of Yugoslavia, and spread lies about the Serbs.
3) A (former?) member of the British foreign policy Establishment.
4) In the case of Paul Wright, his own opinions.
There is also mixed in with all this, a red herring article from Haaretz.

It should go without saying that all these people are entitled to their opinions and should be free to make their assertions - as woefully factually and logically flawed as they are. The key issue to me here, is that most of the Truth Movement seems to be taking the unreferenced assertions and opinions of Establishment-esque figures such as these, and taking them as factual simply because they confirm anti-zionist biases.

Time doesn't permit me to deal with every fallacious claim made - I'll deal with some of them, and if anyone wants me to deal with any other claims they should feel free to ask.

==============Gilad Atzmon================

[cem]

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/12/29/senior-israeli-official s-the-goal-of-the-operation-is-to-topple-hamas/


Senior Israeli officials: The goal of the operation is to topple Hamas

[blackbear]

Khalid Amayreh

MY BRIEF RESPONSE TO ZIONIST DISINFORMATION

Zionist Hasbara operatives have been claiming that the current Israeli genocidal onslaught in Gaza is a “war against Hamas” and that it was only necessitated by the firing of Palestinian rockets on Israel.

This is a big lie. Read the following:

“Hamas had repeatedly said it was willing and ready to stop “all” firing of projectiles from Gaza if only Israel would lift the deadly blockade. And Israel repeatedly said “No.”

Israel has been saying ad nauseam that it ended its occupation of Gaza. Well, why does Israel then retain its control of Gaza skies, Gaza shores, Gaza sea, Gaza border crossings (even with Egypt). Why does Israel retain its control of Gaza life? Why?

Hence, the issue of firing “rockets” on Israel (they are homemade projectiles that make more noise than damage), should be viewed largely as a red herring.

Effectively, Israel has been giving Palestinians in Gaza either of two choices, to die of starvation as a result of the blockade or be exterminated by the Israeli war machine.

Indeed, these so-called “rockets” are nothing more than a desperate outcry for justice, for lifting the deadly blockade. Gaza has simply been reduced to a modern-day Auschwitz. The only difference is that Jews are now playing the role of the SS.

Hamas did meticulously observe a six-month ceasefire, despite the persistence of the Nazi-like blockade which very much resembled the Ghetto Warsaw siege in 1942-43. However, Israel on 13 November, Israel carried out a foray into Gaza, killing 6 people.

More to the point, Israel killed 49 Palestinians during the ceasefire. Not a single Israeli was killed.

Besides, hundreds of Palestinians have perished because Israel would not allow them to access medical care or medicine. I saw many Palestinians die an agonizing death because the “light upon the nations” wouldn’t allow them to reach hospital a few blocks away. In short, we are talking about a Judeo-Nazi state. I am saying this because when Jews think, behave and act like Nazis, they become Nazis. We must call the spade a spade, especially when it happens to be in the hands of our gravediggers.

Therefore, it is a big lie to call this war a war against Hamas. This is a Nazi-like war of extermination against the people of Palestine.

If the war were against Hamas, as the war criminals of Tel Aviv keep claiming, Israel wouldn’t have targeted market places, drug stores, college buildings, private homes, mosques, cultural institutions, roads, businesses, etc.
Only a state with a Hitlerian mindset would target an entire society and then claim that it is fighting Hamas! It is simply a big lie.

So, Israel is simply carrying out a real genocide…and an indiscriminate one for that matter.

Today, even a Jewish rabbi of imminence used the term “genocide” to describe what Israel is doing in Gaza.”

See also Amira Hass’s article in the Ha’aretz newspaper “Israel’s war is not against Hamas, it’s against all the Palestinians

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2008/12/30/my-brief-response-to-zioni st-disinformation/

[paul wright]

It's not difficult Changeling. The Israeli state is behaving much way the same as the German Nazi state. They may have their Star of David/Seal of Soloman rather than the reversed swastika
Same practice, same genocide, same racism, no gas chambers rather starvation and bombings A despicable war criminal regime. A Massive concentration camp created in Gaza
I fully appreciate the irony
The same thing operating in Iraq and Afghanistan

[Changeling9au]

Paul Wright has failed to provide a scrap of evidence to back up his claims - just more of the same style of assertions. Not at all unlike those who say "Osama did 9/11, and no I'm not interested in backing up this claim".

[paul wright]

Thanks for providing me with the Palestine clip which seems to mostly consist of the title screen
I've recently become kind of pessimistic and angry
But still realise the humour there
Happy New 2009 - it's bound to be a shi*tt*y one

[kbo234]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5404545 .ece

Here, quite clearly, is where we stand......WITH THE MURDERING BOMBERS

Britain and US refuse to demand end to Israeli airstrikes on Gaza

Nicola Smith

Britain and the United States were on a collision course with their European allies last night after refusing to call for an end to Israeli airstrikes on Hamas targets in Gaza.

The wave of attacks marked a violent end to President George W Bush’s sporadic Middle East peace efforts. The White House put the blame squarely on Hamas, which it considers a terrorist organisation, for provoking the Israeli blitz.

Britain echoed the call for “militants” to stop firing rockets into Israel while calling for “maximum restraint” to avoid casualties.

The response was in sharp contrast to demands by the European Union for an “immediate ceasefire” and criticism by France of the use of “disproportionate force”.

“Hamas’s continued rocket attacks into Israel must cease if the violence is to stop,” said Gordon Johndroe, the White House spokesman, in Texas where Bush is spending the holidays at his Crawford ranch.

Britain declined to condemn Israel for the onslaught and called for an end to rocket attacks by militants.

Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, blamed Hamas for the raid. “The United States strongly condemns the repeated rocket and mortar attacks against Israel and holds Hamas responsible for breaking the ceasefire and for the renewal of violence in Gaza,” she said.

Gordon Brown, the prime minister, said: “I am deeply concerned by continuing missile strikes from Gaza on Israel and by Israel’s response today.

“Peaceful means are the only way of reaching a lasting solution to the situation in Gaza. I call on Gazan militants to cease all rocket attacks on Israel immediately. These attacks are designed to cause random destruction and to undermine the prospects of peace talks led by President Abbas.”

Brown added: “I understand the Israeli government’s sense of obligation to its population. Israel needs to meet its humanitarian obligations, act in a way to further the long-term vision of a two-state solution and do everything in its power to avoid civilian casualties.”

The muted response of Britain and America was in sharp contrast to the statement issued on behalf of Javier Solana, the European Union’s foreign policy chief, who called for an immediate ceasefire and the renewal of the truce declared by Hamas leaders, which had expired on December 19.

“I call for an immediate cessation of military actions on both sides,” he said.

“The EU has repeatedly condemned rocket attacks against Israel. The current Israeli strikes are inflicting an unacceptable toll on Palestinian civilians and will only worsen the humanitarian crisis.”

The French presidency of the EU issued a statement on behalf of the 27-nation bloc, condemning both sides. “The EU condemns the Israeli bombardments as well as rocket attacks from Gaza. It demands that this stops immediately,” it said.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the French president, also went further than Britain and America in condemning the use of “disproportionate” force.

In a statement from Paris he said that he “strongly condemns the irresponsible provocations which led to this situation as well as the disproportionate use of force”. The statement added that he “deplores the heavy civilian losses and expresses his condolence to the innocent victims and their families”.

The EU’s criticism of Israel’s actions was echoed by Ban Ki-moon, the United Nations secretary-general, who said he was “deeply alarmed” and appealed for “an immediate halt to all violence”.

Israeli leaders have stepped up their rhetoric against Hamas in recent days, leaving no doubt about their intentions. Gabi Ashkenazi, chief of staff of the Israeli defence forces, said on Thursday: “We will need to use our full force to hit the terrorist infrastructure.”

[kbo234]

So What Have The Palestinians Got To Complain About?

To portray this as a conflict between equals requires some imagination

By Mark Steel:

January 01, 2009 "The Independent" --- When you read the statements from Israeli and US politicians, and try to match them with the pictures of devastation, there seems to be only one explanation. They must have one of those conditions, called something like "Visual Carnage Responsibility Back To Front Upside Down Massacre Disorder".

For example, Condoleezza Rice, having observed that more than 300 Gazans were dead, said: "We are deeply concerned about the escalating violence. We strongly condemn the attacks on Israel and hold Hamas responsible."

Someone should ask her to comment on teenage knife-crime, to see if she'd say: "I strongly condemn the people who've been stabbed, and until they abandon their practice of wandering around clutching their sides and bleeding, there is no hope for peace."

The Israeli government suffers terribly from this confusion. They probably have adverts on Israeli television in which a man falls off a ladder and screams, "Eeeeugh", then a voice says, "Have you caused an accident at work in the last 12 months?" and the bloke who pushed him gets £3,000.

The gap between the might of Israel's F-16 bombers and Apache helicopters, and the Palestinians' catapulty thing is so ridiculous that to try and portray the situation as between two equal sides requires the imagination of a children's story writer.

The reporter on News at Ten said the rockets "may be ineffective, but they ARE symbolic." So they might not have weapons but they have got symbolism, the canny brutes.

It's no wonder the Israeli Air Force had to demolish a few housing estates, otherwise Hamas might have tried to mock Israel through a performance of expressive dance.

The rockets may be unable to to kill on the scale of the Israeli Air Force, said one spokesman, but they are "intended to kill".

Maybe he went on: "And we have evidence that Hamas supporters have dreams, and that in these dreams bad things happen to Israeli citizens, they burst, or turn into cactus, or run through Woolworths naked, so it's not important whether it can happen, what matters is that they WANT it to happen, so we blew up their university."

Or there's the outrage that Hamas has been supported by Iran. Well that's just breaking the rules. Because say what you will about the Israelis, they get no arms supplies or funding or political support from a country that's more powerful than them, they just go their own way and make all their weapons in an arts and crafts workshop in Jerusalem.

But mostly the Israelis justify themselves with a disappointing lack of imagination, such as the line that they had to destroy an ambulance because Hamas cynically put their weapons inside ambulances.

They should be more creative, and say Hamas were planning to aim the flashing blue light at Israeli epileptics in an attempt to make them go into a fit, get dizzy and wander off into Syria where they would be captured.

But they prefer a direct approach, such as the statement from Ofer Schmerling, an Israeli Civil Defence official who said on al-Jazeera, "I shall play music and celebrate what the Israeli Air Force is doing."

Maybe they could turn it into a huge nationalfestival, with decorations and mince pies and shops playing "I Wish We Could Bomb Gaza Every Day".

In a similar tone Dov Weisglas, Ariel Sharon's chief of staff, referred to the siege of Gaza that preceded this bombing, a siege in which the Israelis prevented the population from receiving essential supplies of food, medicine, electricity and water, by saying, "We put them on a diet."

It's the arrogance of the East End gangster, so it wouldn't be out of character if the Israeli Prime Minister's press conference began: "Oh dear or dear. It looks like those Palestinians have had a little, er, accident. All their buildings have been knocked down – they want to be more careful, hee hee."

And almost certainly one of the reasons this is happening now is because the government wants to appear hard as it wants to win an election. Maybe with typical Israeli frankness they'll show a party political broadcast in which Ehud Olmert says, "This is why I think you should vote for me", then shows film of Gaza and yells: "Wa-hey, that bloke in the corner is on FIRE."

And Condoleezza Rice and her colleagues, and the specially appointed Middle East Peace Envoy, could then all shake their heads and say: "Disgraceful. The way he's flapping around like that could cause someone to have a nasty accident."

[paul wright]